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Postby The Python » Thu Apr 08, 2021 6:01 pm

After Condemn Scardino failed at vote, I decided to write something else in the SC:

The Security Council,

NOTING Altmoras as a nation founded initially in 2012, and has since contributed significantly to Lazarus, Hell and The Order of the Grey Wardens

FURTHER NOTING Altmoras' contributions to Hell - a region which has been commended by this council for its high-security system to prevent invasions despite the fact that it was founderless - such as leading them to victory in 2019 during the annual N-Day event,

PRAISING Altmoras' contributions to the sinker region of Lazarus during the control of the defender-aligned Human Republic, which included:
  1. Reviving activity and establishing informal guidelines for procedures in the law-making Assembly of Lazarus during its term as Speaker in 2016, following a period of inactivity in the Assembly,
  2. Leading the Lazarene Liberation Army following Funkadelia's resignation in 2017, which helped defend countless regions from the threat of invasion across NationStates such as The Arab League,
  3. Being Sovereign (Delegate) of Lazarus in 2017 a few months before Funkadelia's ascention to the delegacy and eventual coup of the region,

ADMIRING Altmoras' leadership in The Order of The Grey Wardens (TGW) as Warden Altmoras, a defender organisation and helping defend many regions from invasion, by:
  1. Serving as a Warden-Commander from July 2017, helping lead defensive operations,
  2. Participating in at least 3000 operations with TGW; some notable operations Altmoras participated in include the liberations on South Pacific in 2020, Japan in 2017 and Belgium in 2016, as well as the defenses of Philippines and Middle Earth (both in 2019)
  3. Serving as a Warden-Commander from July 2017, helping lead defensive operations,

LAUDING Altmoras' contributions to the region of Singapore, giving advice to Singapore No2 to establish more secure methods of entry and authoring SC#210,

CONCLUDING with Altmoras' work as speaker for the Rejected Realms, helping chair debate of legislation and increasing engagement in the law-making Assembly of the Rejected Realms by notifying members of the Assembly of ongoing votes,

Hereby commends Altmoras.

The Security Council,

OBSERVING that Altmoras currently serves as Astaroth of Hell, a region which has been commended by this council for its high security system to prevent invasions but still allowing new nations to join the region, and has made outstanding contributions to Hell by:
  1. Leading the renowned Horsemen of the Apocalypse, headed by Hell and its allies, to dominating and resounding victories over 500 competing factions in the nuclear apocalypses of 2018 and 2019, only being eclipsed in nuclear dominance by UPPERCUT in 2018,
  2. Helping invite newly founded nations to Hell's sister region Underworld by notifying their leaders, where they pass the trials to join the main region Hell, and then helping screen them before they are allowed entry into Hell,
PRAISING Altmoras' contributions to the sinker region of Lazarus during the control of the defender-aligned Humane Republic by serving in various government positions and:
  1. Reviving activity and establishing informal guidelines for procedures in the law-making Assembly of Lazarus during its term as Speaker in 2016, following a period of inactivity in the Assembly,
  2. Leading the Lazarene Liberation Army following Funkadelia's resignation in 2016, which helped defend countless regions from the threat of invasion across NationStates such as The Arab League,
  3. Serving as Sovereign (Delegate) of Lazarus in 2017 a few months before Funkadelia's ascention to the delegacy and eventual coup of the region, and a critical position in the leadership of the region then,
ADMIRING Altmoras' leadership in The Order of The Grey Wardens (TGW), a defender organistion, through the satellite nation of Warden Altmoras and helping defend many regions from invasion – it has served as a Warden-Commander since August 2016, and also served as the High Constable from November 2016 to January 2017,

CELEBRATING that Altmoras has paticipated in over 3000 defensive operations – notable operations among these include the liberations on Christmas in 2020, Japan in 2017 and Belgium in 2016, as well as the defenses of Philippines and Middle Earth (both in 2019),

LAUDING Altmoras' contributions to the region of Singapore, helping establish more secure methods of entry by authoring SC#210 which allowed natives to password protect the region to make the region more secure from invasion,

CONGRATULATING Altmoras' work as speaker for the Rejected Realms in early 2019, helping chair debate of legislation and increasing engagement in the law-making Assembly of the Rejected Realms by notifying citizens of the Rejected Realms of ongoing votes though telegrams to their leaders,

Hereby commends Altmoras.


The Security Council,

Noting Altmoras’ current position as Astaroth of Hell, a region guarded by an ever-changing pathway to entry and a series of trials so intensive that it was commended by this very council, where they have contributed to the region’s notoriety by recruiting newly founded nations to Hell’s sister region, Underworld and assisting in screening those who pass the Trials, growing the legions of Hellions who reside in that dark place, as well as maintaining communications for Hellions to allow them to communicate more accurately with each other,

Further noting that Altmoras led the renowned Horsemen of the Apocalypse, headed by Hell and its allies, to dominating and resounding victories over 500 competing factions in the nuclear apocalypses of 2018 and 2019, only being eclipsed in nuclear dominance by UPPERCUT in 2018,

Praising Altmoras' service in various government positions in the sinker region of Lazarus during the control of the defender-aligned Humane Republic, during which time they would:
  1. Revive activity and establish informal guidelines for procedures in the law-making Assembly of Lazarus during its term as Speaker in 2016, following a period of inactivity in the Assembly,
  2. Lead the Lazarene Liberation Army following Funkadelia's resignation in 2016, helping defend and defender countless regions from the threat of invasion such as leading the liberation of The Arab League in 2017,
  3. Serve as Sovereign (Delegate) of Lazarus in 2017, a position in charge of running most aspects of the region as well as representing it in the World Assembly – some achievements as Sovereign included writing one of the first regional dispatches encouraging the art of exchanging endorsements and reviving other dispatches on Lazarus, such as those on the regional embassy policy and constitution,
  4. Create and manage channels of communication for Lazarenes that lasted from 2016 until the fall of the Khanate coup government in April 2018
Acclaiming Altmoras' tenure as Speaker of the Rejected Realms in early 2019, where they chaired debate of legislation and increased engagement in the law-making Assembly of the Rejected Realms by notifying citizens of the Rejected Realms of ongoing votes though telegrams to their leaders,

Celebrating Altmoras’ extensive career as a defender, working to protect countless regions from invasion across a span of 3000 defensive operations – notable among these:
  1. The liberation on Christmas in 2020 where a force of over 40 soldiers including Altmoras freed the captured region from the grasp of of invaders,
  2. Helping in the liberation on Japan in September 2017, involving over 50 defenders against a large invader pile,
  3. The liberation of Anontia in 2019 against The Black Hawks – The region was occupied by invader forces led by Miss Bad Life Choices, but within 4 updates a force of over 30 defenders including Altmoras successfully liberated it,
Admiring Altmoras' leadership in The Order of The Grey Wardens (TGW), a renowned defender region, and has helped liberate and defend countless regions abroad by serving in various leadership positions such as:
  1. Warden-Commander since August 2016 to the present, a position in charge of assisting the First Warden in leading anti-raider operations,
  2. High Constable from November 2016 to January 2017, where, as a result of First Warden Roavin's preoccupation as Minister of Defence of the South Pacific, they assumed most of the duties as de facto leader of TGW and went on to lead TGW on liberations like that of Asiana in 2016,
Lauding Altmoras' contributions to the region of Singapore, a founderless region constantly under the threat of invasion, by aiding natives to create more secure methods of entry as well as authoring Repeal: “Liberate Singapore” (SC#210), which allowed for the reimplementation of a delegate-imposed password to protect residents of Singapore from further attack,

Hereby Commends Altmoras.
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The Security Council,

Noting Altmoras’ current position as Astaroth of Hell, a region guarded by an ever-changing pathway to entry and a series of trials so intensive that it was commended by this very council, where they have contributed to the region’s notoriety by recruiting newly founded nations to Hell’s sister region, Underworld and assisting in screening those who pass the Trials, growing the legions of Hellions who reside in that dark place, as well as maintaining communications for Hellions to allow them to communicate more accurately with each other,

Further noting Altmoras' leadership of the Horsemen of the Apocalypse, the nuclear faction of Hell and their allies, in their dominant participation through the nuclear apocalypses of 2018, where they would come in second only to UPPERCUT, and 2019, in which they demolished all others and took the victory over UPPERCUT's successor faction, and in doing so cemented Hell and its allies as one of the most dominant nuclear forces in recent history and developed a point of regional pride,

Praising Altmoras' service in various government positions in the sinker region of Lazarus during the control of the defender-aligned Humane Republic, during which time they would:
  1. Revive activity and establish informal guidelines for procedures in the law-making Assembly of Lazarus during its term as Speaker in 2016, following a period of inactivity in the Assembly,
  2. Lead the Lazarene Liberation Army following Funkadelia's resignation in 2016, helping defend and liberate countless regions from the threat of invasion such as leading the liberation of The Arab League in 2017, as well as representing the LLA in the Coalition Against the Ideology of Nazism (CAIN), a notable anti-fascist group at the time,
  3. Serve as Sovereign of Lazarus in 2017, a position in charge of representing the region in the World Assembly and running most aspects of the region, where they would significantly improve the region's infrastructure through the publication of comprehensive regional dispatches including those encouraging the exchangement of endorsements as well as detailing the region's embassy policy and constitution,
  4. Create and manage channels of communication for Lazarenes that lasted from 2016 until the fall of the Khanate coup government in April 2018,
Celebrating Altmoras’ extensive career as a defender, working to protect countless regions from invasion across a span of 3000 defensive operations – notable among these:
  1. The liberation on Christmas in 2020 where a force of over 40 soldiers including Altmoras freed the captured region from the grasp of of invaders,
  2. Helping in the liberation on Japan in September 2017, involving over 50 defenders against a large invader pile,
  3. The liberation of Anontia in 2019 against The Black Hawks – The region was occupied by invader forces led by Miss Bad Life Choices, but within 4 updates a force of over 40 defenders including Altmoras successfully liberated it,
  4. Operation Defender Illuminati in October 2016, where both Belgium, a large historic founderless region and The North Woods, another founderless region, were liberated from the control of invaders and their sovereignty restored to natives within minutes,
Admiring Altmoras' leadership in The Order of The Grey Wardens (TGW), a renowned defender region, and has helped liberate and defend countless regions abroad by serving in various leadership positions such as:
  1. Warden-Commander since August 2016 to the present, a position in charge of assisting the First Warden in leading anti-raider operations - as a Warden-Commander Altmoras also helped create dispatches encouraging endorsement of the WA delegate
  2. High Constable from November 2016 to January 2017, where, as a result of First Warden Roavin's preoccupation as Minister of Defence of the South Pacific, they assumed most of the duties as de facto leader of TGW and took over Foreign Affairs operations and went on to lead TGW on liberations like that of Asiana in 2016,
Lauding Altmoras' contributions to the region of Singapore, a founderless region constantly under the threat of invasion, by aiding natives to create more secure methods of entry as well as authoring Repeal: “Liberate Singapore” (SC#210), which allowed for the reimplementation of a delegate-imposed password to protect residents of Singapore from further attack,

Hereby Commends Altmoras.
Co-authored by Westinor


Thank you to Deadeye Jack for helping provide information about Altmoras' role in TGW, and The Stalker about Hell! Also huge thanks to Westinor for helping co-author.
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Postby Honeydewistania » Thu Apr 08, 2021 6:15 pm

A good start, but more elaboration is needed. Why is winning a nuclear war good? What did SC#210 do? Etc
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Postby The Python » Thu Apr 08, 2021 6:23 pm

Honeydewistania wrote:A good start, but more elaboration is needed. Why is winning a nuclear war good? What did SC#210 do? Etc

I'll do more research on the Hell thing, but I've added detail about what SC#210 did.
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Postby Altmoras » Thu Apr 08, 2021 6:35 pm

Oh boy, I'm not going to denounce this out of hand or anything, but I feel like there are plenty of others far more deserving of a commendation than myself.

Some timelines here aren't quite right either, a lot of the things you cite from 2017 were in 2016. Funk stepped down as Grand Commandant a few days after BT resigned as del in 2016, I was elected Del in late 2016, I first joined the Command Staff in TGW in August 2016, etc.

I also don't think I've ever spoken to Singapore No. 2. Most of my interfacing with Singapore's natives other than idle chatter has been with Bathor and Tinkburg.
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Postby Westinor » Thu Apr 08, 2021 6:52 pm

:twisted: I agree that some work needs to be done here. I have wording quibbles - in general, I think your wording is a bit bland - but best work on the main bits first. I like the idea, though.

The Python wrote:NOTING Altmoras as a nation founded initially in 2012, and has since contributed significantly to Lazarus, Hell and The Order of the Grey Wardens

Personally, not a fan of this opening. I'm not asking for a winding, flowery opening (though if done right I really am a fan of that! :p) but this doesn't tell me anything particularly new or frame the rest of the proposal in a certain way.

The Python wrote:FURTHER NOTING Altmoras' contributions to Hell - a region which has been commended by this council for its high-security system to prevent invasions despite the fact that it was founderless - such as leading them to victory in 2019 during the annual N-Day event,

The "N-Day event" might be an illegality? Best refer to it as "the nuclear apocalypse in 2019" or something similar. I agree that this can be elaborated on, though.

The Python wrote:Leading the Lazarene Liberation Army following Funkadelia's resignation in 2017, which helped defend countless regions from the threat of invasion across NationStates such as The Arab League,
Being Sovereign of Lazarus in 2017 a few months before Funkadelia's ascention to the delegacy and eventual coup of the region,

Is there anything particularly special about this? Any notable contributions, particularly as Sovereign? With no supplementary information, I currently have no idea what the Sovereign of Lazarus does. Can you add more to the bit about leading the LLA as well?

The Python wrote:Serving as a Warden-Commander from July 2017, helping lead defensive operations,

The description feels a little bit lacking here. Can you perhaps add more information on how they attained the position, operations they led... that kind of thing?

The Python wrote:Participating in at least 3000 operations with TGW; some notable operations Altmoras participated in include the liberations on South Pacific in 2020, Japan in 2017 and Belgium in 2016, as well as the defenses of Philippines and Middle Earth (both in 2019)

It might be nice to include operations that Altmoras played a large role in as well, not just participated in. That's mostly personal preference, though - of course if they aren't particularly notable operations don't go that way.

The Python wrote:Served as the High Constable and led TGW in 2017 during the First Warden Roavin's period as Minister of Defense of the South Pacific,

Why is it significant that they were serving during Roavin's term as MoD in TSP? Additionally, could you add on what their role was and any contributions they made?

The Python wrote:LAUDING Altmoras' contributions to the region of Singapore, giving advice to Singapore No2 to establish more secure methods of entry and authoring SC#210 which allowed natives to password protect the region to make the region more secure from invasion,

Wording thing here - I don't like "giving advice" (lol). I think something along the lines of "aiding Singapore No2..." or something similar.

The Python wrote:CONCLUDING with Altmoras' work as speaker for the Rejected Realms, helping chair debate of legislation and increasing engagement in the law-making Assembly of the Rejected Realms by notifying members of the Assembly of ongoing votes,

"Concluding" feels better suited for actual concluding clauses, one of which you could use, as opposed to just the last clause in general.

EDIT: Oh, right - probs want to address the nominee’s actual points as well xD Disregard anything that might conflict with that.
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Postby The Python » Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:20 pm

Westinor wrote:
The Python wrote:NOTING Altmoras as a nation founded initially in 2012, and has since contributed significantly to Lazarus, Hell and The Order of the Grey Wardens

Personally, not a fan of this opening. I'm not asking for a winding, flowery opening (though if done right I really am a fan of that! :p) but this doesn't tell me anything particularly new or frame the rest of the proposal in a certain way.

Guess I'll get rid of it until I can think of something better

Westinor wrote:
The Python wrote:FURTHER NOTING Altmoras' contributions to Hell - a region which has been commended by this council for its high-security system to prevent invasions despite the fact that it was founderless - such as leading them to victory in 2019 during the annual N-Day event,

The "N-Day event" might be an illegality? Best refer to it as "the nuclear apocalypse in 2019" or something similar. I agree that this can be elaborated on, though.
Yeah I'll do more research, but I've fixed that for now

Westinor wrote:
The Python wrote:Leading the Lazarene Liberation Army following Funkadelia's resignation in 2017, which helped defend countless regions from the threat of invasion across NationStates such as The Arab League,
Being Sovereign of Lazarus in 2017 a few months before Funkadelia's ascention to the delegacy and eventual coup of the region,

Is there anything particularly special about this? Any notable contributions, particularly as Sovereign? With no supplementary information, I currently have no idea what the Sovereign of Lazarus does. Can you add more to the bit about leading the LLA as well?
Also would have to do more research on this, it was back in 2017 so

Westinor wrote:
The Python wrote:Participating in at least 3000 operations with TGW; some notable operations Altmoras participated in include the liberations on South Pacific in 2020, Japan in 2017 and Belgium in 2016, as well as the defenses of Philippines and Middle Earth (both in 2019)

It might be nice to include operations that Altmoras played a large role in as well, not just participated in. That's mostly personal preference, though - of course if they aren't particularly notable operations don't go that way.
Again, I'll try to see if I can find anything

Westinor wrote:
The Python wrote:Served as the High Constable and led TGW in 2017 during the First Warden Roavin's period as Minister of Defense of the South Pacific,

Why is it significant that they were serving during Roavin's term as MoD in TSP? Additionally, could you add on what their role was and any contributions they made?
IIRC what happened was Roavin was First Warden but could not do it due to time commitments as Minister of Defense, so Altmoras who was second in command ran it during this time

Westinor wrote:
The Python wrote:LAUDING Altmoras' contributions to the region of Singapore, giving advice to Singapore No2 to establish more secure methods of entry and authoring SC#210 which allowed natives to password protect the region to make the region more secure from invasion,

Wording thing here - I don't like "giving advice" (lol). I think something along the lines of "aiding Singapore No2..." or something similar.
OK

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The Python wrote:CONCLUDING with Altmoras' work as speaker for the Rejected Realms, helping chair debate of legislation and increasing engagement in the law-making Assembly of the Rejected Realms by notifying members of the Assembly of ongoing votes,

"Concluding" feels better suited for actual concluding clauses, one of which you could use, as opposed to just the last clause in general.
OK it's now Noting
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Postby Tinhampton » Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:26 pm

The Python wrote:the liberations on South Pacific in 2020 [...]

This is the second proposal I've seen in the past few days which has asserted that defenders succeeded in liberating South Pacific.
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Postby The Python » Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:29 pm

Tinhampton wrote:
The Python wrote:the liberations on South Pacific in 2020 [...]

This is the second proposal I've seen in the past few days which has asserted that defenders succeeded in liberating South Pacific.

Not anymore :p
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Postby Outer Sparta » Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:50 pm

So far I'm not totally convinced the nominee is commendable, so opposed for the time being.
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Outer Sparta wrote:So far I'm not totally convinced the nominee is commendable, so opposed for the time being.

I'm sure that adding amogus to the bill will change your mind
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Postby The Python » Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:40 pm

Great Algerstonia wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:So far I'm not totally convinced the nominee is commendable, so opposed for the time being.

I'm sure that adding amogus to the bill will change your mind

Amogus added :)
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Postby Honeydewistania » Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:39 am

The Python wrote:OBSERVING Altmoras' contributions to Hell - a region which has been commended by this council for its high-security system to prevent invasions despite the fact that it was founderless - such as leading them to victory during the nuclear apocalypse in 2019,


Surely there's something other than just leading them to N-Day victory that they contributed?

PRAISING Altmoras' contributions to the sinker region of Lazarus during the control of the defender-aligned Human Republic, which included:
  1. Reviving activity and establishing informal guidelines for procedures in the law-making Assembly of Lazarus during its term as Speaker in 2016, following a period of inactivity in the Assembly,
  2. Leading the Lazarene Liberation Army following Funkadelia's resignation in 2017, which helped defend countless regions from the threat of invasion across NationStates such as The Arab League,
  3. Being Sovereign (Delegate) of Lazarus in 2017 a few months before Funkadelia's ascention to the delegacy and eventual coup of the region,


This is good, but the last clause would be good with more elaboration on what was done in the role.

ADMIRING Altmoras' leadership in The Order of The Grey Wardens (TGW) as Warden Altmoras, a defender organisation and helping defend many regions from invasion, by:
  1. Serving as a Warden-Commander from July 2017, helping lead defensive operations such as the liberations of New United Kingdom and Japan,
  2. Participating in at least 3000 operations with TGW; some notable operations Altmoras participated in include the liberations on New United Kingdom in 2021, Japan in 2017 and Belgium in 2016, as well as the defenses of Philippines and Middle Earth (both in 2019)
  3. Serving as the High Constable and de facto leader of TGW in 2017 during the First Warden Roavin's period as Minister of Defense of the South Pacific,


You say New United Kingdom twice here.

NOTING Altmoras' work as speaker for the Rejected Realms, helping chair debate of legislation and increasing engagement in the law-making Assembly of the Rejected Realms by notifying members of the Assembly of ongoing votes,


Is there anything else you could potentially add here?
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Postby Molopovia » Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:42 am

Looks fine to me, I would support this
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Ikania
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Postby Ikania » Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:43 am

Strongly support, in spite of Alt’s humility. It’s been a long time since I’ve worked alongside him, but from my memory I can say he is certainly a loyal and dependable gameplayer who is absolutely deserving of this commendation.

Be sure to correct your spelling of the Humane Republic of Lazarus. We weren’t that anthropocentric!
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The Python
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Postby The Python » Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:22 pm

Ikania wrote:Be sure to correct your spelling of the Humane Republic of Lazarus. We weren’t that anthropocentric!

Lol fixed now :p but aren't all Lazarenes humans
Altmoras wrote:Some timelines here aren't quite right either, a lot of the things you cite from 2017 were in 2016. Funk stepped down as Grand Commandant a few days after BT resigned as del in 2016, I was elected Del in late 2016, I first joined the Command Staff in TGW in August 2016, etc.

I also don't think I've ever spoken to Singapore No. 2. Most of my interfacing with Singapore's natives other than idle chatter has been with Bathor and Tinkburg.

Oops fixed.

I will have to keep researching to elaborate further on this draft as pointed out by Honeydewistania (I contacted Stalker about his actions in Hell and he said he'll tell me in the weekend).
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Fauxia
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Postby Fauxia » Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:48 pm

I feel like we could use more details about Altmoras' work in Hell. In any case, the first clause reads clunkily to me.
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Postby The Python » Sun Apr 11, 2021 10:13 pm

Fauxia wrote:I feel like we could use more details about Altmoras' work in Hell. In any case, the first clause reads clunkily to me.

I talked to The Stalker and added more detail about Hell. Would this be better?
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Fauxia
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Postby Fauxia » Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:57 pm

The added information is good. I'm not sure I love the "clause, splits into a list" execution atm though.
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The Python
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Postby The Python » Mon Apr 12, 2021 4:30 pm

Fauxia wrote:The added information is good. I'm not sure I love the "clause, splits into a list" execution atm though.

Hmm okay. I split the clause about TGW into 2, also merged 2 of the items in the list about Hell into one.
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Postby The Python » Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:41 pm

Added PRAISING iv. which states that Altmoras administered the Discord server for Lazarus which lasted until Imki overthrew the Khanate, but I don't know if it's an illegality :unsure:
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Westinor
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Postby Westinor » Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:44 pm

The Python wrote:Added PRAISING iv. which states that Altmoras administered the Discord server for Lazarus which lasted until Imki overthrew the Khanate, but I don't know if it's an illegality :unsure:

I believe it would be an illegality in its current form. You can not refer to Nationstates as a game, which this certainly implies.
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Postby The Python » Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:47 pm

Westinor wrote:
The Python wrote:Added PRAISING iv. which states that Altmoras administered the Discord server for Lazarus which lasted until Imki overthrew the Khanate, but I don't know if it's an illegality :unsure:
I believe it would be an illegality in its current form. You can not refer to Nationstates as a game, which this certainly implies.

I worded it as "Creating and administering communications off NationStates for Lazarus in 2016, which lasted until the fall of the illegitimate Khanate coup government of Lazarus,"
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Bhang Bhang Duc
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:53 pm

The Python wrote:
Westinor wrote:I believe it would be an illegality in its current form. You can not refer to Nationstates as a game, which this certainly implies.

No I worded it as "Creating and administering communications off NationStates for Lazarus in 2016, which lasted until the fall of the illegitimate Khanate coup government of Lazarus,"

Would still be illegal in its present form - how can you be “off NationStates”? NationStates is the multiverse we exist in so how can communications exist outside of it? Unless, of course, it’s a game.
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Postby The Python » Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:54 pm

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
The Python wrote:No I worded it as "Creating and administering communications off NationStates for Lazarus in 2016, which lasted until the fall of the illegitimate Khanate coup government of Lazarus,"

Would still be illegal in its present form - how can you be “off NationStates”? NationStates is the multiverse we exist in so how can communications exist outside of it? Unless, of course, it’s a game.

ok I guess I'll remove that bit then
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Bhang Bhang Duc
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:42 pm

The Python wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Would still be illegal in its present form - how can you be “off NationStates”? NationStates is the multiverse we exist in so how can communications exist outside of it? Unless, of course, it’s a game.

ok I guess I'll remove that bit then

No, just be creative. “Creating and managing secret channels of communication.....” would work.
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