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by Daarwyrth » Wed May 19, 2021 11:01 am
Illu-chi wrote:Darrwyth, the votes are not in favor of the reapeal. Can't you do something to turn the vote around? Have you ever thought of condemning big delegates who didn't vote "correctly"?
by Island Girl Herby » Wed May 19, 2021 12:07 pm
by Enjuku » Wed May 19, 2021 2:11 pm
by Illu-chi » Wed May 19, 2021 5:36 pm
Daarwyrth wrote:Illu-chi wrote:Darrwyth, the votes are not in favor of the reapeal. Can't you do something to turn the vote around? Have you ever thought of condemning big delegates who didn't vote "correctly"?
OOC: And why would I do something as immature as that? if the vote is not turning in my favour, then that's that. WA legislation is determined by the majority, the majority doesn't want GAR #527 repealed. So be it, I accept that decision and move on. I put in the effort to try to persuade voters with argumentation and reasonable debate, yet it was not enough. That's okay, that's how things work. Sometimes you get your way, most of the times not. And thus, I move on to other projects.
Besides, there's no "correct" way to vote. I believe in the arguments that I have provided in the repeal, but apparently a majority of the WA didn't. Tough luck for me, I'll do my best to come up with better argumentation next time. But just because someone votes differently than you want doesn't mean they voted incorrectly, or that the other way around is correct. The majority speaks, and that's that.
by Jedinsto » Wed May 19, 2021 5:42 pm
Its not immature. Its called being very desperate.
by Daarwyrth » Wed May 19, 2021 5:44 pm
Illu-chi wrote:Its not immature. Its called being very desperate.
Jedinsto wrote:Ummm... yeah it kinda is. What do you honestly think the reception to a GA regular going around writing condemnations of McM, Beepee, and Wischland over... how they voted on his proposal? I'll answer for you- people would start viewing Daar as an immature fool. I need you to understand that most people are not interested in being globally humiliated and viewed as a fool.
by Ardiveds » Wed May 19, 2021 6:26 pm
by Wallenburg » Wed May 19, 2021 6:42 pm
Illu-chi wrote:Its not immature. Its called being very desperate. Also I think the majority of the world assembly didn't understand the repeal and also didn't know anything about the replacement. A large percentage of the world assembly electorate doesn't do any research into the proposals either and are the type of people who are on nation states for a short amount of time then leave for the day. I think a good example is the commend northern Borland episode.
by Daarwyrth » Thu May 20, 2021 1:22 am
by Tinhampton » Thu May 20, 2021 3:59 am
by Masere » Fri May 21, 2021 1:31 am
Illu-chi wrote:Darrwyth, the votes are not in favor of the reapeal. Can't you do something to turn the vote around? Have you ever thought of condemning big delegates who didn't vote "correctly"?
by Daarwyrth » Fri May 21, 2021 3:50 am
by Sylh Alanor » Fri May 21, 2021 9:48 am
Illu-chi wrote:Also I think the majority of the world assembly didn't understand the repeal and also didn't know anything about the replacement. A large percentage of the world assembly electorate doesn't do any research into the proposals either and are the type of people who are on nation states for a short amount of time then leave for the day.
by Daarwyrth » Fri May 21, 2021 9:51 am
Sylh Alanor wrote:Illu-chi wrote:Also I think the majority of the world assembly didn't understand the repeal and also didn't know anything about the replacement. A large percentage of the world assembly electorate doesn't do any research into the proposals either and are the type of people who are on nation states for a short amount of time then leave for the day.
Given that the delegation from Daarwyrth sent no less than twelve telegrams explaining exactly what this proposal was about, it would be very impressive for the delegates voting against to still not understand it.
by Sylh Alanor » Fri May 21, 2021 10:02 am
Daarwyrth wrote:Sylh Alanor wrote:Given that the delegation from Daarwyrth sent no less than twelve telegrams explaining exactly what this proposal was about, it would be very impressive for the delegates voting against to still not understand it.
OOC: Twelve? As far as I know I sent 2 campaign telegrams during the approval phase (and during the last few hours a few targeted TGs to delegates that were online as a final push), and afterwards, during the vote, I sent 1 TG whether you'd be willing to hear my counter-arguments, which I sent with the hope to be able to convince a few delegates to vote 'for' instead. 12 is a vast exaggeration.
EDIT: There were 2 proposals mind you, yet the first one was ruled illegal due to an honest mistake during the approval phase, and thus there was a resubmission of a different draft. Obviously I sent a campaign telegram to notify delegates of the resubmission.
by Daarwyrth » Fri May 21, 2021 10:10 am
Sylh Alanor wrote:Daarwyrth wrote:OOC: Twelve? As far as I know I sent 2 campaign telegrams during the approval phase (and during the last few hours a few targeted TGs to delegates that were online as a final push), and afterwards, during the vote, I sent 1 TG whether you'd be willing to hear my counter-arguments, which I sent with the hope to be able to convince a few delegates to vote 'for' instead. 12 is a vast exaggeration.
EDIT: There were 2 proposals mind you, yet the first one was ruled illegal due to an honest mistake during the approval phase, and thus there was a resubmission of a different draft. Obviously I sent a campaign telegram to notify delegates of the resubmission.
OOC: Ah sorry for miscounting, but I have a screenshot here showing what my inbox looks like. Five telegrams were sent to me for this specific repeal, five were sent for your previous proposal, and then two so far have been sent for Prairies and Grasslands. Five is still a bit excessive fwiw, as you admitted in your first telegram for this proposal, stating you wouldn't repeat the excessive campaigning before going on to send exactly the same amount.
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