Russia-Ukraine conflict heating back up?

[Deutsches Arbeiterrepublik]

Anyways, on the topic of the Russia-Ukraine tensions really flaring up, I don't see any major escalation as particularly likely. As aggressive as Russia is, I think their government understands that with their dire economic situations, domestic turmoils, and fragile international relations, another invasion is something that might need to be on the back burner.

Not necessarily. Historically speaking, a war has been good way to get people to rally around the flag and ignore problems at home, provided the cause is a popular one. Perhaps protecting ethnic Russians in Ukraine would fit the bill.

[Willtime]

No one think the east Ukraine is independent ?
Because a part of country cannot just go away and say it is another country——even with other countrys' aid?

[Sungoldy-China]

The U.S. just needs to pay Ukraine.
Ukraine, a country with nothing, is just do someting to get money from his sugar daddy.

[Austreylia]

The conflict is only heating up in the first place due to Ukraine moving troops and equipment into the area.

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

The U.S. just needs to pay Ukraine.
Ukraine, a country with nothing, is just do someting to get money from his sugar daddy.

It is not appropriate to spend money that can be spent on US citizens abroad.Ukraine and Russia should be two sister states and Russia should respect the territorial integrity of Ukraine. Crimean problem should be asked to the people of the Crimea.

[Punished UMN]

No one think the east Ukraine is independent ?
Because a part of country cannot just go away and say it is another country——even with other countrys' aid?

Without going too much into the specific issue of Ukraine and its separatist republics, the concept of territorial integrity undermines the idea of popular sovereignty to the point that the latter might as well not exist under international law. If sovereignty is held by the populace, then unilateral succession is surely legal. That no one considers it to be such is proof that the principle of popular sovereignty is a legal fiction and that it is the state, not the populace, that are sovereign, i.e. that sovereignty flows from the sovereign downward rather than from the public upward.

[Sungoldy-China]

The U.S. just needs to pay Ukraine.
Ukraine, a country with nothing, is just do someting to get money from his sugar daddy.

It is not appropriate to spend money that can be spent on US citizens abroad.Ukraine and Russia should be two sister states and Russia should respect the territorial integrity of Ukraine. Crimean problem should be asked to the people of the Crimea.

You are talking about the ideal state, but in reality, Russia can not pay Ukraine,

Ukrainian politicians also need benefits to meet the needs of election. If Russia cannot pay them, they will naturally turn to other countries. At the same time, in order to show their determination, they of course need to take radical actions to win trust.

This is how small countries survive. Small countries do not have enough markets and productivity to sustain the growing needs of their citizens, so their politicians need to find a sugar daddy that is willing to pay.

[Rio Cana]

The U.S. just needs to pay Ukraine.
Ukraine, a country with nothing, is just do someting to get money from his sugar daddy.

It is not appropriate to spend money that can be spent on US citizens abroad.Ukraine and Russia should be two sister states and Russia should respect the territorial integrity of Ukraine. Crimean problem should be asked to the people of the Crimea.

Poland, Hungary, Slovakia and Romania have some territorial questions. After all, the Soviets were the ones who expanded Ukraines borders at the expense of its neighbors. Many of there citizens ended up in Ukraine. Some of those neighbors after WW II became soviet satellite nations. So they signed border agreements which tended to favor Soviet Ukraine. No more Soviets and these nations would like to re-address those old border agreements. For example, the mouth of the Danube river is in Romania. But the Soviets made sure Soviet Ukraine expanded to the Northern delta of the Danube river including controlling some river islands which were all part of Romania.

This map shows the expansion of Ukraine - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_hi ... growth.png

Read this on why certain EU. nations want separatism in Ukraine - https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/ ... n-ukraine/

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

It is not appropriate to spend money that can be spent on US citizens abroad.Ukraine and Russia should be two sister states and Russia should respect the territorial integrity of Ukraine. Crimean problem should be asked to the people of the Crimea.

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You are talking about the ideal state, but in reality, Russia can not pay Ukraine,

Ukrainian politicians also need benefits to meet the needs of election. If Russia cannot pay them, they will naturally turn to other countries. At the same time, in order to show their determination, they of course need to take radical actions to win trust.

This is how small countries survive. Small countries do not have enough markets and productivity to sustain the growing needs of their citizens, so their politicians need to find a sugar daddy that is willing to pay.

Crimean Tatars can initiate a self-generating and self-sufficient economic process. It should be saved from being a toy for Ukraine and Russia. While Russia is providing justice abroad, it does not treat its brothers fairly and this makes me sad. 8-state black sea union should be provided.

[Kowani]

Senate Foreign Relations Committee unanimously approves bill to Increase Military Aid to Ukraine, $300 million per year

he US Senate Foreign Relations Committee unanimously voted on Wednesday to authorise up to $300 million of annual military aid to Ukraine, including lethal assistance, as Washington looks to ratchet up pressure on Russia.

The committee passed the Ukraine Security Partnership Act sponsored by a bipartisan group of senators including Democrat Bob Menendez (D-NJ) and Republican Jim Risch (R-ID). The bill authorizes up to $300m per year of foreign military financing to Ukraine, subject to certifications, including the authority to provide it with lethal military assistance and $4m per year to train its military officers.

Mr Menendez said he spoke with Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba before the vote. The two discussed “the massive Russian troop build-up along the eastern border and aggression in the Black Sea and Sea of Azov”. The bill requires a report on US diplomatic support for Ukraine over the next five years, and another from the Department of Defence and State Department on the capability and capacity requirements of Ukraine’s armed forces, as well as a plan to supply US security assistance to Ukraine.

It also calls to rapidly send excess hardware to Ukraine, and to encourage partner nations to do the same. [...] The bill now is on its way to the Senate floor for a full vote.

[Sungoldy-China]

Senate Foreign Relations Committee unanimously approves bill to Increase Military Aid to Ukraine, $300 million per year

he US Senate Foreign Relations Committee unanimously voted on Wednesday to authorise up to $300 million of annual military aid to Ukraine, including lethal assistance, as Washington looks to ratchet up pressure on Russia.

The committee passed the Ukraine Security Partnership Act sponsored by a bipartisan group of senators including Democrat Bob Menendez (D-NJ) and Republican Jim Risch (R-ID). The bill authorizes up to $300m per year of foreign military financing to Ukraine, subject to certifications, including the authority to provide it with lethal military assistance and $4m per year to train its military officers.

Mr Menendez said he spoke with Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba before the vote. The two discussed “the massive Russian troop build-up along the eastern border and aggression in the Black Sea and Sea of Azov”. The bill requires a report on US diplomatic support for Ukraine over the next five years, and another from the Department of Defence and State Department on the capability and capacity requirements of Ukraine’s armed forces, as well as a plan to supply US security assistance to Ukraine.

It also calls to rapidly send excess hardware to Ukraine, and to encourage partner nations to do the same. [...] The bill now is on its way to the Senate floor for a full vote.

Too little,
Since Ukraine’s crisis broke out in 2013, its per capita GDP has dropped from 4,249.343 to 3,726.937. Based on the Ukrainian population of 44.39 million, the United States needs to be more generous.
I think Ukraine will find a way to continue to exacerbate the situation,
With such a small amount of money, there is no way for politicians to justify their actions.
Intensifying border conflicts can both divert attention and allow the United States to give more money.

[Kowani]

Zelensky says Ukraine is "ready for war", will "stand to the last man"

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday night and warned his citizens that the country would "stand to the last man" in the event of a war with Russia, as tensions continue to build along the border between the two nations. "Does Ukraine want war? No. Is it ready for it? Yes," Zelensky said during a Tuesday address, according to The New York Times." Our principle is simple: Ukraine does not start a war first, but Ukraine always stands to the last man." Zelensky's statements come on the eve of Russian President Vladimir Putin's annual state of the union address Wednesday. During his speech, Zelensky addressed Putin directly, urging him to meet for a peace summit in Donbas, a war-torn region where Ukraine's military has battled Russian-backed separatists for years.

"It is impossible to bring peace on a tank," Zelensky said in Russian, before adding: "I am ready to invite you to meet anywhere in the Ukrainian Donbas where there is war." [...] On April 15, Ukraine Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba warned that if Russia crosses the 'red line,' that it will "suffer."

[Sungoldy-China]

Zelensky says Ukraine is "ready for war", will "stand to the last man"

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday night and warned his citizens that the country would "stand to the last man" in the event of a war with Russia, as tensions continue to build along the border between the two nations. "Does Ukraine want war? No. Is it ready for it? Yes," Zelensky said during a Tuesday address, according to The New York Times." Our principle is simple: Ukraine does not start a war first, but Ukraine always stands to the last man." Zelensky's statements come on the eve of Russian President Vladimir Putin's annual state of the union address Wednesday. During his speech, Zelensky addressed Putin directly, urging him to meet for a peace summit in Donbas, a war-torn region where Ukraine's military has battled Russian-backed separatists for years.

"It is impossible to bring peace on a tank," Zelensky said in Russian, before adding: "I am ready to invite you to meet anywhere in the Ukrainian Donbas where there is war." [...] On April 15, Ukraine Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba warned that if Russia crosses the 'red line,' that it will "suffer."

Let me translate for the President of Ukraine: ‘American Dad, please continue pay’

[Omniabstracta]

In an rapid and unexpected shift, Russia has ordered its troops back from the border.

The Russian defense minister on Thursday ordered troops at the Ukraine border to return to their regular positions.

The move could end weeks of geopolitical tension caused by a massive build-up of troops and weaponry at the Ukraine border.

"I believe that the goals of the snap check have been fully achieved. The troops have demonstrated their ability to provide a reliable defense of the country. In this regard, I have decided to complete the inspections in the Southern and Western military districts," Sergei Shoigu said in Crimea.

Shoigu said that the military should start returning to their permanent deployment centers starting from April 23. However, he also ordered that heavy weapons be kept in place about 160 kilometers (100 miles) east of the border for another military exercise later this year.

Shoigu also said that the military must be prepared to quickly respond in case of an "unfavourable" development in the situation near NATO's Defender Europe exercises, the Interfax news agency reported. The exercises are an annual US-led, multinational joint exercise between US and other NATO militaries.

The troop buildup came during increasing violations of a ceasefire in Ukraine's east. According to the European Union, about 100,000 troops were at the border.

[SD_Film Artists]

The conflict is only heating up in the first place due to Ukraine moving troops and equipment into the area.

The area of Ukraine?

[Punished UMN]

In an rapid and unexpected shift, Russia has ordered its troops back from the border.

The Russian defense minister on Thursday ordered troops at the Ukraine border to return to their regular positions.

The move could end weeks of geopolitical tension caused by a massive build-up of troops and weaponry at the Ukraine border.

"I believe that the goals of the snap check have been fully achieved. The troops have demonstrated their ability to provide a reliable defense of the country. In this regard, I have decided to complete the inspections in the Southern and Western military districts," Sergei Shoigu said in Crimea.

Shoigu said that the military should start returning to their permanent deployment centers starting from April 23. However, he also ordered that heavy weapons be kept in place about 160 kilometers (100 miles) east of the border for another military exercise later this year.

Shoigu also said that the military must be prepared to quickly respond in case of an "unfavourable" development in the situation near NATO's Defender Europe exercises, the Interfax news agency reported. The exercises are an annual US-led, multinational joint exercise between US and other NATO militaries.

The troop buildup came during increasing violations of a ceasefire in Ukraine's east. According to the European Union, about 100,000 troops were at the border.

Rapid and unexpected if you never follow "Russia border tensions." This happens like twice a year, the Russian military does frequent exercises on its European border and NATO freaks out about war for a couple weeks until the exercises end. Same shit with the ROK-US exercises in Korea.

[Nolo gap]

not having been there, but just as a wild guess, it never entirely unheated.

[Thermodolia]

Looks like Biden found a quagmire for our boys to die in. It will be like the old days. Moscow backed rebels against the US Military and the random half functioning Democracies Military.

Russia won Crimea Fair and Square let's leave them alone. As the old saying goes "If The United States and Russia ever go to war it will be started by the United States. We broke our Gentlemens agreement with Moscow that NATO wouldn't go East of Germany.

So far, Biden seems to....not want to intervene militarily in any capacity,

Which is a bit odd considering his history of being pro war

[Sungoldy-China]

In an rapid and unexpected shift, Russia has ordered its troops back from the border.

The Russian defense minister on Thursday ordered troops at the Ukraine border to return to their regular positions.

The move could end weeks of geopolitical tension caused by a massive build-up of troops and weaponry at the Ukraine border.

"I believe that the goals of the snap check have been fully achieved. The troops have demonstrated their ability to provide a reliable defense of the country. In this regard, I have decided to complete the inspections in the Southern and Western military districts," Sergei Shoigu said in Crimea.

Shoigu said that the military should start returning to their permanent deployment centers starting from April 23. However, he also ordered that heavy weapons be kept in place about 160 kilometers (100 miles) east of the border for another military exercise later this year.

Shoigu also said that the military must be prepared to quickly respond in case of an "unfavourable" development in the situation near NATO's Defender Europe exercises, the Interfax news agency reported. The exercises are an annual US-led, multinational joint exercise between US and other NATO militaries.

The troop buildup came during increasing violations of a ceasefire in Ukraine's east. According to the European Union, about 100,000 troops were at the border.

'Senate Foreign Relations Committee unanimously approves bill to Increase Military Aid to Ukraine, $300 million per year'

Russia should realize that the United States is only willing to give Ukraine $300 million per year，after all Ukraine have done ,

With just such a small amount of money, Ukraine has no power to threaten Russia’s interests in Ukraine, and it also shows that the United States is just talking in words and will not do anything substantive.

[Senkaku]

In an rapid and unexpected shift, Russia has ordered its troops back from the border.

The Russian defense minister on Thursday ordered troops at the Ukraine border to return to their regular positions.

The move could end weeks of geopolitical tension caused by a massive build-up of troops and weaponry at the Ukraine border.

"I believe that the goals of the snap check have been fully achieved. The troops have demonstrated their ability to provide a reliable defense of the country. In this regard, I have decided to complete the inspections in the Southern and Western military districts," Sergei Shoigu said in Crimea.

Shoigu said that the military should start returning to their permanent deployment centers starting from April 23. However, he also ordered that heavy weapons be kept in place about 160 kilometers (100 miles) east of the border for another military exercise later this year.

Shoigu also said that the military must be prepared to quickly respond in case of an "unfavourable" development in the situation near NATO's Defender Europe exercises, the Interfax news agency reported. The exercises are an annual US-led, multinational joint exercise between US and other NATO militaries.

The troop buildup came during increasing violations of a ceasefire in Ukraine's east. According to the European Union, about 100,000 troops were at the border.

So they spooked everyone and made their point or whatever? Cool

[Sharania]

Nothing is “over” it seems.

Sweden (via the Minister of Defense of Sweden Peter Hultqvist) thinks that Russia can quickly transfer personnel to the borders. The announced withdrawal of Russian troops from the Ukrainian border and return to their permanent deployment points is “a smokescreen”. This was stated by t on the air of the TV channel SVT.

Hultqvist says Moscow is escalating the conflict in eastern Ukraine and creats an "extremely tense situation." “I'm talking about a smoke screen: leaving the equipment and materiel in place creates an opportunity to quickly build up one’s forces,” said Hultqvist. He added that the Russian authorities can "raise and lower the level of tension" in the region, depending on their interests.

[Tsaivao]

Nothing is “over” it seems.

Sweden (via the Minister of Defense of Sweden Peter Hultqvist) thinks that Russia can quickly transfer personnel to the borders. The announced withdrawal of Russian troops from the Ukrainian border and return to their permanent deployment points is “a smokescreen”. This was stated by t on the air of the TV channel SVT.

Hultqvist says Moscow is escalating the conflict in eastern Ukraine and creats an "extremely tense situation." “I'm talking about a smoke screen: leaving the equipment and materiel in place creates an opportunity to quickly build up one’s forces,” said Hultqvist. He added that the Russian authorities can "raise and lower the level of tension" in the region, depending on their interests.

I mean, they could always do that. The equipment hasn't magically disappeared during any of Russia's other border incidents, so I fail to see exactly how this is a novel threat.

[Shofercia]

Nothing is “over” it seems.

Sweden (via the Minister of Defense of Sweden Peter Hultqvist) thinks that Russia can quickly transfer personnel to the borders. The announced withdrawal of Russian troops from the Ukrainian border and return to their permanent deployment points is “a smokescreen”. This was stated by t on the air of the TV channel SVT.

Hultqvist says Moscow is escalating the conflict in eastern Ukraine and creats an "extremely tense situation." “I'm talking about a smoke screen: leaving the equipment and materiel in place creates an opportunity to quickly build up one’s forces,” said Hultqvist. He added that the Russian authorities can "raise and lower the level of tension" in the region, depending on their interests.

Apparently the Russian can hold military exercises in Russia on a whim. Perhaps couping governments on Russia's borders wasn't the best idea the Neocons/Neolibs had?

[Senkaku]

Always nice to be pleasantly surprised by humans not massacring each other with heavy weapons over land squabbles! Seems for the moment we can let this thread die (unless they suddenly send all the troops pouring back or something).

Nothing is “over” it seems.

Sweden (via the Minister of Defense of Sweden Peter Hultqvist) thinks that Russia can quickly transfer personnel to the borders.

Can't... every major power...?

The announced withdrawal of Russian troops from the Ukrainian border and return to their permanent deployment points is “a smokescreen”. This was stated by t on the air of the TV channel SVT.

Hultqvist says Moscow is escalating the conflict in eastern Ukraine and creats an "extremely tense situation." “I'm talking about a smoke screen: leaving the equipment and materiel in place creates an opportunity to quickly build up one’s forces,” said Hultqvist. He added that the Russian authorities can "raise and lower the level of tension" in the region, depending on their interests.

You mean... like they just did? You're writing this like the man is describing something that isn't self-evident and is a huge problem, but it seems like for the moment a huge problem has been averted, even if it could still crop up again. Leaving some artillery near the border or whatever seems like pretty small potatoes, the US moves more firepower all around the globe on a daily basis tbh.