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Isaiah Brown, 32, Shot by Sheriff's Deputy After Calling 911

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Isaiah Brown, 32, Shot by Sheriff's Deputy After Calling 911

Postby Countesia » Sat Apr 24, 2021 7:30 am



Me no likey long string of words, me want tl;dr

Okay, so i've read a few articles so far. Details are thin. But from what i've gathered, is that Isiah Brown, a 32 year old home health care aide, asked a police officer for a ride home from a gas station due to a broken down car. Sheriff obliges and drops him home. Wholesome story, right?

Fuck no. Isaiah Brown called 911 A few minutes after this encounter to once again ask for a ride back to his car in case it gets towed.

For some reason, the dispatcher logged it as a domestic abuse call even though no such incident has or was occuring. Not even his family understands why.

The VERY SAME deputy returns to the property no less than ten minutes after leaving, and proceeds to shoot Isaiah Brown 10 times in the face, neck, chest and pelvic area. Isaiah was unarmed. That much has been confirmed by police.


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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sat Apr 24, 2021 7:32 am

I don't understand why this happened. The same deputy gave him a ride home.
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Postby Adamede » Sat Apr 24, 2021 7:32 am

All the hate police have earned they brought upon themselves.
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Postby Countesia » Sat Apr 24, 2021 7:33 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:I don't understand why this happened. The same deputy gave him a ride home.


As the OP i wanna stay impartial but honestly, i can't fathom the lack of common sense here. Surely you'd be giving the benefit of the doubt to a guy who just asked you for a ride home. The same guy you trusted enough to let in your car?

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Apr 24, 2021 7:33 am

We talked about this in the police thread a bit and it's really baffling. Like, what on earth could have prompted this? Apparently they have body cam footage but aren't releasing it which, to me, says it's really bad and indefensible.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sat Apr 24, 2021 7:35 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:We talked about this in the police thread a bit and it's really baffling. Like, what on earth could have prompted this? Apparently they have body cam footage but aren't releasing it which, to me, says it's really bad and indefensible.


It doesn't even make sense. Why would the deputy who gave him a ride home show up again and shoot him 10 times?
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Postby Countesia » Sat Apr 24, 2021 7:36 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:We talked about this in the police thread a bit and it's really baffling. Like, what on earth could have prompted this? Apparently they have body cam footage but aren't releasing it which, to me, says it's really bad and indefensible.


Wait for the "back the blue" crowd to accuse him of being a drug kingpin or a gangbanger

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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Sat Apr 24, 2021 7:36 am

Seems a bit odd expecting the police to ferry you about like a cab service.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sat Apr 24, 2021 7:36 am

Countesia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:We talked about this in the police thread a bit and it's really baffling. Like, what on earth could have prompted this? Apparently they have body cam footage but aren't releasing it which, to me, says it's really bad and indefensible.


Wait for the "back the blue" crowd to accuse him of being a drug kingpin or a gangbanger


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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Apr 24, 2021 7:38 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Seems a bit odd expecting the police to ferry you about like a cab service.


It's actually fairly normal in a lot of places if you have a breakdown or something, if a cop comes by they'll usually offer to help. I've even had that happen before, only difference is they usually don't come back and shoot you.
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Postby -Astoria- » Sat Apr 24, 2021 7:39 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Seems a bit odd expecting the police to ferry you about like a cab service.

I mean, there's that, too, but you don't generally expect that same person who transported you to end up peppering holes in your face.
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Postby Countesia » Sat Apr 24, 2021 7:39 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Seems a bit odd expecting the police to ferry you about like a cab service.


I don't know about the US, but in the UK its fairly common to be able to ask a police officer for a ride. As long as you're not literally using them as a cab service, and have some genuine reason as to why you're asking, 9/10 times they'll agree to it. They're civil servants, after all.

I think the call asking for a ride back to the car was overstepping a bit, but did that warrant getting gunned down though?

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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Sat Apr 24, 2021 7:54 am

Countesia wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Seems a bit odd expecting the police to ferry you about like a cab service.


I don't know about the US, but in the UK its fairly common to be able to ask a police officer for a ride. As long as you're not literally using them as a cab service, and have some genuine reason as to why you're asking, 9/10 times they'll agree to it. They're civil servants, after all.

I think the call asking for a ride back to the car was overstepping a bit, but did that warrant getting gunned down though?


Hell no. To me the US police seem in need of massive reform.
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Postby Caedmare » Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:00 am

We need a massive change for this crap to stop. This is uncalled for. It was out of hand years ago.

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:44 am

This is why I do not feel safe when I see police. You could literally be injured or killed for the dumbest reason.
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Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:56 am

Is there something the police are withholding about what happened between A (his asking for a ride) to B(shooting him ten times)? Because there is no way it could go from A to B without reason unless the cop was genuinely batsh*t. Something is being kept from the public, methinks.

Still, shooting someone ten times is freaking excessive.
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Postby Israeli Defense Force » Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:18 am

Countesia wrote:
Your thoughts, NS?


We require additional information and the bodycam footage to really come to informed conclusions.

Probably haven't gotten the whole story yet, so it's pointless to jump to conclusions over the motivations of the officer or Brown yet.

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Postby Andsed » Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:22 am

When the body cam footage is released I might change my mind, but I'm honestly just assuming the worst of the officer here. Not much I can even fathom for what might make this justifed.
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Postby Page » Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:12 am

I think had Chauvin been acquitted with all these shootings happening in just a few days, this one would have probably been the straw that broke the camel's back, and we would be seeing unprecedented wrath right now.

But the sheer rate of these killings may make it such that even cops being convicted from time to time won't stop uprisings.

The Democrats think Chauvin in jail will put the movement against police brutality to bed, but they're soon going to find out just how wrong they are.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:14 am

Normally I'd be mad but I'm too confused as to how this fucking happened in the first place because nothing about this story makes any sense.
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Postby Saiwania » Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:24 am

It might be the case that this police department is just as perplexed as we are about the situation. Something happened or he acted far outside of any norms. Maybe he's known as competent but on this one occasion, went bezerk and even coworkers or superiors know they might have to turn against him but are reluctant to do so right away. To cover for him or not?
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Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Normally I'd be mad but I'm too confused as to how this fucking happened in the first place because nothing about this story makes any sense.


If it's not a case of foul play, then it's probably the usual suspect: Cops instinctively pulling their guns and emptying their chambers in response to any kind of stress, surprise, or confusion.

And this problem is itself the result of the pervasive mentality among police that they are like an occupying army and any civilian they come across is a potential insurgent.
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Postby Major-Tom » Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:24 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Seems a bit odd expecting the police to ferry you about like a cab service.


I've done it before. Got stuck driving through a blizzard en route to my apartment on one of my state's notoriously dangerous, mountainous freeways. Pulled over, threw my hazards on, and initially phoned Triple A. They couldn't help, so I called 911 and had highway patrol take me the rest of the way.

It happens, is what I'm saying. I also didn't get mag dumped on by the cop, as is expected when you call a cop for help. This is one messed up case so far.
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Postby Cetacea » Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:32 am

Show me your hands,” he shouted. “Show me your hands. Show me your hands, now. Show me your hands. Drop the gun. He’s got a gun to his head. Drop the gun now. Stop walking towards me. Stop walking towards me. Stop. Stop.”

Seriously? Why shoot a man who you think has a gun to his own head? (Even if you cant see that its a phone)

US Police need some serious training for the benefit of everyones mental health

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Postby Countesia » Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:37 am

Cetacea wrote:Show me your hands,” he shouted. “Show me your hands. Show me your hands, now. Show me your hands. Drop the gun. He’s got a gun to his head. Drop the gun now. Stop walking towards me. Stop walking towards me. Stop. Stop.”

Seriously? Why shoot a man who you think has a gun to his own head? (Even if you cant see that its a phone)

US Police need some serious training for the benefit of everyones mental health


Funnily enough I've just finished reading the transcripts of the bodycam.

How do you confuse a gun for a phone? Dude must of been carrying something straight out of the 80's if the cop thought the phone was chunky enough to be any kind of pistol

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