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Nova Catania
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Old sign-up thread, link to new thread inside

Postby Nova Catania » Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:00 am

Here's the link to the new thread: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=504167
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Postby Nova Catania » Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:25 am

Ok, seriously, why is no-one signing up?

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Postby The Allied Tribe » Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:27 am

Nova Catania wrote:Ok, seriously, why is no-one signing up?


Because it's a ripoff of almost every other alliance (military or not) recently created. I suggest you close this and just join other alliances.
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Nova Catania
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Postby Nova Catania » Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:29 am

The Allied Tribe wrote:
Nova Catania wrote:Ok, seriously, why is no-one signing up?


Because it's a ripoff of almost every other alliance (military or not) recently created. I suggest you close this and just join other alliances.

First of all, it's a region, and second of all, thank you for at least posting something, in this otherwise comment barren thread.

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Postby Islamic Holy Sites » Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:29 am

Nova Catania wrote:Ok, seriously, why is no-one signing up?

I have no idea, and I'm not because I'm part of many organisations, and it's complicated enough.
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Postby The Allied Tribe » Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:33 am

Nova Catania wrote:
The Allied Tribe wrote:
Because it's a ripoff of almost every other alliance (military or not) recently created. I suggest you close this and just join other alliances.

First of all, it's a region, and second of all, thank you for at least posting something, in this otherwise comment barren thread.


I see. Still, I don't think other nations would want to join this alliance, since it's pretty similar to non-regional alliances, and you have to join a region.

Also, maybe this should go in Gameplay if it's a region?
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Postby Islamic Holy Sites » Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:35 am

The Allied Tribe wrote:
Nova Catania wrote:First of all, it's a region, and second of all, thank you for at least posting something, in this otherwise comment barren thread.


I see. Still, I don't think other nations would want to join this alliance, since it's pretty similar to non-regional alliances, and you have to join a region.

Also, maybe this should go in Gameplay if it's a region?

Perhaps, but your explanation doesn't make sense since people joined me and SM's organisation, the IDSF, and it was established a few weeks ago.
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Postby The Allied Tribe » Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:39 am

Islamic Holy Sites wrote:
The Allied Tribe wrote:
I see. Still, I don't think other nations would want to join this alliance, since it's pretty similar to non-regional alliances, and you have to join a region.

Also, maybe this should go in Gameplay if it's a region?

Perhaps, but your explanation doesn't make sense since people joined me and SM's organisation, the IDSF, and it was established a few weeks ago.


Your explanation also doesn't make any sense because the IDSF is not a region, and the IDSF can be seen as a successor to LITA/CATO whereas the UAN does mostly the same things other alliances are supposed to do, and it's also a region.
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Postby Earth Allies » Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:58 am

The Allied Tribe wrote:
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:Perhaps, but your explanation doesn't make sense since people joined me and SM's organisation, the IDSF, and it was established a few weeks ago.


Your explanation also doesn't make any sense because the IDSF is not a region, and the IDSF can be seen as a successor to LITA/CATO whereas the UAN does mostly the same things other alliances are supposed to do, and it's also a region.

What about ICDN or World Defence Alliance?(Just wanting to ask...Don´t ask me about WHO[Whorld Health Organization)
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Postby Islamic Holy Sites » Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:59 am

The Allied Tribe wrote:
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:Perhaps, but your explanation doesn't make sense since people joined me and SM's organisation, the IDSF, and it was established a few weeks ago.


Your explanation also doesn't make any sense because the IDSF is not a region, and the IDSF can be seen as a successor to LITA/CATO whereas the UAN does mostly the same things other alliances are supposed to do, and it's also a region.

Oh. I guess we'll just agree to disagree. Though it does make sense as our ne is less complicated to join.
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Postby Nova Catania » Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:02 am

Islamic Holy Sites wrote:
The Allied Tribe wrote:
Your explanation also doesn't make any sense because the IDSF is not a region, and the IDSF can be seen as a successor to LITA/CATO whereas the UAN does mostly the same things other alliances are supposed to do, and it's also a region.

Oh. I guess we'll just agree to disagree. Though it does make sense as our ne is less complicated to join.

I’ll admit, the application process is a bit stringent, but we just want to make sure who we’re letting in.

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Postby The Allied Tribe » Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:07 am

Earth Allies wrote:
The Allied Tribe wrote:
Your explanation also doesn't make any sense because the IDSF is not a region, and the IDSF can be seen as a successor to LITA/CATO whereas the UAN does mostly the same things other alliances are supposed to do, and it's also a region.

What about ICDN or World Defence Alliance?(Just wanting to ask...Don´t ask me about WHO[Whorld Health Organization)


ICDN is mostly ineffective, with more corruption than even the WA itself. WHO also seems mostly ineffective, and corruption is somewhat common, but not on ICDN/WA level. I haven't checked the WDA recently, so I might do that.
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Nova Catania
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Postby Nova Catania » Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:10 am

Just so everyone knows, the UAN doesn’t micromanage like the WA does with all those ridiculous resolutions, we only make big international policy decisions, diplomacy, war, international trade, and sanctions.

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Postby Islamic Holy Sites » Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:11 am

The Allied Tribe wrote:
Earth Allies wrote:What about ICDN or World Defence Alliance?(Just wanting to ask...Don´t ask me about WHO[Whorld Health Organization)


ICDN is mostly ineffective, with more corruption than even the WA itself. WHO also seems mostly ineffective, and corruption is somewhat common, but not on ICDN/WA level. I haven't checked the WDA recently, so I might do that.

The ICDN is improving, they're considering expelling Ludistan for threats against another nation. Though I may propose something to hep reduce corruption more.
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Postby Romextly » Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:12 am

The Allied Tribe wrote:
Earth Allies wrote:What about ICDN or World Defence Alliance?(Just wanting to ask...Don´t ask me about WHO[Whorld Health Organization)


ICDN is mostly ineffective, with more corruption than even the WA itself. WHO also seems mostly ineffective, and corruption is somewhat common, but not on ICDN/WA level. I haven't checked the WDA recently, so I might do that.

Which is why I am only in one alliance that I usually don't participate in

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Full name of nation: The Northern Free Republic of Severacia
Head of state: TBD
Head of government: TBD
Population (NS population): 12 Million
Government type: (NYT Democracy, etc.): New York Times Democracy
Geographic location: TBD
Are you a member of any other international organizations? (you are allowed to join other organizations): No
How many troops does your military have? TBD
Do you have nuclear weapons? No
How is your economy? Strong
Do you have a free market? Yes
Does your nation hold free elections? Yes
If so, how often? Once every 2-4 years
Do your nation's citizens have basic freedoms?, (free speech, freedom of religion, etc.): Yes
Are you a member of the World Assembly?: No
Do you have any other nations? Yes
Are you a mod? No

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Postby Earth Allies » Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:26 am

The Allied Tribe wrote:
Earth Allies wrote:What about ICDN or World Defence Alliance?(Just wanting to ask...Don´t ask me about WHO[Whorld Health Organization)


ICDN is mostly ineffective, with more corruption than even the WA itself. WHO also seems mostly ineffective, and corruption is somewhat common, but not on ICDN/WA level. I haven't checked the WDA recently, so I might do that.

(The who brings the Indians?) Lol what I have everyone asked about WHO?
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Postby Silvedania » Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:41 am

The Allied Tribe wrote:
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:Perhaps, but your explanation doesn't make sense since people joined me and SM's organisation, the IDSF, and it was established a few weeks ago.


Your explanation also doesn't make any sense because the IDSF is not a region, and the IDSF can be seen as a successor to LITA/CATO whereas the UAN does mostly the same things other alliances are supposed to do, and it's also a region.

LITA still exists, we're just too lazy to do anything.
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Postby Islamic Holy Sites » Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:44 am

Silvedania wrote:
The Allied Tribe wrote:
Your explanation also doesn't make any sense because the IDSF is not a region, and the IDSF can be seen as a successor to LITA/CATO whereas the UAN does mostly the same things other alliances are supposed to do, and it's also a region.

LITA still exists, we're just too lazy to do anything.

I'm personally honoured that the IDSF is considered a successor to LITA by someone, because the last time it was 'rated' it was classified as 'a wolf in sheep's clothing'.
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Postby The Allied Tribe » Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:43 pm

Islamic Holy Sites wrote:
Silvedania wrote:LITA still exists, we're just too lazy to do anything.

I'm personally honoured that the IDSF is considered a successor to LITA by someone, because the last time it was 'rated' it was classified as 'a wolf in sheep's clothing'.


Yeah, I see it that way. IDSF is a successor to LITA (Liberal International Treaty Alliance, before changing "Liberal" to "Leftist" to look better towards communist nations) and CATO (Conservative Alliance Treaty Organization). Both LITA and CATO are successors to SETA (Strategic and Economic Treaty Alliance, now defunct). SETA collapsed because it was a military alliance that had to protect all of its members and had way too many ideologies in it to succeed, which is why I'm worried about the future of the IDSF.
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Postby Earth Allies » Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:46 pm

The Allied Tribe wrote:
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:I'm personally honoured that the IDSF is considered a successor to LITA by someone, because the last time it was 'rated' it was classified as 'a wolf in sheep's clothing'.


Yeah, I see it that way. IDSF is a successor to LITA (Liberal International Treaty Alliance, before changing "Liberal" to "Leftist" to look better towards communist nations) and CATO (Conservative Alliance Treaty Organization). Both LITA and CATO are successors to SETA (Strategic and Economic Treaty Alliance, now defunct). SETA collapsed because it was a military alliance that had to protect all of its members and had way too many ideologies in it to succeed, which is why I'm worried about the future of the IDSF.

And any other alliances?
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Postby Islamic Holy Sites » Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:47 pm

The Allied Tribe wrote:
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:I'm personally honoured that the IDSF is considered a successor to LITA by someone, because the last time it was 'rated' it was classified as 'a wolf in sheep's clothing'.


Yeah, I see it that way. IDSF is a successor to LITA (Liberal International Treaty Alliance, before changing "Liberal" to "Leftist" to look better towards communist nations) and CATO (Conservative Alliance Treaty Organization). Both LITA and CATO are successors to SETA (Strategic and Economic Treaty Alliance, now defunct). SETA collapsed because it was a military alliance that had to protect all of its members and had way too many ideologies in it to succeed, which is why I'm worried about the future of the IDSF.

Oh. There is a new, economic alliance, called SETZA, and I don't think the IDSF will collapse. I vetoed that last time it threatened to happen in our diplomatic loss in the Hun Chu War.
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Postby The Allied Tribe » Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:53 pm

Earth Allies wrote:
The Allied Tribe wrote:
Yeah, I see it that way. IDSF is a successor to LITA (Liberal International Treaty Alliance, before changing "Liberal" to "Leftist" to look better towards communist nations) and CATO (Conservative Alliance Treaty Organization). Both LITA and CATO are successors to SETA (Strategic and Economic Treaty Alliance, now defunct). SETA collapsed because it was a military alliance that had to protect all of its members and had way too many ideologies in it to succeed, which is why I'm worried about the future of the IDSF.

And any other alliances?


The first alliance I can think of is the ISC, which is an alliance for communist nations and parties. Nobody really started making alliances until GRAIL was formed, an anti-communist alliance. GRAIL was doing well until their leader was DOSed, and after that, they never really recovered, even after they were reformed under ZN, and it collapsed after some time. After GRAIL collapsed, SETA was created, and that led to LITA and CATO eventually.

Also, I'm not sure if we can get this back on topic or not.
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Our official name is The Allied Tribe, but we are also called Deetil-Deluai.
Allied Tribe War is over, The Allied Tribe repels an invasion by ZSeparatists |The Allied Tribe officially bans Child Labor, Compulsory Organ Harvesting | The Allied Tribe states that force must be used strictly defensively, begins armed neutrality and cuts aggressive military ties with all nations

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Postby Islamic Holy Sites » Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:02 pm

The Allied Tribe wrote:
Earth Allies wrote:And any other alliances?


The first alliance I can think of is the ISC, which is an alliance for communist nations and parties. Nobody really started making alliances until GRAIL was formed, an anti-communist alliance. GRAIL was doing well until their leader was DOSed, and after that, they never really recovered, even after they were reformed under ZN, and it collapsed after some time. After GRAIL collapsed, SETA was created, and that led to LITA and CATO eventually.

Also, I'm not sure if we can get this back on topic or not.

How about CHALICE?
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Postby The Allied Tribe » Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:07 pm

Islamic Holy Sites wrote:
The Allied Tribe wrote:
The first alliance I can think of is the ISC, which is an alliance for communist nations and parties. Nobody really started making alliances until GRAIL was formed, an anti-communist alliance. GRAIL was doing well until their leader was DOSed, and after that, they never really recovered, even after they were reformed under ZN, and it collapsed after some time. After GRAIL collapsed, SETA was created, and that led to LITA and CATO eventually.

Also, I'm not sure if we can get this back on topic or not.

How about CHALICE?


I don't remember CHALICE that well. They were pretty powerful at one point, but collapsed and were replaced by CHALICE 2, which is in decline.
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Users who have disrespected The Allied Tribe (IC): 9

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Allied Tribe War is over, The Allied Tribe repels an invasion by ZSeparatists |The Allied Tribe officially bans Child Labor, Compulsory Organ Harvesting | The Allied Tribe states that force must be used strictly defensively, begins armed neutrality and cuts aggressive military ties with all nations

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