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[DRAFT #1] Ending Violence In Politics

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Tinhampton
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[DRAFT #1] Ending Violence In Politics

Postby Tinhampton » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:55 pm

Character count: 181
Word count: 33
IC: Please take up your quibbles with Heather Surridge, Young Tinhamptonian Activist of the Year 2020, who claims to have concocted what you see below on the back of a notepad in the space of "about seven or eight minutes." The below draft is largely experimental and does not necessarily reflect the opinion of Delegate-Ambassador Alexander Smith.

OOC: Inspired by this petition by the Fawcett Society's now ex-CEO (see also this article), which 94,000 people have signed. Ninety-four thousand!
OOC 2: This resolution is deliberately brief, in the spirit of HR#56 "BioRights Declaration."
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Ending Violence in Politics
A resolution to restrict political freedoms in the interest of law and order.
Category: Political Stability
Effect: Mild
Proposed by: Tinhampton

No member state may permit anyone who has threatened or been convicted of rape, murder, a war crime, a crime against humanity, or a crime against peace to run for any public office.
The Self-Administrative City of TINHAMPTON (pop. 319,372): Saffron Howard, Mayor (UCP); Alexander Smith, WA Delegate-Ambassador

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Honeydewistania
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Postby Honeydewistania » Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:37 pm

Tinhampton wrote:
Character count: 181
Word count: 33
IC: Please take up your quibbles with Heather Surridge, Young Tinhamptonian Activist of the Year 2020, who claims to have concocted what you see below on the back of a notepad in the space of "about seven or eight minutes." The below draft is largely experimental and does not necessarily reflect the opinion of Delegate-Ambassador Alexander Smith.

OOC: Inspired by this petition by the Fawcett Society's now ex-CEO (see also this article), which 94,000 people have signed. Ninety-four thousand!
OOC 2: This resolution is deliberately brief, in the spirit of HR#56 "BioRights Declaration."
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Ending Violence in Politics
A resolution to restrict political freedoms in the interest of law and order.
Category: Political Stability
Effect: Mild
Proposed by: Tinhampton

No member state may permit anyone who has threatened or been convicted of rape, murder, a war crime, a crime against humanity, or a crime against peace to run for any public office.


Why is this needed? Justify your rationale via a preamble please Ms Surridge
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The Langburn Islands
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby The Langburn Islands » Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:53 am

"The Commonwealth of The Langburn Islands is opposed to this proposal.

It is understandable seeking to ban those who have been convicted of serious, violent criminal offences from holding elected office. However, barring individuals who have 'threatened' the criminal offences is a clear breach of due process in that the proposal fails to provide a mechanism to determine who and who isn't restricted from holding public office. If an individual idly threatens another individual with a casual, meaningless "I'm going to kill you Shane", should the individual be barred from holding public office under this proposal? If an individual with no political power or position in the Government of the Langburn Islands stupidly threatens to invade the Self-Administrative City of Tinhampton, should that individual be barred from holding elected office in the Langburn Islands? The wording of this clause of the proposal is dangerously vague.

We request that Ms Surridge drastically improves the proposal however we will vote against the proposal regardless".

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Old Hope
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Postby Old Hope » Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:39 am

The Langburn Islands wrote:"The Commonwealth of The Langburn Islands is opposed to this proposal.

It is understandable seeking to ban those who have been convicted of serious, violent criminal offences from holding elected office. However, barring individuals who have 'threatened' the criminal offences is a clear breach of due process in that the proposal fails to provide a mechanism to determine who and who isn't restricted from holding public office. If an individual idly threatens another individual with a casual, meaningless "I'm going to kill you Shane", should the individual be barred from holding public office under this proposal? If an individual with no political power or position in the Government of the Langburn Islands stupidly threatens to invade the Self-Administrative City of Tinhampton, should that individual be barred from holding elected office in the Langburn Islands? The wording of this clause of the proposal is dangerously vague.

We request that Ms Surridge drastically improves the proposal however we will vote against the proposal regardless".

Her Excellency Susana Arias
Ambassador to the World Assembly
The Commonwealth of The Langburn Islands

Especially if the person was involuntarily unable to make sound decisions at that time. Yes, we agree. Against.

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Jedinsto
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Postby Jedinsto » Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:55 am

Preamble?
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Postby CoraSpia » Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:35 am

"What if the person in question won an appeal later down the line? Whatever the answer is, the Haven opposes. We're...a Haven, we mean that literally. We accept anybody and we don't generally take foreign convictions into account."
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Island Girl Herby
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Island Girl Herby » Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:12 am

This is silly. So if I threaten to raise holy hell in response to this draft, that’s a threat to disturb the peace, ain’t it?

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Jedinsto
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Postby Jedinsto » Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:16 am

"This would allow the listed criminals to hold offices that are appointed, rather than elected, or to lead a coup d'etat."
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:28 am

Against. Thermodolia decides who gets to run for office in Thermodolia not the WA
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Ardiveds
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Postby Ardiveds » Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:06 pm

"What is 'crime against peace'?"
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Postby Wayneactia » Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:18 am

Let's not and say we didn't mmkay?


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