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2021 Syrian Presidential Elections

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Q1- How will the elections go | Q2- In your opinion. How will the War be in the future

Q1- It will be fair.
10
6%
Q1- It will be corrupt and unfair.
49
31%
Q1- There will be no elections. Its just an illusion
22
14%
Q2- The war will end in a matter of a few months. Its dying.
7
4%
Q2- The war will continue for many more years and many more will die.
22
14%
Q2- The war is already basically over. Assad won. Just admit it.
41
26%
Q2- I dont know.
3
2%
Q2- I dont even want to think about it.
3
2%
 
Total votes : 157

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2021 Syrian Presidential Elections

Postby Dowaesk » Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:24 am

Syria is a nation that is in chaos. Ever since the uprising in 2010 against the Assad Regime and the rise of ISIS. Hundreds of thousands have died in this seemingly never ending conflict. The conflict has cooled down in the recent years. Although its scars still remain. Assad is still in power and the threat from Daesh still exists. Millions have been left displaced and homeless.

Assad has promised presidential election scheduled for 26 April 2021. A move likely to keep Assad in power. The last elections took place in 2014, which was largely dismissed as unfair and undemocratic. This election saw Assad win with 92% of the votes. And now we got this new election. Also expected to be unfair. Syria's future remains dark. 500,000 already dead, but more in queue.
Heres some reference links for those who are unfamiliar with the upcoming elections.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-56791930.amp
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2021/4/21/syrian-presidential-elections-neither-free-nor-fair-activists&ved=2ahUKEwi1weKMrJLwAhWKXisKHTXJA2sQ0PADegQIFhAB&usg=AOvVaw1CPhIVAcZM5k2mtqQe4EFI&ampcf=1
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2021/4/21/syrian-president-assad-to-run-for-re-election-in-may-state-media&ved=2ahUKEwi1weKMrJLwAhWKXisKHTXJA2sQ0PADegQIIhAB&usg=AOvVaw3PQvRjdsITKTNoSJWA8C2d&ampcf=1

Now, no one knows what the future holds. Here I simply ask for personal views and predictions.
1-Is this a step towards political freedom, the same thing that led to the civil war. Or will this election be just like the 2014 elections?

2-Is Assad a good leader. Can he learn from his mistakes and rebuild Syria?

3-Will the civil war continue for many more years, or is it in its last breaths?

4-Should the countries continue their disputes with Assad Syria and lose more lives or should they look for more peaceful options?

(In the above poll. Please choose 1 option from Q1 and 1 option from Q2)
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Postby Islamic Holy Sites » Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:28 am

Dowaesk wrote:Syria is a nation that is in chaos. Ever since the uprising in 2010 against the Assad Regime and the rise of ISIS. Hundreds of thousands have died in this seemingly never ending conflict. The conflict has cooled down in the recent years. Although its scars still remain. Assad is still in power and the threat from Daesh still exists. Millions have been left displaced and homeless.

Assad has promised presidential election scheduled for 26 April 2021. A move likely to keep Assad in power. The last elections took place in 2014, which was largely dismissed as unfair and undemocratic. This election saw Assad win with 92% of the votes. And now we got this new election. Also expected to be unfair. Syria's future remains dark. 500,000 already dead, but more in queue.
Heres some reference links for those who are unfamiliar with the upcoming elections.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-56791930.amp
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2021/4/21/syrian-presidential-elections-neither-free-nor-fair-activists&ved=2ahUKEwi1weKMrJLwAhWKXisKHTXJA2sQ0PADegQIFhAB&usg=AOvVaw1CPhIVAcZM5k2mtqQe4EFI&ampcf=1
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2021/4/21/syrian-president-assad-to-run-for-re-election-in-may-state-media&ved=2ahUKEwi1weKMrJLwAhWKXisKHTXJA2sQ0PADegQIIhAB&usg=AOvVaw3PQvRjdsITKTNoSJWA8C2d&ampcf=1

Now, no one knows what the future holds. Here I simply ask for personal views and predictions.
1-Is this a step towards political freedom, the same thing that led to the civil war. Or will this election be just like the 2014 elections?

2-Is Assad a good leader. Can he learn from his mistakes and rebuild Syria?

3-Will the civil war continue for many more years, or is it in its last breaths?

4-Should the countries continue their disputes with Assad Syria and lose more lives or should they look for more peaceful options?

(In the above poll. Please choose 1 option from Q1 and 1 option from Q2)

1. No.
2. Good leader no, rebuild Syria yes, learn from his mistakes depends.
3. It'll continue.
4. Peace.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:32 am

Hah, an election in Syria. That's funny.

Also he won the war, its largely over.
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Postby Dowaesk » Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:38 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Hah, an election in Syria. That's funny.

Also he won the war, its largely over.

Talking about Syria just gives me goosebumps. All the death and chaos. All those children. All those of whom lost their loved ones. All those who had lost their homes.
In my personal opinion Bashar Al-Assad is a terrible leader. Many more will die. Many more will suffer. It will take a coup. Or another civil war if they are to establish a "not-corrupt" government. Unless Assad does the sensible thing and step down or maybe have a fair election and step down while he's got his dignity.
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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:41 am

Social democracy and parliamentarism must be brought to the Arab Socialist Ba'ath Party.Neighboring countries should apologize to Syria. a zero problems policy should be initiated. All kinds of terrorist militants must be punished in international courts.

Q1 It will be corrupt and unfair.
Q2 The war is already basically over. Assad won.
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Postby Dowaesk » Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:47 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Social democracy and parliamentarism must be brought to the Arab Socialist Ba'ath Party.Neighboring countries should apologize to Syria. a zero problems policy should be initiated. All kinds of terrorist militants must be punished in international courts.

Theres no need for apologies. Assad was at fault. It his clamping down in freedom of speech that led to this.
Neighbouring nations can simply begin negotiations without apologies. Apologies are unnecessary. If this is in fact the end of the war, then Assad must apologise to his nation and people and must try to rebuild. As for the Turkish Safe Zone in Syria. The territory should belong to Turkey until deals are made and its becomes safe to pull out from Syria.
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Postby -Ocelot- » Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:57 am

Dowaesk wrote:1-Is this a step towards political freedom, the same thing that led to the civil war. Or will this election be just like the 2014 elections?

2-Is Assad a good leader. Can he learn from his mistakes and rebuild Syria?

3-Will the civil war continue for many more years, or is it in its last breaths?

4-Should the countries continue their disputes with Assad Syria and lose more lives or should they look for more peaceful options?

(In the above poll. Please choose 1 option from Q1 and 1 option from Q2)


1. No fair elections can take place.

2. No, he is a dictator who used chemical weapons on his own people and has no qualms about killing his own to stay in power. He is destined to rule over ruins, inflame the current situation, and basically be Russia's loyal dog for the rest of his life.

3. Conflict will continue, although it's now clear that Assad will remain in power.

4. Assad should be removed from power.

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Postby Mahdiyya Caliphate » Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:04 am

-Ocelot- wrote:
Dowaesk wrote:1-Is this a step towards political freedom, the same thing that led to the civil war. Or will this election be just like the 2014 elections?

2-Is Assad a good leader. Can he learn from his mistakes and rebuild Syria?

3-Will the civil war continue for many more years, or is it in its last breaths?

4-Should the countries continue their disputes with Assad Syria and lose more lives or should they look for more peaceful options?

(In the above poll. Please choose 1 option from Q1 and 1 option from Q2)


1. No fair elections can take place.

2. No, he is a dictator who used chemical weapons on his own people and has no qualms about killing his own to stay in power. He is destined to rule over ruins, inflame the current situation, and basically be Russia's loyal dog for the rest of his life.

3. Conflict will continue, although it's now clear that Assad will remain in power.

4. Assad should be removed from power

That will be very dangerous and will result in many more deaths. I myself, as much as I hate Assad, dont think its worth the fight. It is very likely that people will suffer under Assad, but they would suffer even more if they were to go through another conflict. I just cant bear the idea of more lives being destroyed. Hence, I, sad as it might be, support for peace and cooperation between Assad and the neighbouring nations.
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Postby Nakena » Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:05 am

tbh the time window for the removal of the Assad Regime is long over. if there was ever a chance it would have been prior to the russian intervention. that ship sailed long time ago.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:06 am

Assad has long since won and the Ba'ath Party will continue to hold onto power, elections or not.
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Postby Elvato » Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:07 am

now is a bad time for elections
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Postby Nakena » Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:10 am

Elvato wrote:now is a bad time for elections


He will get 98,7% or so anyways.
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Postby Rusozak » Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:11 am

Gee, I wonder who's gonna win. Assad with 105% of the vote?
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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:11 am

Dowaesk wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Social democracy and parliamentarism must be brought to the Arab Socialist Ba'ath Party.Neighboring countries should apologize to Syria. a zero problems policy should be initiated. All kinds of terrorist militants must be punished in international courts.

Theres no need for apologies. Assad was at fault. It his clamping down in freedom of speech that led to this.
Neighbouring nations can simply begin negotiations without apologies. Apologies are unnecessary. If this is in fact the end of the war, then Assad must apologise to his nation and people and must try to rebuild. As for the Turkish Safe Zone in Syria. The territory should belong to Turkey until deals are made and its becomes safe to pull out from Syria.
Turkey and the US, is among the first countries should apologize from Syria. The fight against terrorism cannot be solved by helping terrorism. Instead of supporting Syrian militant terrorists, they should have helped our Turkmen brothers who were killed in Syria.Political Islamists did not give half of their support to terrorism to the Turkish nation.
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Postby Nakena » Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:17 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Dowaesk wrote:Theres no need for apologies. Assad was at fault. It his clamping down in freedom of speech that led to this.
Neighbouring nations can simply begin negotiations without apologies. Apologies are unnecessary. If this is in fact the end of the war, then Assad must apologise to his nation and people and must try to rebuild. As for the Turkish Safe Zone in Syria. The territory should belong to Turkey until deals are made and its becomes safe to pull out from Syria.
Turkey and the US, is among the first countries should apologize from Syria. The fight against terrorism cannot be solved by helping terrorism. Instead of supporting Syrian militant terrorists, they should have helped our Turkmen brothers who were killed in Syria.Political Islamists did not give half of their support to terrorism to the Turkish nation.


Turkey should have invaded Syria after the 2012 phantom incident and subsequent clashes. Like full scale invasion and march up to Damascus. People would have greeted the TSK as liberators.
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Postby Kowani » Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:20 am

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Postby Dowaesk » Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:22 am

Rusozak wrote:Gee, I wonder who's gonna win. Assad with 105% of the vote?

105% is too less.
I'd go for something like 185%
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Postby Dowaesk » Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:26 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Dowaesk wrote:Theres no need for apologies. Assad was at fault. It his clamping down in freedom of speech that led to this.
Neighbouring nations can simply begin negotiations without apologies. Apologies are unnecessary. If this is in fact the end of the war, then Assad must apologise to his nation and people and must try to rebuild. As for the Turkish Safe Zone in Syria. The territory should belong to Turkey until deals are made and its becomes safe to pull out from Syria.
Turkey and the US, is among the first countries should apologize from Syria. The fight against terrorism cannot be solved by helping terrorism. Instead of supporting Syrian militant terrorists, they should have helped our Turkmen brothers who were killed in Syria.Political Islamists did not give half of their support to terrorism to the Turkish nation.

What. No. Turkey and US are the nations that have progressed the most from among Assad's enemies. If they give in, what did their soldiers die for. Turkey must not pull out unless it has been reassured that the Turkish Safe Zone remains a Safe Zone and a free area for refugees and people who dont want extra problems. The US must also stay stationed in Syria until Syria stabilizes.
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Postby Glorious Hong Kong » Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:27 am

Dowaesk wrote:Syria is a nation that is in chaos. Ever since the uprising in 2010 against the Assad Regime and the rise of ISIS. Hundreds of thousands have died in this seemingly never ending conflict. The conflict has cooled down in the recent years. Although its scars still remain. Assad is still in power and the threat from Daesh still exists. Millions have been left displaced and homeless.

Assad has promised presidential election scheduled for 26 April 2021. A move likely to keep Assad in power. The last elections took place in 2014, which was largely dismissed as unfair and undemocratic. This election saw Assad win with 92% of the votes. And now we got this new election. Also expected to be unfair. Syria's future remains dark. 500,000 already dead, but more in queue.
Heres some reference links for those who are unfamiliar with the upcoming elections.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-56791930.amp
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2021/4/21/syrian-presidential-elections-neither-free-nor-fair-activists&ved=2ahUKEwi1weKMrJLwAhWKXisKHTXJA2sQ0PADegQIFhAB&usg=AOvVaw1CPhIVAcZM5k2mtqQe4EFI&ampcf=1
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2021/4/21/syrian-president-assad-to-run-for-re-election-in-may-state-media&ved=2ahUKEwi1weKMrJLwAhWKXisKHTXJA2sQ0PADegQIIhAB&usg=AOvVaw3PQvRjdsITKTNoSJWA8C2d&ampcf=1

Now, no one knows what the future holds. Here I simply ask for personal views and predictions.
1-Is this a step towards political freedom, the same thing that led to the civil war. Or will this election be just like the 2014 elections?

2-Is Assad a good leader. Can he learn from his mistakes and rebuild Syria?

3-Will the civil war continue for many more years, or is it in its last breaths?

4-Should the countries continue their disputes with Assad Syria and lose more lives or should they look for more peaceful options?

(In the above poll. Please choose 1 option from Q1 and 1 option from Q2)


1. Another fake election in another fake democracy. Yay.

2. Assad is beyond redemption and has been beyond redemption since 2011. He's an absolute, mass-murdering, fucking monster. "Rebuild Syria". You mean like how the CCP intends to "rebuild Taiwan" once it seizes control?

3. I don't even want to think about it. It's absolutely sickening to think about.

4. Ditto 3.
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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:39 am

Nakena wrote:
Elvato wrote:now is a bad time for elections


He will get 98,7% or so anyways.
Justice cannot be mentioned in an election where there is a candidate receiving 80% or more votes. just like the 1991 Nagorno-Karabakh so-called independence referendum.

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Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Turkey and the US, is among the first countries should apologize from Syria. The fight against terrorism cannot be solved by helping terrorism. Instead of supporting Syrian militant terrorists, they should have helped our Turkmen brothers who were killed in Syria.Political Islamists did not give half of their support to terrorism to the Turkish nation.

What. No. Turkey and US are the nations that have progressed the most from among Assad's enemies. If they give in, what did their soldiers die for. Turkey must not pull out unless it has been reassured that the Turkish Safe Zone remains a Safe Zone and a free area for refugees and people who dont want extra problems. The US must also stay stationed in Syria until Syria stabilizes.
Are you aware of refugees in Greece and Turkey? Political Islamists should apologize not only to the Syrian but also to the Turkish nation. The blood of the Turkish soldier is in the hands of political Islamists. Our war should have been with terrorism, not with Syria. The Syrian army and the Turkish army must pull the Syrian Turkmen Brigades to their side and fight a real fight against terrorism. You have made your side clear by asking the US government to be in Syria.
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Postby Nakena » Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:43 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Justice cannot be mentioned in an election where there is a candidate receiving 80% or more votes. just like the 1991 Nagorno-Karabakh so-called independence referendum.


Yeah lets keep that stuff out here, shall we?
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Postby Islamic Holy Sites » Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:46 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Nakena wrote:
He will get 98,7% or so anyways.
Justice cannot be mentioned in an election where there is a candidate receiving 80% or more votes. just like the 1991 Nagorno-Karabakh so-called independence referendum.

Dowaesk wrote:What. No. Turkey and US are the nations that have progressed the most from among Assad's enemies. If they give in, what did their soldiers die for. Turkey must not pull out unless it has been reassured that the Turkish Safe Zone remains a Safe Zone and a free area for refugees and people who dont want extra problems. The US must also stay stationed in Syria until Syria stabilizes.
Are you aware of refugees in Greece and Turkey? Political Islamists should apologize not only to the Syrian but also to the Turkish nation. The blood of the Turkish soldier is in the hands of political Islamists. Our war should have been with terrorism, not with Syria. The Syrian army and the Turkish army must pull the Syrian Turkmen Brigades to their side and fight a real fight against terrorism. You have made your side clear by asking the US government to be in Syria.

You are saying that the Myanmar president's (now under house arrest) victory of over 80% wasn't actually real, it was faked?
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Postby Dowaesk » Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:48 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Nakena wrote:
He will get 98,7% or so anyways.
Justice cannot be mentioned in an election where there is a candidate receiving 80% or more votes. just like the 1991 Nagorno-Karabakh so-called independence referendum.

Dowaesk wrote:What. No. Turkey and US are the nations that have progressed the most from among Assad's enemies. If they give in, what did their soldiers die for. Turkey must not pull out unless it has been reassured that the Turkish Safe Zone remains a Safe Zone and a free area for refugees and people who dont want extra problems. The US must also stay stationed in Syria until Syria stabilizes.
Are you aware of refugees in Greece and Turkey? Political Islamists should apologize not only to the Syrian but also to the Turkish nation. The blood of the Turkish soldier is in the hands of political Islamists. Our war should have been with terrorism, not with Syria. The Syrian army and the Turkish army must pull the Syrian Turkmen Brigades to their side and fight a real fight against terrorism. You have made your side clear by asking the US government to be in Syria.

Why bow down to Assad when you can simply go ahead with negotiations without the extra drama. I myself am a strong supporter of Syrian Turkmen, but apologising? What for? And also Political Islamists is irrevelant here as of right now.
Refugees in Greece? There are refugees everywhere. Why did you have the feeling to mention that. We are talking about Turkey's participation here. No need to bring in Greece.
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The Greater Ohio Valley
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:48 am

“Elections”
Fly me the moon on an irradiated manhole cover.
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- Free speech
- Weapons rights
- Democracy
- LGBTQ+ rights
- Racial equality
- Gender/sexual equality
- Voting rights
- Universal healthcare
- Workers rights
- Drug decriminalization
- Cannabis legalization
- Due process
- Rehabilitative justice
- Religious freedom
- Choice
- Environmental protections
- Secularism
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- Fascism/Nazism
- Conservatism
- Nationalism
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- Traditionalism
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- Racism
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Islamic Holy Sites » Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:52 am

Dowaesk wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Justice cannot be mentioned in an election where there is a candidate receiving 80% or more votes. just like the 1991 Nagorno-Karabakh so-called independence referendum.

Are you aware of refugees in Greece and Turkey? Political Islamists should apologize not only to the Syrian but also to the Turkish nation. The blood of the Turkish soldier is in the hands of political Islamists. Our war should have been with terrorism, not with Syria. The Syrian army and the Turkish army must pull the Syrian Turkmen Brigades to their side and fight a real fight against terrorism. You have made your side clear by asking the US government to be in Syria.

Why bow down to Assad when you can simply go ahead with negotiations without the extra drama. I myself am a strong supporter of Syrian Turkmen, but apologising? What for? And also Political Islamists is irrevelant here as of right now.
Refugees in Greece? There are refugees everywhere. Why did you have the feeling to mention that. We are talking about Turkey's participation here. No need to bring in Greece.

I don't understand what he's got in for political Islamists. Turkey and ISIS are best of friends, and the rebels in Syria aren't Islamist, so he's not making sense if he means refugees from ISIS's and the FSA's actions.
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