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Coronavirus Thread VI: Are We Nearly There Yet? (READ OP)

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Should your country require everyone who can receive a COVID-19 vaccine to actually receive it?

YES
159
53%
YES, BUT there should also be exceptions for philosophical and religious reasons
20
7%
NO, BUT EMPLOYERS SHOULD DO SO THEMSELVES
15
5%
NO, BUT people should be incentivised towards taking, and/or away from not taking, a COVID-19 vaccine (perhaps through lotteries, vaccine passports, etc.)
41
14%
NO
67
22%
 
Total votes : 302

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Coronavirus Thread VI: Are We Nearly There Yet? (READ OP)

Postby Tinhampton » Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:39 am

>>> BEFORE POSTING HERE: Read this post by Alfegos about vaccine side-effects and the name of COVID-19, as well as the below OP.

>>> WHERE CAN I LEARN MORE?
>>> WHAT HAS THE VIRUS DONE? At the start of 2020, coronavirus was merely a novel pneumonia that wasn't SARS but was most certainly being carried about by a smattering of people from Wuhan. Fast forward half a year about fifteen months and we've got 2.5 13.9 about 120 million cases, over 90% of the world's student population weren't going to school at one stage, EURO 2020's become EURO 2021 but it's still EURO 2020, Tokyo 2020's become Tokyo 2021 but it's still Tokyo 2020, the suspension of almost all sportsball ended up lasting for so long that the Ballon d'Or is off, the list of other events that have been cancelled are too numerous to reel off here, billions of people have been under lockdown at some stage, millions of people have also been vaccinated at some stage (mostly in rich countries) - need I go on?

>>> WHAT CAN I DO HERE? This is a catch-all coronavirus thread. You may now begin to grumble about it, but Please note! that Max Himself has stated that the moderators will issue bans against those who peddle misinformation such as "claim[s that] the virus is a government conspiracy, or that people should ignore expert medical advice," or that coronavirus vaccines are deadly, or that the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine is a bad invention - so please stay indoors if you can, wash your hands, keep at least two metres one metre one metre so as long as your business is COVID-Secure we're not sure how far but please cover your nose and mouth anyway errrrrrm some distance away from other people, and do continue to post here as you normally did (subject to the temporary edict, of course). OK, now you can start grumbling... yes, that includes continuing the grumbling about economic collapses from the fifth thread.

5th-9th April 2020 (246 voters): How scared are you of contracting coronavirus?
    I: Very scared: 24 (10%)
    II: Somewhat scared: 58 (24%)
    III: A bit scared: 73 (30%)
    IV: Not scared at all: 59 (24%)
    !: Been there, done that...: 8 (3%)
    Eh, whatever - I hope David Hasselhoff's safe: 24 (10%)

12th-17th April 2020 (263 voters): When do you think your area will lift all restrictions?
    I: Before the end of next month: 43 (16%)
    II: At some point in Summer 2020: 111 (42%)
    III: By the end of 2020: 58 (22%)
    IV: At some point in 2021: 24 (9%)
    !: Never - get used to the new normal...: 25 (10%)
    My state/country has not yet imposed any restrictions: 2 (<1%)

3rd May-20th July 2020 (682 voters): Have you or anyone in your vincinity been affected by COVID-19?
    I don't know anyone who has been diagnosed with COVID-19: 300 (44%)
    I know someone was diagnosed with COVID-19: 159 (23%)
    Someone very close to me was diagnosed with COVID-19: 42 (6%)
    I know someone who was hospitalized with COVID-19: 62 (9%)
    Someone very close to me was hospitalized with COVID-19: 30 (4%)
    I was diagnosed with COVID-19: 23 (3%)
    I was hospitalized with COVID-19: 9 (1%)
    I don't know/unsure/other: 57 (8%)

No thread poll for Coronavirus Thread V

17th March-7th August 2021 (845 voters): Have you been vaccinated?
    YES, I have been fully vaccinated (the Janssen vaccine or both doses of any other vaccine): 264 (31.24%)
    YES, BUT I have only received the first of two doses: 125 (15%)
    NO, BUT I will get the vaccine when I am offered a date to get it: 260 (30.77%)
    NO, AND I CAN'T: 65 (8%)
    NO, AND I DON'T WANT TO: 131 (16%)
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Postby Sengoku Americas » Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:40 am

I do hope Tokyo 2020 can be held, but vaccination progress seems to make it unlikely.
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Postby Islands Of Ventro » Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:42 am

Why are you appearing everywhere with this weird text? Is this spam.

Also ye I want Tokyo 2021
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Postby Whitemore » Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:43 am

Islands Of Ventro wrote:Why are you appearing everywhere with this weird text? Is this spam.

Also ye I want Tokyo 2021


It is spam, just ignore it. Staff will get rid of him soon.
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Postby CoraSpia » Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:43 am

Could the poll be changed to separate people who can't get vaccinated from people who don't want to be?
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Postby Picairn » Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:43 am

Wow Tin, you are fast.
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Postby Dorylaeumnia » Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:44 am

I didn't know that you could add font colour to poll questions.

Well, thanks for that then.
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Postby Esalia » Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:44 am

Ah, a fresh thread.

Also, the question for the third poll in the previous polls bit of the OP seems to be wrong.
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Postby Torisakia » Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:47 am

I received an email (that I confirmed to be legitimate) from the local university hospital saying that I am eligible to receive the COVID-19 vaccine and I could sign up to be added to the pool of patients that are selected at random to get said vaccine. While this is all fine and good, I work (or used to work as I quit recently) at a department-type store so I assume that counts as retail but on their sign up form there was no category for "retail worker" in the occupation drop-down list and the closest I could find was "grocery store worker". My main concern is putting my name in the pool when I'm not actually eligible and taking up a spot that someone who is eligible and deserves the vaccine more.

These are confusing times.
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Postby Whitemore » Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:50 am

Torisakia wrote:I received an email (that I confirmed to be legitimate) from the local university hospital saying that I am eligible to receive the COVID-19 vaccine and I could sign up to be added to the pool of patients that are selected at random to get said vaccine. While this is all fine and good, I work (or used to work as I quit recently) at a department-type store so I assume that counts as retail but on their sign up form there was no category for "retail worker" in the occupation drop-down list and the closest I could find was "grocery store worker". My main concern is putting my name in the pool when I'm not actually eligible and taking up a spot that someone who is eligible and deserves the vaccine more.

These are confusing times.


You could probably call the University hospital and ask for clarification on this, I'm sure they'd get it all sorted out.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:57 am

Kinarkaarittscotinetland wrote:
Whitemore wrote:
You could probably call the University hospital and ask for clarification on this, I'm sure they'd get it all sorted out.
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Postby Theberstan » Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:00 am

Hopefully very, very soon.

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Postby Torisakia » Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:00 am

Whitemore wrote:
Torisakia wrote:I received an email (that I confirmed to be legitimate) from the local university hospital saying that I am eligible to receive the COVID-19 vaccine and I could sign up to be added to the pool of patients that are selected at random to get said vaccine. While this is all fine and good, I work (or used to work as I quit recently) at a department-type store so I assume that counts as retail but on their sign up form there was no category for "retail worker" in the occupation drop-down list and the closest I could find was "grocery store worker". My main concern is putting my name in the pool when I'm not actually eligible and taking up a spot that someone who is eligible and deserves the vaccine more.

These are confusing times.


You could probably call the University hospital and ask for clarification on this, I'm sure they'd get it all sorted out.

I'll try and call tomorrow since I believe they're closed today due to the threat of deadly twisters.
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Postby Theberstan » Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:00 am

Torisakia wrote:
Whitemore wrote:
You could probably call the University hospital and ask for clarification on this, I'm sure they'd get it all sorted out.

I'll try and call tomorrow since I believe they're closed today due to the threat of deadly twisters.

Oh, yeah. I heard about that.

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Postby Drew Durrnil » Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:03 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
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Postby Picairn » Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:06 am

Ethel mermania wrote:This is an English language site, except in specific language sites, which you are more than welcome to set up.. Please use English in these other threads, thanx

You might want to delete that stuff, it's very offensive towards the mods. The guy is begging to be DEATed.
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Postby CoraSpia » Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:11 am

Picairn wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:This is an English language site, except in specific language sites, which you are more than welcome to set up.. Please use English in these other threads, thanx

You might want to delete that stuff, it's very offensive towards the mods. The guy is begging to be DEATed.

Well it's not offensive towards them, it's just annoying as it makes their jobs harder. He'll be gone soon.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:16 am

CoraSpia wrote:
Picairn wrote:You might want to delete that stuff, it's very offensive towards the mods. The guy is begging to be DEATed.

Well it's not offensive towards them, it's just annoying as it makes their jobs harder. He'll be gone soon.

instead of discussing a DOS can we continue from where we left of last thread?

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Postby Ifreann » Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:16 am

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Ifreann wrote:You said that Germany's policy had failed and they need a new one. Their policy is to vaccinate people. If you don't have a problem with vaccinating people then explain what you mean.


In much of Europe we've avoided the massive death toll seen in America because we've been willing to have lockdowns.


Good, that should keep cases down while vaccinations proceed.


They did not secure anywhere near enough vaccines and have a massive shortage and are rolling it out at a snails pace.

The German government can't really do anything about AstraZeneca not being able to meet the purchase order placed by the EU.

And as the populous grows increasingly frustrated and defiant as their economy crumbles because their is no plan to end the lockdown the government should just ignore the suffering of the people and say deal with it? Because that's what they are doing.

Again, you have been saying for a year that the economy will collapse any moment now, and here we are, the economy has not collapsed. The economy is not being damaged as much as you have long predicted it would be, and more importantly, people are surviving this pandemic when millions more would have died if it had been up to you.
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Postby Kannap » Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:18 am

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Ifreann wrote:You said the same thing about the economy collapsing a year ago and look, the economy is still here. You've been predicting doom for twelve months now and you've been wrong every single time. You should probably give up this anti-lockdown crusade.


I think it's worse that unlike rando Trump fans, Lumen knows covid is dangerous. So he knows and he still wants to reopen everything now.


Lumen's crusaded for reopening everything since March 2020, all while knowing the seriousness and danger of this virus. It's startling, really.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:18 am

Ifreann wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
They did not secure anywhere near enough vaccines and have a massive shortage and are rolling it out at a snails pace.

The German government can't really do anything about AstraZeneca not being able to meet the purchase order placed by the EU.

And as the populous grows increasingly frustrated and defiant as their economy crumbles because their is no plan to end the lockdown the government should just ignore the suffering of the people and say deal with it? Because that's what they are doing.

Again, you have been saying for a year that the economy will collapse any moment now, and here we are, the economy has not collapsed. The economy is not being damaged as much as you have long predicted it would be, and more importantly, people are surviving this pandemic when millions more would have died if it had been up to you.


really? over 1000 restaurants have closed in New York and nearly two thirds of one of the largest entertainment industry jobs are gone. They wont bounce back so quickly.

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Postby Loeje » Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:19 am

Kannap wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
I think it's worse that unlike rando Trump fans, Lumen knows covid is dangerous. So he knows and he still wants to reopen everything now.


Lumen's crusaded for reopening everything since March 2020, all while knowing the seriousness and danger of this virus. It's startling, really.

I don't know if it's possible to want to reopen everything while understanding the danger.
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Postby Caleonia » Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:20 am

Unrelated but I’m just posting for the notifications; I don’t really think I could take another lockdown. Like, at all.
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Postby CoraSpia » Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:20 am

Loeje wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Lumen's crusaded for reopening everything since March 2020, all while knowing the seriousness and danger of this virus. It's startling, really.

I don't know if it's possible to want to reopen everything while understanding the danger.

It is, I've been doing it from the start.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:24 am

San Lumen wrote:
Ifreann wrote:The German government can't really do anything about AstraZeneca not being able to meet the purchase order placed by the EU.


Again, you have been saying for a year that the economy will collapse any moment now, and here we are, the economy has not collapsed. The economy is not being damaged as much as you have long predicted it would be, and more importantly, people are surviving this pandemic when millions more would have died if it had been up to you.


really? over 1000 restaurants have closed in New York and nearly two thirds of one of the largest entertainment industry jobs are gone. They wont bounce back so quickly.

And as we all well know, you predicted economic collapse and out of control hyperinflation and the end of all joy and happiness in the world. None of which has happened. You said there would be no entertainment industry at all. A year later there still is an entertainment industry. You were wrong.
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