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What do you do?

I would attempt to stop the robber using my super powers to prevent the robbery
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"I missed the part where that's my problem"
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:57 am

Please consider the following hypothetical:

You are a teenager who suddenly gets very strong physical super powers.

You see an ad in the papers that says there will be a fighting tournament for 3,000 USD.

You went to the fight and manage to win the tournament, taking down the champion (the technical rules were that you were supposed to survive in the cage match for a set time).

However, when you go to the manager's office to get the money, the manager only gives you 100 dollars. He says to you: "You were supposed to hang in there for a few minutes not tear him apart. You're lucky to even get 100."

You tell him you really need the money but he says to you: "I missed the part where that's my problem."

Looking annoyed, you turn around and leave just as a robber enters with a gun. After you're gone, the robber takes all of the manager's money.

As you reach the elevator, you see the robber running away with a bag of money, being chased by the manager and a security guard.

Your choices:

Option 1: Use your super powers and take down the robber to prevent the robbery

Option 2: Let the robber get past you. When the manager asks you you tell him, "I missed the part where that's my problem."

(in this scenario, there is no Uncle Ben)

What do you do? What is your justification? Explain.

I would allow the robber to get past. He has a gun (so there is a probability I get shot if I acted, super powers or no super powers). Also, I would be very angry at the manager and would want him to suffer some consequence. Furthermore, there is no legal obligation to stop the robber; that is not my job but rather, the domain of the police.
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Postby Zul-ar » Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:59 am

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Postby Honeydewistania » Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:03 am

I'd let the robber get past me because I don't want to get shot and killed, not as a middle finger to the manager. The technical rules said I had to last the fight. I broke that rule, so yes I am lucky that I'm getting money in the first place.
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Postby Fenwick Foundation » Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:04 am

I missed the part where that's my problem. 8)
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Postby Glorious Hong Kong » Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:10 am

No Uncle Ben. No one dies. I let the robber run past the manager.

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:13 am

I'll overpower the robber and take the money.
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Postby Northern Socialist Council Republics » Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:15 am

The right thing to do would be to try and stop the robbery.

Unfortunately for the manager, I have healthy self-preservation instincts and care about my self-interest more than I care about morality. I’m loyal to those who are loyal to me and this hypothetical manager just hypothetically cheated me out of $2,900 on a technicality.
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Postby Atheris » Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:48 am

Treat others the way you want to be treated. I'd punt that fucker.

Edit: The robber, not the manager. I'd certainly want to hurt the manager, but the robber's the bigger threat and the bigger asshole.
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Back when I was younger I probably would have let him slide.
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Postby Catsfern » Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:55 am

Is beating up the thief and taking the money yourself an option?
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Postby Comerciante » Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:57 am

Now while I would like to imagine that I have the morale integrity of being above petty revenge.

I don't.

The right thing to do considering my abilities is to stop the dude, but the manager fucked with my profits. Nobody fucks with my profits. I may have let the manager go but I'm not gonna put out for the dude just after he fucked with my profits.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:15 am

Catsfern wrote:Is beating up the thief and taking the money yourself an option?


Wouldn’t this be robbery?

I thought under the law if you want the prize money you would have to sue for it etc

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Postby GruffyRichard and HillbillyBob » Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:18 am

I would let the robber go. It's the manager's problem, and also I won the money on a technicality and he didn't give it to me. Maybe if he had, he wouldn't have been robbed. So there. I will not help him because he just stiffed me.

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Postby Heloin » Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:20 am

I already took the money from the guy before the robber did.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:22 am

Since there is no uncle Ben I let him get away. It’s what he deserves.

Although if I stop him maybe the manager will give me the money for doing the right thing.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:25 am

Heloin wrote:I already took the money from the guy before the robber did.

Pretty much this,

he promised me 3 grand for beating some one up, I get 100 bucks for tearing the guy apart, I got 2,900 more in beatings to administer. Plus pain and suffering, so that's 9 grand I am ripping out of his hide. He didn't need his liver anyway.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:25 am

San Lumen wrote:Since there is no uncle Ben I let him get away. It’s what he deserves.

Although if I stop him maybe the manager will give me the money for doing the right thing.


Maybe :)

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Postby Kannap » Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:26 am

Odd choice to remove Uncle Ben from the equation since it removes any conflict. The robber is just going to get away without harming anybody - hasn't harmed the manager or the security guard? Run Forrest Run!

You've essentially created a trolley problem but the twist is "you can divert the trolley onto a line where there's nobody tied to the tracks"
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:27 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Catsfern wrote:Is beating up the thief and taking the money yourself an option?


Wouldn’t this be robbery?

I thought under the law if you want the prize money you would have to sue for it etc


Possibly, and who is robbing whom would be a question.
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Postby Heloin » Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:27 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Heloin wrote:I already took the money from the guy before the robber did.

Pretty much this,

he promised me 3 grand for beating some one up, I get 100 bucks for tearing the guy apart, I got 2,900 more in beatings to administer. Plus pain and suffering, so that's 9 grand I am ripping out of his hide. He didn't need his liver anyway.

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:31 am

Kannap wrote:Odd choice to remove Uncle Ben from the equation since it removes any conflict. The robber is just going to get away without harming anybody - hasn't harmed the manager or the security guard? Run Forrest Run!

You've essentially created a trolley problem but the twist is "you can divert the trolley onto a line where there's nobody tied to the tracks"


The removal of Uncle Ben as a premise is to help facilitate balanced options.

If there was an Uncle Ben, then the whole thing could be sidetracked by “well I’m not going to let Uncle Ben die” which conflicts with the intended trade offs

In this hypothetical, the general conflict is still there in that by letting the robber go, he would presumably (if not caught) commit more crimes against innocents etc

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Postby Heloin » Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:34 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Kannap wrote:Odd choice to remove Uncle Ben from the equation since it removes any conflict. The robber is just going to get away without harming anybody - hasn't harmed the manager or the security guard? Run Forrest Run!

You've essentially created a trolley problem but the twist is "you can divert the trolley onto a line where there's nobody tied to the tracks"


The removal of Uncle Ben as a premise is to help facilitate balanced options.

If there was an Uncle Ben, then the whole thing could be sidetracked by “well I’m not going to let Uncle Ben die” which conflicts with the intended trade offs

In this hypothetical, the general conflict is still there in that by letting the robber go, he would presumably (if not caught) commit more crimes against innocents etc

It means the only reason left for stopping the robber is to help the people who robbed you.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:35 am

Heloin wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
The removal of Uncle Ben as a premise is to help facilitate balanced options.

If there was an Uncle Ben, then the whole thing could be sidetracked by “well I’m not going to let Uncle Ben die” which conflicts with the intended trade offs

In this hypothetical, the general conflict is still there in that by letting the robber go, he would presumably (if not caught) commit more crimes against innocents etc

It means the only reason left for stopping the robber is to help the people who robbed you.


It depends.

Some people may be concerned about the robber harming other parties down the road (though no Uncle Ben). The robber would remain a threat and a force of unlawfulness.

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:40 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Wouldn’t this be robbery?

I thought under the law if you want the prize money you would have to sue for it etc


Possibly, and who is robbing whom would be a question.


Under the law can I take what I believe on clear facts is owed to me without going to court or the government first?

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Postby Heloin » Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:40 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Heloin wrote:It means the only reason left for stopping the robber is to help the people who robbed you.


It depends.

Some people may be concerned about the robber harming other parties down the road (though no Uncle Ben). The robber would remain a threat and a force of unlawfulness.

I'm not going to curb stomp a dude because because of his potential future and I'm not going to stop him from robbing the people who robbed me.
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