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Dirauti
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[DRAFT] International Genealogical Record Preservation Act

Postby Dirauti » Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:42 am

International Genealogical Record Preservation Act

The World Assembly,
Believing the importance of people to know their descendance,
And the preservation of records pertaining to such descendance to be important for purposes pertaining to historical accuracy and knowledge,
Hereby proposes the following:
a) Establish the International Organization of Genealogical Records (IOGR), which shall perform the following:
a. Maintain genealogical trees for all families internationally online and written down.
b. Ensure the compliance of WA member nations by this Act.
b) All Member Nations shall be required to establish a National Genealogical Record Preservation Administration (NGRP), which shall gather and preserve gathered genealogical records.
c) Require all citizens and immigrants to supply names of all known relatives to the NGRP of that nation.
d) The NGRP’s of all nations shall supply all records to the IOGR for processing and genealogical tree placement.
e) Minimum preservation conditions of records shall include:
a. Dry space
b. Alphabetical ordering
c. Records in page protectors, or some other sort of preservation system that maintains the current condition of the records from all possible happenstance apart from age.
d. Periodical checking of records for age damage, upon which the record shall be copied.
e. Translations to any language available in the record housing
f. Complete and easy public access to all records
f) Any nation that does not comply by this Act shall be subject to fines proportional to the population of the nation (57%)
The preservation of genealogical records is important to the historical preservation of knowledge for descendancy.
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Postby Jedinsto » Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:44 am

The idea is definitely interesting, but you can't say "hereby proposes," you'd have to say something like "hereby enacts the following, and you have to do more than establish a committee. Even if it was legal, overall, I'm opposed. Private citizens and companies can take care of this.
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Postby Dirauti » Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:52 am

Jedinsto wrote:The idea is definitely interesting, but you can't say "hereby proposes," you'd have to say something like "hereby enacts the following, and you have to do more than establish a committee. Even if it was legal, overall, I'm opposed. Private citizens and companies can take care of this.

True, but not everyone does, and I'm not sure what reason a private company would have to do so (unless they perhaps made it paid). The idea here is to make it mandated internationally, and have an international database that anyone with a device and internet can search (and since also written down, look at if they don't). Being free is also a goal of it. I will however change the language I have there if I do propose it to the WA.

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Postby Bigpipstan » Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:59 am

This would be hard to establish for nations where the usesage of internet is minimal or the goverment doesn't collect much information about it's citizens.
The anocratic empire of Bigpipstan and Slime nation of New order of Equus are hereby against this proposal.

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Postby Ardiveds » Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:00 pm

OOC: What exactly is the purpose of this? I mean other than recording information for tbe sake of recording information. Genealogical date a certain population is one thing but how exactly is a detailed genealogy of every individual helpful?

Second, When you say "written down", do you mean physcially with pen and paper?

Third, isn't forcing every citizen to supply names of all known relatives a bit draconian?

Lastly, again, why is knowledge of descendancy so important? The only reasons I can think of are unethical eugenics and state-sanctioned marriages, neither of which sound good.
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Postby Dirauti » Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:06 pm

Ardiveds wrote:OOC: What exactly is the purpose of this? I mean other than recording information for tbe sake of recording information. Genealogical date a certain population is one thing but how exactly is a detailed genealogy of every individual helpful?

Second, When you say "written down", do you mean physcially with pen and paper?

Third, isn't forcing every citizen to supply names of all known relatives a bit draconian?

Lastly, again, why is knowledge of descendancy so important? The only reasons I can think of are unethical eugenics and state-sanctioned marriages, neither of which sound good.

1. Yes, written down with pen and paper (I'll revise the language to make it more clear)
2. I may add a clause that states the government of each nation cannot use the supplied information for purposes of surveillance, investigation (etc, etc. I'll iron it out more before proposing)
3. I may change the language on that a bit as well, it's not so much as important as it is a service for citizens. However, the data could be used for purposes of statistical reporting (based on where a person's family came from or something like that).

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Postby Dirauti » Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:09 pm

Bigpipstan wrote:This would be hard to establish for nations where the usesage of internet is minimal or the goverment doesn't collect much information about it's citizens.
The anocratic empire of Bigpipstan and Slime nation of New order of Equus are hereby against this proposal.


The point is to mandate the collection of familial data about citizens for genealogical use (and statistical), and I think I need to make clear the data collection is online AND physical (like a mailed form or something of the sort).

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Postby Ardiveds » Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:26 pm

Dirauti wrote:1. Yes, written down with pen and paper (I'll revise the language to make it more clear)
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OOC: and what exactly is the rationale behind wasting massive amounts of resources and manpower painstakingly writing such an absurdly massive amount of data? While some members might be stuck in the middle ages, the WA most definitely isn't. You are already taking something that irl is done by private companies all the time and making it needlessly inefficient.
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Postby Dirauti » Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:41 pm

Ardiveds wrote:
Dirauti wrote:1. Yes, written down with pen and paper (I'll revise the language to make it more clear)
.

OOC: and what exactly is the rationale behind wasting massive amounts of resources and manpower painstakingly writing such an absurdly massive amount of data? While some members might be stuck in the middle ages, the WA most definitely isn't. You are already taking something that irl is done by private companies all the time and making it needlessly inefficient.


True, private companies do collect and store data online. However, some records are not online, and instead of having to search through several different companies (possibly) to find a piece of data, you can search an international database with everything in it. Also, apologies for my lack of clear language there, I thought we were using "pen and paper" as a metaphor for having it on hand on paper. Of course, data could be typed and printed, not just written down. Also, all of the recording is done by the NGRP's for each nation, not the IOGR. That means the IOGR is really just taking the already collected data and organizing and maintaining it.
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Postby Astrobolt » Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:56 pm

OOC: What is the advantage of collecting familial data, as in what public interest does it serve?
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Postby Dirauti » Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:58 pm

Astrobolt wrote:OOC: What is the advantage of collecting familial data, as in what public interest does it serve?


People who want to know their ancestral history can do so easily, and governments can possibly use information like this for statistical analysis/reporting

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Postby Jedinsto » Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:26 pm

can you, like, draft it, before submitting it, 3 times.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:35 pm

Dirauti wrote:
Astrobolt wrote:OOC: What is the advantage of collecting familial data, as in what public interest does it serve?


People who want to know their ancestral history can do so easily, and governments can possibly use information like this for statistical analysis/reporting

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