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A Second Rome [AH/OOC/OPEN]

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A SECOND ROME - AN ALTERNATE HISTORY ROLEPLAY

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While it cannot be denied that history oft seems to follow along certain paths, it also cannot be denied that the way through which history flows can be a tricky thing.

Napoleon Bonaparte did not depart from Corsica, having been born and raised there by his father, Carlo. Instead, he went to the heart of the Republic of Genoa, inspired by the French Revolution and thinking that the Genoese Republic could use a transformation of its own. Working with various French Revolutionaries and officials, along with assistance from those sympathetic to his cause, Napoleon Bonaparte led his own sort of revolution within Genoa; removing those from power who could not be trusted with it, and gaining the loyalty of those who could be bought.

Utilizing the revolutionary fervor within northern Italy, Napoleon proclaimed that his goal was now the unification of Italy under a single banner. Garnering further support through his sheer charisma and more territory through his battle prowess, the Italian Republic was forged throughout the northern parts of Italy after Napoleon delivered crushing defeat after crushing defeat to the Austrians and others. Using the Genoese navy, along with some other converted merchant ships, young Bonaparte took the Kingdom of Naples next.

And that's when it started: the people of the City of Rome, within the Papal States, began to whisper an old title - Caesar. Pope Pius VII was somehow convinced to legitimize the cause of Napoleon Bonaparte, and so the Papal States joined the fledgling Italian Republic with assurances from its President Bonaparte that it would not lose any influence. And so, after nearly a decade, the Italian Republic was unified at last.

The French Republic, however, was in dire straits. And so it was that Napoleon Bonaparte used the Italian Republic's growing influence and power to tear into the various enemies of the Revolution, as well as saving the French Republic from total collapse. As time went on, Napoleon's popularity among the peoples of Italy grew until Napoleon accepted the title of Caesar in addition to his title of President; the Republic was now predominantly in name only, and many felt that this was the return of the Roman Empire, with Napoleon Bonaparte being Julius Caesar made flesh once more.

And then, in 1850, the President-Caesar died - and so the Empire became official, with the “election” by popular demand and military force of Napoleon II, who was now Emperor of the Romans - officially acknowledged and anointed as such by Pope Pius IX. European nations across the continent felt the roar of approval of those under the influence or direct rule of the Roman Empire reborn, even as it waged holy war against the Ottomans in the east and continued to support its allies, puppet or otherwise, in the west.

The Year is now 1900, as the century turns. Emperor Napoleon II is aging on, even as the Empire's reborn glory seems to wane. Napoleon IV, the heir-apparent to the Emperor as he had no children of his own, is preparing to officially annex the Empire's various puppet states in order to bolster the Empire's strength and ensure its enemies do not believe it to be weakening.

Where do you stand, in the age of a Second Rome?





Hello! And welcome to A Second Rome. This AH RP takes place in an alternate world where Napoleon was the savior and de facto emperor of Italy rather than of France, giving rise to a second Roman Empire in the aftermath of his death.

While this RP's timeline might seem mildly shakey and uncertain in terms of likelihood, I ask you to set aside any qualms for the time being to instead partake in it. This is, after all, Alternate History - some lacking of realism is, to some degree, required. With that in mind, I am willing to accept some lack of realism when it comes to other nations and their histories - as long as it is not egregious.

THE RULES:
I. I am Thy OP, MY WORD IS LAW.
II. No Godmodding, Metagaming, etc.
III. All other standard RP Etiquette is required!
IV. Realism is slightly looser than usual, but I will put my foot down on advanced tech or steampunk or what-have-you. Keep the time period and established history in mind.
V. Do not summon the wrath of the NS Mods. NS Rules Apply. That means keep it PG-13 and stuff, folks!
VI. Have fun!





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NATION APPLICATION

The Imperial Flag.
L'Impero Romano
Imperium Romanorum
The Roman Empire
The Empire of the Romans
The Second Rome
Rome
The Imperial Republic of the Italians (unofficially/unacknowledged; usually used by enemies)


Government Type: De jure Constitutional Monarchy with Republican features; De facto Bonapartist dictatorship/oligarchy and absolute monarchy.
Head of State: Napoleon II, Emperor of the Romans (de jure); Napoleon IV, the Prince Imperial (de facto)
Head of Government: See HOS; though, technically, the Consulate is de jure supposed to execute, it is de facto an executive advisory council.
Capital: Rome.
Population: Approx. 40 million (excluding puppet states/territories); Approx. 170 million (if all territories were assimilated).
Military Population: Approx. 1.2 million.
Allies: Most of the Empire's allies are found in its puppet states; outside of that, the Empire predominantly stands alone, but tries to have neutrality with powers where possible.
Enemies: Britain, Prussia, Russia.
History: Established in OP.
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Dramatis Personae:

- The Roman Empire [Played by Op]
-- The Kingdom of Spain [ROMAN PUPPET; OPEN]
-- The French Republic [ROMAN PUPPET; OPEN]
-- The Swiss Confederation [ROMAN PUPPET; OPEN]
-- The Austro-Bavarian Confederation [ROMAN PUPPET; OPEN]
-- The Byzantine State [ROMAN PUPPET; OPEN]
-- The Republic of the Levant [ROMAN PUPPET; OPEN]

- The Chinese Empire [Played by Sao Nova Europa]

- The Russian Empire [Played by Monsone]

- The Britannic Empire [Played by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]
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Now open.

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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:43 pm

This is awesome. I need a night of sleep to think over the possibilities (and see what nations other people swipe in the meantime) but I will get back to you.
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Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:This is awesome. I need a night of sleep to think over the possibilities (and see what nations other people swipe in the meantime) but I will get back to you.


Welcome! Looking forward to seeing what you come up with.

Please do consider joining the Discord.

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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Sun Feb 21, 2021 4:37 pm

Claims (Qing China + Vietnam). Expect app soon.

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- Guo Jing ‘The Brave Archer’.

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"Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat."
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Postby Monsone » Sun Feb 21, 2021 5:13 pm

See the map below for the claims:



App coming soon. I'm already on the Discord.
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Empire of China

Government Type: Constitutional Monarchy
Head of State: Guangxu Emperor

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Head of Government: Prime Minister Sun Yat Sen

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Capital: Beijing
Population: 420,000,000
Military Population: 560,000 (professional standing army)
Allies:

China has been trying to foster closer ties with the Roman Empire as a countermeasure to Japan and Russia. At the same time, China also maintains diplomatic connections with the United States, in order to not rely too much on one power.

Enemies:

Japan (primarily), Russia (possibly, though no active antagonism)

History:

1. In 1787, Lê Chiêu Thống, the last ruler of the Vietnamese Lê dynasty, fled from Vietnam and formally requested to be restored to his throne in Thăng Long (present-day Hanoi). The Qianlong Emperor agreed and sent a large army into Vietnam, under the Mongol general Tögs-Ochiryn, to remove the Tây Sơn (peasant rebels who had captured all of Vietnam). Tögs-Ochiryn managed to conquer much of the north of the country. The tropical conditions though and the irregular attacks by Vietnamese peasants forced the Qing army to retreat. Almost 20,000 men had perished. A second invasion was launched in 1789 that also ended in disaster.

Finally, in 1791, a third invasion was launched under general Huang Dao. This time, it was a combined land and naval invasion. The number of land troops mobilized reached 160,000. By 1792, Vietnam had been pacified. Instead of restoring Lê Chiêu Thống, Qianlong chose to annex Vietnam into the Qing Dynasty. After hundreds of years of independence, Vietnam was finally once again a Chinese dominion. Lê Chiêu Thống was strangled and three revolts in 1793, 1795 and 1799 were brutally put down. Widespread massacres were followed by Chinese colonization of the region, as Qianlong found a chance to solve social problems caused by an ever increasing population.

As the Chinese hold on Vietnam was stabilized, in the next decades Qing would expand into Cambodia and Laos. Cambodia was incorporated in 1827 and Laos in 1836. This expansion was a long-term process. Initially, the Qing established themselves as mere overlords, soon turning the regional monarchs into client kings of the Qing state. Then, outposts (both civil and military) were established. Finally, the two regions were incorporated into the normal provincial administration once Qing hold had been solidified.

2. After the death of the Qianlong Emperor in the beginning of February 1799, the Jiaqing Emperor took control of the government and prosecuted Heshen, a favorite official of his father. Heshen was charged with corruption and abuse of power, stripped of his titles, had his property confiscated, and ordered to commit suicide. But the damage Heshen had done was widespread; the treasury was empty and social discontent high. The large-scale White Lotus (1796–1804) and Miao (1795–1806) rebellions shook the empire and showed its weakness.

In order to restore sound finances, confidence in the dynasty and centralized control, the Jiaqing Emperor appointed a reformist scholar named Guo Jing as Chancellor of the Grand Council, Qing's top governmental body. Guo Jing was the first Han Chinese appointed to that post, in an institution dominated by the Manchus. Such was Jiaqing's desperation. His trust in Guo Jing wasn't misplaced. He reformed the tax system, instituting new taxes on rich merchants and big landowners. He enacted a broad land redistributing program to give farm to tenants and landless peasants, much to the dismay of many large landowners. Regional revolts by the dissatisfied gentry were crushed. Guo Jing used the revenue from the increased taxation to invest in much needed infrastructure updates, such as new canals and roads.

3. The Daoguang Emperor ruled from 1820 to 1850. His reign saw significant reforms in the military. Daoguang had to face early in his reign a war with Russia and the Muslim Uyghur revolts in Xinjiang. In the 1821 - 1823 Sino-Russian War, the Qing military was crushed by the Russian army. This led to the loss of Outer Manchuria (Priamuriye region). In Xinjiang, by the end of 1826, the former Qing cities of Kashgar, Yarkand, Khotan, and Yangihissar had all fallen to the rebels.

Reform of the military became a top priority. By the 19th century the Eight Banners, the once mighty armies of Qing, had declined in numbers and efficiency and the defense of the empire was based on regional armies. Daoguang abolished the Banners and formalized the provincial militaries (such as the Xiang Army of Hunan). Those armies, which recruited troops from local villagers who had familial and local ties to each other, were far more efficient. The resources spared from the abolishment of the Banners allowed increased pay for both officers and soldiers, leading subsequently to increased discipline.

This "New Army" reconquered Xinjiang, putting down the Uyghur revolt. At the same time, Daoguang, after witnessing the astonishing power of Russian arms in the Sino-Russian War and seeing the colonial expansion of European powers in South and East Asia, began seriously contemplating the 'Western Problem'. In 1832, the new 'Office for Barbarian Affairs' was created; thus the first Chinese diplomatic corps were established. Qing China would follow a carrot and stick approach towards the West, allowing Westerners greater entry into the Chinese market than before but coming down hard on illegal opium trade. This approach worked, but the increased presence of Westerners in China led to some nationalistic dissatisfaction and xenophobic incidents. It also incentivized the Qing to further go down the road of reforms.

4. During the reign of the Xianfeng Emperor (1850 - 1861), the "New Army" crushed the Taiping Revolt of 1851-2, preventing a bloody civil war. Xianfeng's reign also saw Western companies being given the rights to construct rail networks in China. This, though, led to increased Chinese unemployment among carrier workers and some resentment that caused the 1858 Boxer Rebellion. The "New Army" put down the revolt, but it led to Xianfeng stalling on further reforms as he was afraid of the backlash.

5. The Tongzhi Emperor (1861 - 1875) realized that Qing could not stand in the middle; it had to choose between reform or reaction. He chose reform. Foreign-language schools were established in 1862 in English, Italian and French. Arsenals were established in 1865 in 1867, and a naval dockyard in 1866. A machine factory was established in 1870, and students were sent for advanced education to the West starting in 1872. Coal mines were opened in 1877.

When the Tongzhi Emperor died in 1875, his son was only eight years old. So a regent, Empress Dowager Cixi, ruled in his place. A reactionary individual, she did not proceed to follow further reforms but her attempts to roll back the reforms already instituted failed. In 1889, the Guangxu Emperor was old enough to rule on his own. A reformist, he issued decrees allowing the establishment of a modern university in Beijing, the construction of the Lu-Han railway, and a system of budgets similar to that of Western governments. His reformist agenda caused an attempted coup in 1891. The coup failed and Empress Cixi was stripped of her ranks and placed under house arrest.

6. With the reactionary forces defeated, the Guangxu Emperor was free to pursue further reforms. On the local level, the Baojia system was implemented, which included the establishment of the modern police system and the expansion of local organizational functions. Autonomous research institutes were set up in the urban areas, to promote modern Western-style education. The army was reformed, with Western style education for officers, many of whom were sent abroad for education. A new code and judicial system came in law. The system of fiscal control and tax collection was expanded and regularized.

In 1896, Western educated military officers staged the Beijing Revolution. Regiments of the military took positions in strategic parts of the city and demanded that the Guangxu Emperor promulgate a Western-style constitution. The Emperor accepted the ultimatum. In the 1897 Constitutional Convention, a Congress was established with 400 Congressmen, elected by universal male suffrage. Elections would occur every four years, except for cases of inability to form a government, in which case the Emperor could dissolve the Congress and call for snap elections. The government would be led by a Prime Minister and his cabinet. The Emperor would, however, have veto power (although that veto could be challenged by two thirds majority of Congress).

In the 1898 elections, the constitutionalist and nationalist politician Sun Yat Sen led the Kuomintang Part (Nationalist Party) to an absolute victory of 289 seats in Congress. The Unity Party became the major opposition, with 111 seats in Congress. A xenophobic party, with an anti-Western and economic interventionist agenda, it mainly attracted those opposed to the latest reforms. Sun Yat Sen, having a majority in Congress, was sworn in as the first Chinese Prime Minister. As Prime Minister, he has followed a policy of relaxing government regulations (especially on trade), investing in the construction of railroad networks and fostering close ties with the Roman Empire and Britain.


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"Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat."
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NATION APPLICATION

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United States of America

Government Type: Constitutional Republic
Head of State: President William McKinley
Head of Government:
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President William McKinley

Capital: Washington, District of Columbia
Population: 106,212,168

Allies:
The United States still held the principles of the Monroe Doctrine - that no European power should establish colonies, rule over, or install puppets on the American continent. However, an exception to this rule has been Great Britain, America's former overlord, which relations with the United States has been growing increasingly more cordial over time as the Roman Empire's rise threatened the stability of Europe. The U.S. also maintained a cordial relation with France (the government in Paris) and the German states, including Prussia. The U.S. also sent ambassadors and consuls to China and Japan, promoting a better relationship between the Asian nations and the United States.

Enemies:
The United States saw Russia as a violator of the Monroe Doctrine, being the European colonizer of Alaska. As such, U.S. foreign policy is rather hostile to Russia, and there are plans being drafted for the U.S. to storm and seize Alaska by force, if need be. American foreign policy towards the Roman Empire is also rather cold, though not on the border of hostility.

History:
1. The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, ratified to end the Mexican-American War, ceded lands north of the Rio Grande/Rio Bravo river as well as the Mexican states of Tamaulipas, Coahuila, Nuevo Leon, and California (both Alta and Baja Californias), as well as what would be later known as Chihuahua and Sonora. Soon after, lands south of the Rio Grande river up to El Paso would be admitted into the Union as the state of Rio Grande; another ex-Mexican territory in the West would follow suit as the state of California (encompassing the current California border and Baja California penninsula). The lands in between are divided between the territories of Arizona, New Mexico, and Sonora.

2. News of the annexation treaty of Santo Domingo into the United States, sponsored by Presidents Grant (of the U.S.) and Baez (of the Dominican Republic) are published, with large approval from the American public. When this treaty is submitted into Congress, due to public support and pressure from President Grant, the Senate passed the treaty, thereby admitting the Dominican Republic into the Union. The state of Dominica became the only independent nation to ever integrate willingly with the United States.

3. Union Pacific's Transcontinental railroad was finished and inaugurated in Promontory Summit, Utah, by President Ulysses S. Grant. This would mark the start of a very intense railroad construction program all over the country; with major rail companies receiving U.S. government funding. Union Pacific did not create Credit Mobilier, thereby averting the Credit Mobilier scandal that affected much of railroad construction. Congress also authorized an act that shifted the U.S. Dollar to the Gold standard before 1873; thus, when Germany stopped minting its silver thaler coins, the U.S. mining industry and money supply was less affected. All this contributed to a better infrastructure network and further industrialization of the Great Plains and West Coast areas; San Francisco became a major port in the Pacific and a center of industry as early as 1873. Seattle at this time shifted the focus of economy from timber to manufacturing, acting as the second railroad hub for Cascadia (behind Portland), as well as hosting numerous factories. A railroad linking the cities of Hermosillo and Monterrey was completed in 1875. U.S. investment in the state of Dominica turned the state into one of the Caribbean's most productive territories in the agriculture sector; fruit farms and sugar farms, many of which used advanced machinery, increased their production output. A new port in the Bay of Haina, west of Santo Domingo, was completed in 1876; becoming the primary U.S. Navy base in the Caribbean.

3. Immigration to the United States increased greatly after the War of 1812. Refugees fleeing the Napoleonic Wars, political dissidents, and people in search of more land fled to the United States, increasing the population. Another wave of immigrants arrived after the Civil War; the reconstruction effort in the South, and the infrastructure construction elsewhere, as well as the need for more labor invited immigrants from all over Europe, the countries that has been war-torn or occupied by the Roman Empire, to settle in the United States. The Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882 was never passed; instead, Congress passed a series of laws restricting immigration and movement of Chinese immigrants, but allowing them to settle and work freely in California, Sonora territorry, and Rio Grande. As a result, the economic output of these states increased in value; particularly California, where masses of European, Japanese, and Chinese immigrants, as well as people from the Eastern United States, settled there - increasing greatly the state's population and turning the cities of Sacramento and San Francisco into major economic and population centers.

4. The U.S. navy was
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Personnel: 235,785
  • U.S. Army: 209,714
  • U.S. Navy: 22,492
  • U.S. Marine Forces: 3,579
Vessels: 224

Claim: https://ibb.co/16yvptd (minus Alaska)

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Wait, why does China still have the Priamurye Lands? I'm certainly not going to merely butterfly away the Treaty of Aigun and The Treaty of Beijing (both of which would play a part in Chinese nationalism and the rise of Chinese republicanism); Alexander II while a reformer, was also an expansionist and would certainly be willing to go to war to get Russia warm-water ports on the Pacific Ocean.
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Postby Sarderia » Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:20 am

Monsone wrote:


Wait, why does China still have the Priamurye Lands? I'm certainly not going to merely butterfly away the Treaty of Aigun and The Treaty of Beijing (both of which would play a part in Chinese nationalism and the rise of Chinese republicanism); Alexander II while a reformer, was also an expansionist and would certainly be willing to go to war to get Russia warm-water ports on the Pacific Ocean.

The China player claimed it first, though...

I noticed in the History part that the Xianfeng Emperor established a New Army and tested it in warfare. Perhaps the United States also sent Commodore Perry to China after his journey to Japan... probably also supplying China with American weapons and American military instructors.
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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:06 am

Monsone wrote:


Wait, why does China still have the Priamurye Lands? I'm certainly not going to merely butterfly away the Treaty of Aigun and The Treaty of Beijing (both of which would play a part in Chinese nationalism and the rise of Chinese republicanism); Alexander II while a reformer, was also an expansionist and would certainly be willing to go to war to get Russia warm-water ports on the Pacific Ocean.


In this TL, China opened up to the West earlier and modernized (like Meiji Japan) earlier. The Taiping Rebellion was also crushed earlier. See my history section. As such, some of the the treaties signed by rl China in the 19th century weren't signed by the China of this TL.

I would however be willing to make some concessions in the name of ensuring a more enjoyable RP experience for everyone. We can have a Qing - Russian War in 1821-2, which caused those lands to be conquered by Russia and thus give further impetus to Qing to reform and open up to the West (instead of the RL treaties). This satisfies your desire to hold Outer Manchuria and at the same time does not disregard my desire for a modernized Qing in 1900. However, I would be getting Laos and Cambodia as compensation.
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- Char Aznable

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Postby Monsone » Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:09 am

Sao Nova Europa wrote:-snip-


I'd say the war would be 1821-1823 only because it takes some time for supplies to go overland by Siberia, and during the winter, there won't be much---if any---military action. But other than that small tweak, that works for me.
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Postby Greater Liverpool » Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:24 am

Can I reserve Russia
I am the real emperor of brazil

and none official president of Somalia boy did I mess that up

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Greater Liverpool wrote:Can I reserve Russia


Monsone has already reserved Russia, just waiting for an App, I think.


Gonna review apps that are complete or near-complete soon, will add nations ASAP as well.

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Россійская Имперія
Russian Empire
Россия
Russia


Government Type: Parliamentary Constitutional Monarchic Autocratic Semi-Democracy with an all-controlling Tsar whose powers are theoretically limited by the constitution.

Head of State: Nicholas II

Head of Government: Sergei Witte (though nominally also Nicholas II)

Capital: St. Petersburg

Population: 140 million

Military Population: 1.2 million (900,000 soldiers, 300,000 iregulars)

Allies: Britain, Prussia, the Netherlands, Japan, Belgium, Mexico

Enemies: China, the Roman Empire, the United States (nominally and begrudgingly so)

History:

1. Russia annexes the Priamuriye region after a war with China between 1821 and 1823. This is called in Russia the Priamuriye War

2. Nicholas I does not crackdown on Poland and violate its constitution, meaning the November Uprising is less severe. However, the uprising forces Nicholas I to respect the Polish constitution and respect Poland's limited sovereignty.

3. The Crimean War does still result in a Russian defeat, but the treaty does allow Russia to maintain a fleet in the Black Sea, albeit a very small one. This was almost immediately ignored by Alexander II.

4. Alexander I dies as IRL, and in his will leaves an edict that liberates all serfs of the Russian Empire. The serfs are given equal rights to the other citizens of Russia and do not need to continue to toil for their former masters (unlike IRL, where Serfdom really only ended in name, and in practice ended over the next decade).

5. Alexander II goes on a massive modernization spree after assuming the throne in 1855. He forces many royals to invest money in railroads and industry and uses the newly freed serfs as cheap labor. Furthermore, Alexander II also strengthened the autonomy of Finland and Poland, with Finland even being allowed its own currency. However, these liberalizations are in part countered with a beefing up of the internal security forces and the secret police. It should also be noted that Alaska is not sold by Alexander II, and is instead integrated as a part of the Russian Empire with its own constitution in 1870. The idea is to create a constituent nation based on the Finnish governance system that so far had worked in Finland. Also, the Chelyabinsk Grain Tariff is never implemented, forcing European Russian agriculture to actually start being efficient because Siberian agriculture was simply highly competitive.

6. The January Uprising in Poland is merely a series of strikes and protest in this timeline due to the greater respect for the Polish constitution and the rights of the Polish people as well as the end of Serfdom, which forced many upper-class Poles to realize that an agrarian economy with serfs wasn't viable and wasn't something that would return nearly a decade after it ended.

7. Alexander II survives the 1881 assassination that IRL killed him. This is done by Alexander not getting out of the hardened carriage that saved him from the first bomb. Alive, and merely quite shaken (as opposed to dead), Alexander is unfazed by this and continues his liberalization policies. Namely, the Loris-Merlikov Constitutional Reforms enter into effect, and Russia gains a constitution that theoretically sets out checks and balances that should have made Russia into a democracy. But, Alexander II was both a pragmatist, a realist, and not an idiot. Hence, the constitution also enshrined the Tsar to be a total autocrat in times of national emergency. In an odd turn of events, the metric system and New Style Calendar are implemented in Russia starting in 1884.

8. Eventually, Alexander II would die at the ripe old age of 76 in 1896. He was succeeded by his grandson (Nicholas II) since Alexander's son (the IRL Alexander III) had already passed away from kidney failure. Nicholas II is more liberal (and more experienced) in this timeline due to having been under his grandfather's tutelage for much longer. Armed

Aditional Military Information:

The Navy Operates:

18 Ocean-Going Battleships

6 Coastal Defense Battleships

16 Armored Cruisers

7 Protected Cruisers

22 Ironclad Monitors

5 Ironclads

32 Gunboats

32 Destroyers

48 Torpedo Boats


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The Britannic Empire


Government Type: Constitutional Monarchy
Head of State: Her Imperial Majesty, Victoria, Empress of Britain and India
Head of Government: Prime Minister Cecil Rhodes, Duke of Natal
Capital: London, England
Population:384.000.000
Military Population: Approx. 2.000.000
Allies: The United States, Russia, the South American States
Enemies: The Roman Empire, China
History: The history of Great Britain very much arose around two central elements of culture: First was the total naval dominance across the World Seas that the United Kingdom achieved after France was split in two, with the north being led by a monarchy more occupied with land defence against the Republic. While losing much influence in the Mediterranean, Britain gained influence in markets overseas. The power of Napoleonic Italy over the continent, however, meant that Britain grew diplomatically closer to the kings of France, and Britain has been careful to not totally outcompete Northern France in every aspect, lest she might fall to Republican aggression.

The second pillar of British History is the Roman Antagonism, or the New Classical Revival. Now, Britain during the early part of the 19th century both loathed and was inspired by the new Roman Empire, in a paradoxical stance that meant she could not look away, but was always filled with disgust. This led to a revival of interest in the classics, but where Bonaparte focussed on the Roman Empire, the British were more keen on the Greeks and the Roman Republic. This, especially after the Greek Intervention, when commander Arthur Wellesley, later Duke of Wellington, landed a force in Greece to assist the Ottomans in their defence against Bonaparte. The expedition was a failure, but for the two years of occupation, scholars flocked to Greece to scourge it for artefacts and pieces of archaeological value. Not to mention that, after the establishment of the Byzantine State, travel to Greece was once again open, which allowed close study of ancient texts and Greek architecture.

These two aspects, a birth of British nationalism and imperialism, combined with a hatred for the Roman Empire but a love for the Roman Republic and the Greek ancients, led to a profound political shift. A new school of British philosophers, utopists, inspired by the works of Thomas Moore and Plato, began writing about optimal political systems that not only worked better from a practical standpoint, but that would also create proper values among the people it governed. Of course, in Britain, that meant giving more power to the landed aristocracy, who were seen as inherently more moral than the paupers they governed over. Over time, the British Legislature altered. More and more power flowed from the House of Commons to the House of Lords, which was starting to style itself as a senate around the 1840s. This enraged the Chartist movement, but without the French Revolution and the insistence on the Rights of Man, which was absent from the Wars of Italian Unification, they had very little theoretical framework to base their demands on. The chartist movement was eventually crushed, which paved the way for a more aristocratic government.

The crowning of Napoleon II in 1850 as Emperor led to a counter-movement in Britain. On Christmas Day 1852, then, queen Victoria, as head of the Church of England, crowned herself Empress of Britain, at the head of what was called a ‘British Commonwealth’ or ‘British Republic’. This was nothing more than a style, though, and the mode of government remained largely unchanged, being led by the House of Lords primarily. In 1858, then, after the Crown took over management of India from the bankrupt East India Company, she was also crowned Empress of India. This was just to have one more Imperial title than Napoleon II, of course, but it did more than that: it changed the aesthetic of the British Empire. Regiments were styled as Legions, a new Imperial banner flew over the many holdings of the empire, and with the imperial title came a legislative ability over the colonies previously unseen. Also, with the adoption of the imperial crown came a flare-up in anti-Catholic sentiment which led to a crack-down in Ireland.

The Scramble for Africa did not take place in this time-line. Instead, Africa was divided by the Treaty of Malta between the Empire and its puppets on once side, and Her Britannic Majesty on the other. Everything north of the Sahara was to be Roman, while everything South would roughly fall under British dominion (although she ‘allowed’ many other states to stake claims afterwards). The only problem was the river Nile the basin of which would officially fall under Roman control. The Nile had not yet been fully mapped, however, and it would be long before anyone realised it reach all the way to Lake Victoria, a prize Britain would never want to give up.

While the Imperial Navy rules supreme over the seas, there is much amiss in Britain. Poverty is rampant, fuelled by a legislative body that is quite unwilling to compromise with the lower classes, and which is convinced by Aristotelian and Platonic ideas about the governance of society. The balance sheet of the Empire is also not as stable as her size would make you believe, as trade with the Chinese means that there is not much of a positive trade balance to speak of. First rumours of moving to a fiat system of currency to allow Britain to deal with this problem are being whispered in the halls of Westminster. And the rise of socialism means the working classes are once again clamouring for democratic reform. All the while, the Imperial Navy, manned by tarpaulins and officers not from the landed gentry, is becoming politically unreliable. Empress Victoria, for all her glorious reign, is clearly heading towards the end of her life, and her son Edward is somewhat ineffectual. Her grandson George, however, is a military man, and some look to him to safe the Britannic Empire from eventual downfall.

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There is much more history to discuss, and I absolutely will, but I want to wait for others to app to in order to coordinate, and to implement some others ideas in the history as well. Some of it will have to be developed through writing.
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Empire of China

Government Type: Constitutional Monarchy
Head of State: Guangxu Emperor

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Head of Government: Prime Minister Sun Yat Sen

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Capital: Beijing
Population: 420,000,000
Military Population: 560,000 (professional standing army)
Allies:

China has been trying to foster closer ties with the Roman Empire as a countermeasure to Japan and Russia. At the same time, China also maintains diplomatic connections with the United States, in order to not rely too much on one power.

Enemies:

Japan (primarily), Russia (possibly, though no active antagonism)

History:

1. In 1787, Lê Chiêu Thống, the last ruler of the Vietnamese Lê dynasty, fled from Vietnam and formally requested to be restored to his throne in Thăng Long (present-day Hanoi). The Qianlong Emperor agreed and sent a large army into Vietnam, under the Mongol general Tögs-Ochiryn, to remove the Tây Sơn (peasant rebels who had captured all of Vietnam). Tögs-Ochiryn managed to conquer much of the north of the country. The tropical conditions though and the irregular attacks by Vietnamese peasants forced the Qing army to retreat. Almost 20,000 men had perished. A second invasion was launched in 1789 that also ended in disaster.

Finally, in 1791, a third invasion was launched under general Huang Dao. This time, it was a combined land and naval invasion. The number of land troops mobilized reached 160,000. By 1792, Vietnam had been pacified. Instead of restoring Lê Chiêu Thống, Qianlong chose to annex Vietnam into the Qing Dynasty. After hundreds of years of independence, Vietnam was finally once again a Chinese dominion. Lê Chiêu Thống was strangled and three revolts in 1793, 1795 and 1799 were brutally put down. Widespread massacres were followed by Chinese colonization of the region, as Qianlong found a chance to solve social problems caused by an ever increasing population.

As the Chinese hold on Vietnam was stabilized, in the next decades Qing would expand into Cambodia and Laos. Cambodia was incorporated in 1827 and Laos in 1836. This expansion was a long-term process. Initially, the Qing established themselves as mere overlords, soon turning the regional monarchs into client kings of the Qing state. Then, outposts (both civil and military) were established. Finally, the two regions were incorporated into the normal provincial administration once Qing hold had been solidified.

2. After the death of the Qianlong Emperor in the beginning of February 1799, the Jiaqing Emperor took control of the government and prosecuted Heshen, a favorite official of his father. Heshen was charged with corruption and abuse of power, stripped of his titles, had his property confiscated, and ordered to commit suicide. But the damage Heshen had done was widespread; the treasury was empty and social discontent high. The large-scale White Lotus (1796–1804) and Miao (1795–1806) rebellions shook the empire and showed its weakness.

In order to restore sound finances, confidence in the dynasty and centralized control, the Jiaqing Emperor appointed a reformist scholar named Guo Jing as Chancellor of the Grand Council, Qing's top governmental body. Guo Jing was the first Han Chinese appointed to that post, in an institution dominated by the Manchus. Such was Jiaqing's desperation. His trust in Guo Jing wasn't misplaced. He reformed the tax system, instituting new taxes on rich merchants and big landowners. He enacted a broad land redistributing program to give farm to tenants and landless peasants, much to the dismay of many large landowners. Regional revolts by the dissatisfied gentry were crushed. Guo Jing used the revenue from the increased taxation to invest in much needed infrastructure updates, such as new canals and roads.

3. The Daoguang Emperor ruled from 1820 to 1850. His reign saw significant reforms in the military. Daoguang had to face early in his reign a war with Russia and the Muslim Uyghur revolts in Xinjiang. In the 1821 - 1823 Sino-Russian War, the Qing military was crushed by the Russian army. This led to the loss of Outer Manchuria (Priamuriye region). In Xinjiang, by the end of 1826, the former Qing cities of Kashgar, Yarkand, Khotan, and Yangihissar had all fallen to the rebels.

Reform of the military became a top priority. By the 19th century the Eight Banners, the once mighty armies of Qing, had declined in numbers and efficiency and the defense of the empire was based on regional armies. Daoguang abolished the Banners and formalized the provincial militaries (such as the Xiang Army of Hunan). Those armies, which recruited troops from local villagers who had familial and local ties to each other, were far more efficient. The resources spared from the abolishment of the Banners allowed increased pay for both officers and soldiers, leading subsequently to increased discipline.

This "New Army" reconquered Xinjiang, putting down the Uyghur revolt. At the same time, Daoguang, after witnessing the astonishing power of Russian arms in the Sino-Russian War and seeing the colonial expansion of European powers in South and East Asia, began seriously contemplating the 'Western Problem'. In 1832, the new 'Office for Barbarian Affairs' was created; thus the first Chinese diplomatic corps were established. Qing China would follow a carrot and stick approach towards the West, allowing Westerners greater entry into the Chinese market than before but coming down hard on illegal opium trade. This approach worked, but the increased presence of Westerners in China led to some nationalistic dissatisfaction and xenophobic incidents. It also incentivized the Qing to further go down the road of reforms.

4. During the reign of the Xianfeng Emperor (1850 - 1861), the "New Army" crushed the Taiping Revolt of 1851-2, preventing a bloody civil war. Xianfeng's reign also saw Western companies being given the rights to construct rail networks in China. This, though, led to increased Chinese unemployment among carrier workers and some resentment that caused the 1858 Boxer Rebellion. The "New Army" put down the revolt, but it led to Xianfeng stalling on further reforms as he was afraid of the backlash.

5. The Tongzhi Emperor (1861 - 1875) realized that Qing could not stand in the middle; it had to choose between reform or reaction. He chose reform. Foreign-language schools were established in 1862 in English, Italian and French. Arsenals were established in 1865 in 1867, and a naval dockyard in 1866. A machine factory was established in 1870, and students were sent for advanced education to the West starting in 1872. Coal mines were opened in 1877.

When the Tongzhi Emperor died in 1875, his son was only eight years old. So a regent, Empress Dowager Cixi, ruled in his place. A reactionary individual, she did not proceed to follow further reforms but her attempts to roll back the reforms already instituted failed. In 1889, the Guangxu Emperor was old enough to rule on his own. A reformist, he issued decrees allowing the establishment of a modern university in Beijing, the construction of the Lu-Han railway, and a system of budgets similar to that of Western governments. His reformist agenda caused an attempted coup in 1891. The coup failed and Empress Cixi was stripped of her ranks and placed under house arrest.

6. With the reactionary forces defeated, the Guangxu Emperor was free to pursue further reforms. On the local level, the Baojia system was implemented, which included the establishment of the modern police system and the expansion of local organizational functions. Autonomous research institutes were set up in the urban areas, to promote modern Western-style education. The army was reformed, with Western style education for officers, many of whom were sent abroad for education. A new code and judicial system came in law. The system of fiscal control and tax collection was expanded and regularized.

In 1896, Western educated military officers staged the Beijing Revolution. Regiments of the military took positions in strategic parts of the city and demanded that the Guangxu Emperor promulgate a Western-style constitution. The Emperor accepted the ultimatum. In the 1897 Constitutional Convention, a Congress was established with 400 Congressmen, elected by universal male suffrage. Elections would occur every four years, except for cases of inability to form a government, in which case the Emperor could dissolve the Congress and call for snap elections. The government would be led by a Prime Minister and his cabinet. The Emperor would, however, have veto power (although that veto could be challenged by two thirds majority of Congress).

In the 1898 elections, the constitutionalist and nationalist politician Sun Yat Sen led the Kuomintang Part (Nationalist Party) to an absolute victory of 289 seats in Congress. The Unity Party became the major opposition, with 111 seats in Congress. A xenophobic party, with an anti-Western and economic interventionist agenda, it mainly attracted those opposed to the latest reforms. Sun Yat Sen, having a majority in Congress, was sworn in as the first Chinese Prime Minister. As Prime Minister, he has followed a policy of relaxing government regulations (especially on trade), investing in the construction of railroad networks and fostering close ties with the Roman Empire and Britain.


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Россійская Имперія
Russian Empire
Россия
Russia


Government Type: Parliamentary Constitutional Monarchic Autocratic Semi-Democracy with an all-controlling Tsar whose powers are theoretically limited by the constitution.

Head of State: Nicholas II

Head of Government: Sergei Witte (though nominally also Nicholas II)

Capital: St. Petersburg

Population: 140 million

Military Population: 1.2 million (900,000 soldiers, 300,000 iregulars)

Allies: Britain, Prussia, the Netherlands, Japan, Belgium, Mexico

Enemies: China, the Roman Empire, the United States (nominally and begrudgingly so)

History:

1. Russia annexes the Priamuriye region after a war with China between 1821 and 1823. This is called in Russia the Priamuriye War

2. Nicholas I does not crackdown on Poland and violate its constitution, meaning the November Uprising is less severe. However, the uprising forces Nicholas I to respect the Polish constitution and respect Poland's limited sovereignty.

3. The Crimean War does still result in a Russian defeat, but the treaty does allow Russia to maintain a fleet in the Black Sea, albeit a very small one. This was almost immediately ignored by Alexander II.

4. Alexander I dies as IRL, and in his will leaves an edict that liberates all serfs of the Russian Empire. The serfs are given equal rights to the other citizens of Russia and do not need to continue to toil for their former masters (unlike IRL, where Serfdom really only ended in name, and in practice ended over the next decade).

5. Alexander II goes on a massive modernization spree after assuming the throne in 1855. He forces many royals to invest money in railroads and industry and uses the newly freed serfs as cheap labor. Furthermore, Alexander II also strengthened the autonomy of Finland and Poland, with Finland even being allowed its own currency. However, these liberalizations are in part countered with a beefing up of the internal security forces and the secret police. It should also be noted that Alaska is not sold by Alexander II, and is instead integrated as a part of the Russian Empire with its own constitution in 1870. The idea is to create a constituent nation based on the Finnish governance system that so far had worked in Finland. Also, the Chelyabinsk Grain Tariff is never implemented, forcing European Russian agriculture to actually start being efficient because Siberian agriculture was simply highly competitive.

6. The January Uprising in Poland is merely a series of strikes and protest in this timeline due to the greater respect for the Polish constitution and the rights of the Polish people as well as the end of Serfdom, which forced many upper-class Poles to realize that an agrarian economy with serfs wasn't viable and wasn't something that would return nearly a decade after it ended.

7. Alexander II survives the 1881 assassination that IRL killed him. This is done by Alexander not getting out of the hardened carriage that saved him from the first bomb. Alive, and merely quite shaken (as opposed to dead), Alexander is unfazed by this and continues his liberalization policies. Namely, the Loris-Merlikov Constitutional Reforms enter into effect, and Russia gains a constitution that theoretically sets out checks and balances that should have made Russia into a democracy. But, Alexander II was both a pragmatist, a realist, and not an idiot. Hence, the constitution also enshrined the Tsar to be a total autocrat in times of national emergency. In an odd turn of events, the metric system and New Style Calendar are implemented in Russia starting in 1884.

8. Eventually, Alexander II would die at the ripe old age of 76 in 1896. He was succeeded by his grandson (Nicholas II) since Alexander's son (the IRL Alexander III) had already passed away from kidney failure. Nicholas II is more liberal (and more experienced) in this timeline due to having been under his grandfather's tutelage for much longer. Armed

Aditional Military Information:

The Navy Operates:

18 Ocean-Going Battleships

6 Coastal Defense Battleships

16 Armored Cruisers

7 Protected Cruisers

22 Ironclad Monitors

5 Ironclads

32 Gunboats

32 Destroyers

48 Torpedo Boats


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The Britannic Empire


Government Type: Constitutional Monarchy
Head of State: Her Imperial Majesty, Victoria, Empress of Britain and India
Head of Government: Prime Minister Cecil Rhodes, Duke of Natal
Capital: London, England
Population:384.000.000
Military Population: Approx. 2.000.000
Allies: The United States, Russia, the South American States
Enemies: The Roman Empire, China
History: The history of Great Britain very much arose around two central elements of culture: First was the total naval dominance across the World Seas that the United Kingdom achieved after France was split in two, with the north being led by a monarchy more occupied with land defence against the Republic. While losing much influence in the Mediterranean, Britain gained influence in markets overseas. The power of Napoleonic Italy over the continent, however, meant that Britain grew diplomatically closer to the kings of France, and Britain has been careful to not totally outcompete Northern France in every aspect, lest she might fall to Republican aggression.

The second pillar of British History is the Roman Antagonism, or the New Classical Revival. Now, Britain during the early part of the 19th century both loathed and was inspired by the new Roman Empire, in a paradoxical stance that meant she could not look away, but was always filled with disgust. This led to a revival of interest in the classics, but where Bonaparte focussed on the Roman Empire, the British were more keen on the Greeks and the Roman Republic. This, especially after the Greek Intervention, when commander Arthur Wellesley, later Duke of Wellington, landed a force in Greece to assist the Ottomans in their defence against Bonaparte. The expedition was a failure, but for the two years of occupation, scholars flocked to Greece to scourge it for artefacts and pieces of archaeological value. Not to mention that, after the establishment of the Byzantine State, travel to Greece was once again open, which allowed close study of ancient texts and Greek architecture.

These two aspects, a birth of British nationalism and imperialism, combined with a hatred for the Roman Empire but a love for the Roman Republic and the Greek ancients, led to a profound political shift. A new school of British philosophers, utopists, inspired by the works of Thomas Moore and Plato, began writing about optimal political systems that not only worked better from a practical standpoint, but that would also create proper values among the people it governed. Of course, in Britain, that meant giving more power to the landed aristocracy, who were seen as inherently more moral than the paupers they governed over. Over time, the British Legislature altered. More and more power flowed from the House of Commons to the House of Lords, which was starting to style itself as a senate around the 1840s. This enraged the Chartist movement, but without the French Revolution and the insistence on the Rights of Man, which was absent from the Wars of Italian Unification, they had very little theoretical framework to base their demands on. The chartist movement was eventually crushed, which paved the way for a more aristocratic government.

The crowning of Napoleon II in 1850 as Emperor led to a counter-movement in Britain. On Christmas Day 1852, then, queen Victoria, as head of the Church of England, crowned herself Empress of Britain, at the head of what was called a ‘British Commonwealth’ or ‘British Republic’. This was nothing more than a style, though, and the mode of government remained largely unchanged, being led by the House of Lords primarily. In 1858, then, after the Crown took over management of India from the bankrupt East India Company, she was also crowned Empress of India. This was just to have one more Imperial title than Napoleon II, of course, but it did more than that: it changed the aesthetic of the British Empire. Regiments were styled as Legions, a new Imperial banner flew over the many holdings of the empire, and with the imperial title came a legislative ability over the colonies previously unseen. Also, with the adoption of the imperial crown came a flare-up in anti-Catholic sentiment which led to a crack-down in Ireland.

The Scramble for Africa did not take place in this time-line. Instead, Africa was divided by the Treaty of Malta between the Empire and its puppets on once side, and Her Britannic Majesty on the other. Everything north of the Sahara was to be Roman, while everything South would roughly fall under British dominion (although she ‘allowed’ many other states to stake claims afterwards). The only problem was the river Nile the basin of which would officially fall under Roman control. The Nile had not yet been fully mapped, however, and it would be long before anyone realised it reach all the way to Lake Victoria, a prize Britain would never want to give up.

While the Imperial Navy rules supreme over the seas, there is much amiss in Britain. Poverty is rampant, fuelled by a legislative body that is quite unwilling to compromise with the lower classes, and which is convinced by Aristotelian and Platonic ideas about the governance of society. The balance sheet of the Empire is also not as stable as her size would make you believe, as trade with the Chinese means that there is not much of a positive trade balance to speak of. First rumours of moving to a fiat system of currency to allow Britain to deal with this problem are being whispered in the halls of Westminster. And the rise of socialism means the working classes are once again clamouring for democratic reform. All the while, the Imperial Navy, manned by tarpaulins and officers not from the landed gentry, is becoming politically unreliable. Empress Victoria, for all her glorious reign, is clearly heading towards the end of her life, and her son Edward is somewhat ineffectual. Her grandson George, however, is a military man, and some look to him to safe the Britannic Empire from eventual downfall.

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In addition to: German East Africa, Kamerun, Madagascar, and French Equatorial Africa in Africa, minus Egypt and Sudan, and excluding British Iraq and the Levant. Hong Kong is also not a British possession, due to China allowing freer access to her ports.


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Can I reserve Persia, Iraq, and the rest of unoccupied Arabia
I am the real emperor of brazil

and none official president of Somalia boy did I mess that up

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NATION APPLICATION

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Name of Nation Empire of Japan

Government Type: Constitutional Monarchy
Head of State:

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Emperor Meiji

Head of Government:

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Prime Minister Count Yamagata Aritomo

Capital: Tokyo
Population: 60,979,000
Military Population: 150,000 active with 260,000 in reserve
Allies: Russia, Britain, Netherlands, and strong diplomatic relations with US
Enemies: China
Claim: Japan, Korea, the Ryukyu Islands, Sakhalin, and the Kuril Islands.
History:

(Mostly the same as IRL)

1. Japan seizes Sakhalin and the Kuril Islands in 1877 from native inhabitants.

2. After a period of modernization, Japanese troops land in Korea in 1895. Though a mix of diplomacy, existing agreements, and military force, Korea is seized.

3. 1900 - as the Japanese fleet expands and the country's army prepares, the nation readies itself for confrontation with the Chinese; now Japan' primary enemy.

Additional Military Info:
The IJN currently operates 7 battleships, 4 ironclads, 6 armored cruisers, 15 protected cruisers, 1 unprotected cruiser; 5 dispatch ships; 8 ironclad corvettes; 4 sloops; 12 torpedo boat destroyers, 95 torpedo boats; 7 gunboats; 1 Imperial Yacht; 60 transports; 25 minesweepers

SHIPS OF THE IMPERIAL JAPANESE NAVY:

PRE-DREADNOUGHTS:
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Number in Service: 2 (Commissioned 1897)
-Armament: 2 × twin 12 in (305 mm) guns; 10 × single 6 in (152 mm) QF guns; 14 × single 3-pounder guns; 10 × single 2.5-pounder Hotchkiss guns; 5 × 18-inch torpedo tubes
-Armor: Belt: 14-18 in; Deck: 2.5 in; Barbettes: 5-14 in; Turrets: 6 in; Conning Tower: 14 in; Bulkheads: 12-14 in
-Top Speed: 18.25 knots
-Range: 4,000 nmi at 10 knots

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Number in Service: 3 (Commissioned 1900)
-Armament: 2 × twin 12 in (305 mm) guns; 14 × single 6 in (152 mm) guns; 20 × single 12-pdr (3 in) guns; 8 × single 3-pdr (1.9 in) guns; 4 × single 2.5-pdr (1.9 in) Hotchkiss guns; 4 × 18 in (450 mm) torpedo tubes
-Armor: Belt: 4-9 in; Deck: 2.5-4 in; Turrets: 10 in; Conning Tower: 3-14 in; Bulkheads: 6-14 in
-Top Speed: 18 knots
-Range: 5,000 nmi at 10 knots

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Number in Service: 2 (Commissioned 1900)
-Armament: 2 × twin 12 in (305 mm) guns; 14 × single 6 in (152 mm) QF guns; 20 × single 12-pdr (3 in) guns; 6 × single 3-pdr (1.9 in) guns; 6 × single 2.5-pdr (1.9 in) Hotchkiss guns; 4 × 18 in (450 mm) torpedo tubes
-Armor: Belt: 4-9 in; Deck: 2.5-4 in; Turrets: 6 in; Barbettes: 10-14 in; Conning Tower: 14 in; Casemates: 2-6 in
-Top Speed: 18 knots
-Range: 9,000 nmi at 10 knots


IRONCLAD BATTLESHIPS:
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Number in Service: 1 (Commissioned 1878)
-Armament: 4 x QF 15-centimetre (5.9 in) guns; 1 × QF 12-centimetre (4.7 in) gun; 14 × 3-pounder Hotchkiss guns; 4 x (14.0 in) torpedo tubes
-Armor: Belt: 6.4-9 in; Battery: 9 in; Bulkheads: 8 in
-Top Speed: 13 knots
-Range: 4,500 nmi at 10 knots

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Number in Service: 2 (Commissioned 1882)
-Armament: 4 × 12 in (305 mm) breech-loading guns; 2 × 5.9 in (150 mm) breech-loading guns; 2 × 47 mm (1.9 in) Hotchkiss revolver cannons; 6 × 37 mm (1.5 in) Maxim-Nordenfelt quick-firing guns; 3 × 14 in (356 mm) torpedo tubes
-Armor: Belt: 14 in; Deck: 3 in; Barbettes: 12-14 in; Conning Tower: 8 in
-Top Speed: 15.4 knots
-Range: 4,500 nmi at 10 knots

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Number in Service: 1 (Commissioned 1890)
-Armament: 1 × 260 mm (10 in) gun; 2 × 150 mm (6 in) guns; 2 × 57 mm (2 in) machine guns; 2 × 47 mm (2 in) machine guns; 4 × 37.5 mm (1 in) machine guns; 3 × 18 in (457 mm) torpedo tubes
-Armor: Belt: 8 in; Deck: 2 in; Turret: 8 in; Conning Tower: 5 in
-Top Speed: 10.5 knots
-Range: 350 tons coal


ARMORED CRUISERS:
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Number in Service: 2 (Commissioned 1899)
-Armament: 2 × twin 20.3 cm/45 Type 41 naval guns; 14 × single QF 6 inch /40 naval guns; 12 × single QF 12 pounder 12 cwt naval guns; 8 × single QF 3 pounder Hotchkiss guns; 5 × single 457 mm (18.0 in) torpedo tubes
-Armor: Belt: 3.5-7 in; Deck 2 in; Turret: 6.3 in; Barbette: 6 in; Casemate: 2-6 in; Conning Tower: 14 in; Bulkhead: 5 in
-Top Speed: 21 knots
-Range: 10,000 nmi at 10 knots

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Number in Service: 2 (Commissioned 1900)
-Armament: 2 × twin 20.3 cm/45 Type 41 naval guns; 14 × single QF 6-inch guns; 12 × single QF 12-pounder 12-cwt guns; 8 × single QF 2.5-pounder Yamauchi guns; 4 × single 457 mm (18.0 in) torpedo tubes
-Armor: Belt: 3.5-7 in; Deck 2 in; Turret: 6.3 in; Barbette: 6 in; Casemate: 2-6 in; Conning Tower: 14 in; Bulkhead: 5 in
-Top Speed: 20.75 knots
-Range: 7,000 nmi at 10 knots

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Number in Service: 1 (Commissioned 1900)
-Armament: 2 × twin 20.3 cm/45 Type 41 naval guns; 12 × single QF 6 inch /40 naval guns; 12 × single QF 12 pounder 12 cwt naval guns; 8 × single QF 3 pounder Hotchkiss guns; 5 × single 457 mm (18.0 in) torpedo tubes
-Armor: Belt: 3.5-7 in; Deck 2 in; Turret: 6.3 in; Barbette: 6 in; Casemate: 2-6 in; Conning Tower: 14 in; Bulkhead: 5 in
-Top Speed: 20 knots
-Range: 7,000 nmi at 10 knots

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Number in Service: 1 (Commissioned 1900)
-Armament: 2 × twin 20.3 cm/45 Type 41 naval guns; 12 × single QF 6 inch /40 naval guns; 12 × single QF 12 pounder 12 cwt naval guns; 8 × single QF 3 pounder Hotchkiss guns; 5 × single 457 mm (18.0 in) torpedo tubes
-Armor: Belt: 3.5-7 in; Deck 2 in; Turret: 6.3 in; Barbette: 6 in; Casemate: 2-6 in; Conning Tower: 14 in; Bulkhead: 3 in
-Top Speed: 21 knots
-Range: 7,000 nmi at 10 knots


PROTECTED CRUISERS:
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Number in Service: 1 (Commissioned 1884)
-Armament: 2 × BL 6-inch Mk VII naval guns L/45; 6 × QF 4.7 inch Gun Mk I–IV L/40; 6 × QF 6 pounder Hotchkiss guns; 3 × 356 mm (14.0 in) torpedo tubes; 2 × machine guns
-Armor: Deck (slope): 0.98 in; Deck (flat): 0.47 in
-Top Speed: 18.25 knots
-Range: 9,000 nmi at 13 knots

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Number in Service: 2 (Commissioned 1886)
-Armament: 2 × 260 mm (10 in) L/35 Krupp guns; 8 × Elswick QF 6 inch /40 naval guns; 6 × QF 6 pounder Hotchkiss; 10 × 1-inch Nordenfelt guns;4 × 11-mm, 10-barrel Nordenfelt guns; 4 × 356 mm (14.0 in) torpedo tubes
-Armor: Deck: 2-3 in; Gun Shields: 1.5 in; Conning Tower: 1.5 in
-Top Speed: 18.5 knots
-Range: 9,000 nmi at 13 knots

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Number in Service: 1 (Commissioned 1887)
-Armament: 4 × single 24 cm (9.4 in) guns; 7 × single 15 cm (5.9 in) guns; 2 × single 57 mm (2.2 in) guns; 10 × quadruple 25 mm (1 in) guns; 4 × dectuple 11 mm (0.43 in) machine guns; 4 × 356 mm (14 in) torpedo tubes
-Armor: Deck: 2.5 in; Conning Tower: 0.9 in
-Top Speed: 18.5 knots
-Range: 5,600 nmi at 10 knots

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Number in Service: 1 (Commissioned 1891)
-Armament: 10 × QF 4.7 inch /40 naval guns; 14 × QF 3 pounder Hotchkiss guns; 3 × 11-mm, 10-barrel Nordenfelt guns; 3 × 356 mm (14.0 in) torpedo tubes
-Armor: Belt: 3.2-3.6 in; Deck: 1.2-1.4 in; Conning Tower: 1.2 in
-Top Speed: 19 knots
-Range: 5,600 nmi at 10 knots

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Number in Service: 3 (Commissioned 1891)
-Armament: 1 × 320 mm (12.6 in) Canet gun; 12 × QF 4.7-inch (120 mm) guns; 6 × QF 6-pounder (57 mm) Hotchkiss guns; 2 × QF 3-pounder (47 mm) Hotchkiss guns; 4 × 356 mm (14.0 in) torpedo tubes
-Armor: Deck: 2 in; Turret: 12 in; Gun Shield: 4 in
-Top Speed: 16.5 knots
-Range: N/A

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Number in Service: 1 (Commissioned 1894)
-Armament: 4 × QF 6 inch /40 naval guns; 6 × QF 4.7-inch guns; 10 × QF 3 pounder Hotchkiss guns; 2 × quadruple 1-inch Nordenfelt guns; 4 × 356 mm (14 in) torpedo tubes
-Armor: Deck: 3 in; Gun Shield: 5 in
-Top Speed: 19 knots
-Range: N/A

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Number in Service: 1 (Commissioned 1893)
-Armament: 4 × QF 6 inch /40 naval guns; 8 × QF 4.7 inch Gun Mk I–IV quick-firing guns; 22 × QF 3 pounder Hotchkiss; 5 × 356 mm (14.0 in) torpedo tubes
-Armor: Deck (slope) 4.5 in; Deck (flat) 1.8 in; Gun Shield: 4.5 in
-Top Speed: 23 knots
-Range: 9,000 nmi at 10 knots

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Number in Service: 2 (Commissioned 1896)
-Armament: 2 × QF 6 inch /40 naval guns; 6 × QF 4.7 inch Gun Mk I–IV; 10 × QF 6 pounder Hotchkiss guns; 4 × QF 3 pounder Hotchkiss guns; 4 × Maxim guns; 2 × 380 mm (15 in) torpedo tubes
-Armor: Deck 1-2 in; Gun Shield: 4.5 in
-Top Speed: 20 knots
-Range: 11,000 nmi at 10 knots

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Number in Service: 1 (Commissioned 1898)
-Armament: 2 × 20.3 cm/45 Type 41 naval gun; 10 × 12 cm (4.7 in)/40 Type 41 naval guns; 12 × QF 12 pounder 12 cwt naval guns; 6 × QF 3-pounder Hotchkiss guns; 5 × 457 mm (18 in) torpedo tubes
-Armor: Deck: 2.5-4.5 in; Gun Shield (front) 8 in; Gun Shield (side): 2.5 in; Conning Tower: 4.5 in
-Top Speed: 23.5 knots
-Range: N/A

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Number in Service: 2 (Commissioned 1899)
-Armament: 2 × 20.3 cm/45 Type 41 naval guns; 10 × QF 4.7 inch Gun Mk I–IV guns; 12 × QF 12-pounder 12 cwt naval guns; 6 × QF 3-pounder Hotchkiss guns; 5 × 356 mm (14.0 in) torpedo tubes
-Armor: Deck: 2.4-4.4 in; Gun Shield: 8 in; Conning Tower: 4.5 in
-Top Speed: 22.5 knots
-Range: 4,000 nmi at 10 knots


UNPROTECTED CRUISERS:
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Number in Service: 1 (Commissioned 1883)
-Armament: 2 × 254 mm (10 in) guns; 4 × 120 mm (4.7 in) guns; 2 × 9-pounder guns; 1 × Hotchkiss gun; 2 × 450 mm (18 in) torpedo tubes
-Armor: None
-Top Speed: 16.5 knots
-Range: 300 tons coal


DISPATCH SHIPS:
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Number in Service: 1 (Commissioned 1867)
-Armament: 2 x 68-pounder guns; 4 x 18-pounder long guns
-Armor: None
-Top Speed: 17 knots

DISPATCH SHIPS:
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Number in Service: 1 (Commissioned 1889)
-Armament: 4 × 15 cm (5.9 in) L/35 Krupp guns; 1 × QF 4.7 inch Gun Mk I–IV gun; 1 × QF 6-pounder Hotchkiss gun; 2 × quadruple 1-inch Nordenfelt guns; 2 × 356 mm (14.0 in) torpedo tubes
-Armor: None
-Top Speed: 15 knots
-Range: N/A

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Number in Service: 1 (Commissioned 1890)
-Armament: 3 × QF 4.7 inch Guns; 8 × QF 3 pounder Hotchkiss guns; 2 × 457 mm (18 in) torpedo tubes
-Armor: None
-Top Speed: 20.75 knots
-Range: 5,000 nmi at 10 knots

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Number in Service: 1 (Commissioned 1892)
-Armament: 5 × 76 mm (3 in) guns; 6 × 37 mm (1.5 in) 1-pounder guns; 3 × 380 mm (15 in) torpedo tubes
-Armor: None
-Top Speed: 22 knots
-Range: N/A

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Number in Service: 1(Commissioned 1894)
-Armament: 2 × QF 4.7 inch Gun Mk I–IVs; 4 × QF 3 pounder Hotchkiss guns; 5 × 18 in (460 mm) torpedo tubes
-Armor: None
-Top Speed: 21 knots
-Range: N/A

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Number in Service: 1 (Commissioned 1899)
-Armament: 2 × QF 4.7 inch Gun Mk I–IVs; 8 × QF 3 pounder Hotchkiss guns; 2 × 18 in (460 mm) torpedo tubes
-Armor: None
-Top Speed: 20 knots
-Range: N/A


TORPEDO BOAT DESTROYERS:
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Number in Class: 6 (Commissioned 1897)
-Armament: 1 × QF 12 pounder gun; 5 × QF 6 pounder Hotchkiss guns; 2 × 18 in (460 mm) torpedoes
-Armor: None
-Top Speed: 30 knots
-Range: N/A

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Number in Service: 6
-Armament: 1 × QF 12-pounder gun; 5 × QF 6 pounder Hotchkiss guns; 2 × 450 mm (18 in) torpedoes
-Armor: None
-Top Speed: 30 knots
-Range: N/A


IRONCLAD CORVETTES:
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Number in Service: 1 (Commissioned 1870)
-Armament: 2 × 100-pdr smoothbore muzzle-loading guns; 8 × 64-pdr smoothbore muzzle-loading guns
-Armor: Belt: 4.5 in
-Top Speed: 9 knots

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Number in Service: 2 (Commissioned 1877)
-Armament: 6 x QF 12-pounder 12 cwt naval guns; 6 x QF 3-pounder Hotchkiss
-Armor: Belt: 3-4.5 in
-Top Speed: 13 knots
-Range: 3,100 nmi at 10 knots

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Number in Service: 1 (Commissioned 1884)
-Armament: 1 × 170 mm (6.7 in) Krupp breech-loading guns; 6 × 120 mm (4.7 in) Krupp guns; 1 × 80 mm (3.1 in) gun; 4 × 25 mm (1 in) quadruple Nordenfelt guns;1 × 11.5 mm (0.45 in) quadruple Nordenfelt gun
-Armor: None
-Top Speed: 12 knots
-Range: 256 tons coal

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Number in Service: 1 (Commissioned 1885)
-Armament: 1 × 170 mm (6.7 in) Krupp breech-loading gun; 1 × 150 mm (5.9 in) Krupp breech-loading gun; 4 × 120 mm (4.7 in) guns; 1 × 75 mm (3 in) gun; 4 × 25 mm (0.98 in) quadruple Nordenfelt guns
-Armor: None
-Top Speed: 12 knots
-Range: 256 tons coal

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Number in Service: 3 (Commissioned 1888)
-Armament: 2 × 170 mm (6.7 in) Krupp breech-loading guns; 5 × 120 mm (4.7 in) Krupp breech-loading guns; 1 × 80 mm (3.1 in) Krupp QF gun; 4 × quadruple 1-inch Nordenfelt guns; 2 × 380 mm (15 in) torpedo tubes
-Armor: None
-Top Speed: 13 knots
-Range: 132 tons coal


SLOOPS:
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Number in Service: 1 (Commissioned 1869)
-Armament: 6 × 4.5-inch BL guns; 2 × 30-pounder guns; 2 × 24-pounder guns; 4 × 6-inch QF guns
-Armor: None
-Top Speed: 9.5 knots

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Number in Service: 1 (Commissioned 1870)
-Armament: 1 × 178 mm (7.0 in) muzzle-loading gun; 4 x 160 mm (6.3 in) guns; 1 × 120 mm (4.7 in) mortar; 2 × 4-pounder guns
-Armor: None
-Top Speed: 9 knots
-Range: 200 tons coal

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Number in Service: 1 (Commissioned 1871)
-Armament: 1 × 178 mm (7 in) muzzle-loading cannon; 1 × 140 mm (5.5 in) muzzle-loading cannon
-Armor: None
-Top Speed: 11 knots
-Range: 810 tons coal

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Number in Service: 1 (Commissioned 1878)
-Armament: 1 × 6.7 in (170 mm) Krupp breech-loading gun; 4 × 4.7 in (120 mm) breech-loading guns; 3 × 3.1 in (79 mm) breech-loading guns; 1 × 3 in (76 mm) triple Nordenfelt gun
-Armor: None
-Top Speed: 11.5 knots
-Range: 150 tons coal


TORPEDO BOATS:
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Number in Service: 80 (Commissioned 1890)
-Armament: 4 × 37 mm (1.5 in) guns; 6 × 360 mm (14 in) torpedo tubes
-Armor: None
-Top Speed: 19 knots

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Number in Service: 15 (Commissioned 1900)
-Armament: 1 × 57 mm (2.2 in) gun; 2 × 42 mm (1.7 in) guns; 3 × 360 mm (14 in) torpedo tubes
-Armor: None
-Top Speed: 29 knots
-Range: N/A


GUNBOATS:
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Number in Service: 1 (Commissioned 1880)
-Armament: 1 × 170 mm (7 in) Krupp breech-loading gun; 1 × 120 mm (4.7 in) Krupp breech-loading gun; 2 × 12-pounder guns; 3 × 25 mm (0.98 in) quadruple Nordenfelt guns
-Armor: None
-Top Speed: 10 knots
-Range: 107 tons coal

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Number in Service: 4 (Commissioned 1888)
-Armament: 1 × 210 mm (8 in) Krupp L/22 breech-loading gun; 1 × Krupp 120 mm (4.7 in) L/22 breech-loading gun; 2 × quadruple 1-inch Nordenfelt guns
-Armor: None
-Top Speed: 10.25 knots

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Number in Service: 1 (Commissioned 1888)
-Armament: 1 × 210 mm (8 in) gun; 1 × 120 mm (4.7 in) gun; 2 × 25 mm (0.98 in) Nordenfelt guns
-Armor: None
-Top Speed: 11 knots
-Range: 60 tons coal

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Number in Service: 1 (Commissioned 1892)
-Armament: 4 × 120 mm (5 in) QF guns; 5 × 47 mm (1.9 in) Hotchkiss guns; 6 × 37 mm (1.5 in) Nordenfelt guns
-Armor: None
-Top Speed: 13 knots
-Range: 70 tons coal


IMPERIAL YACHT:
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Number in Service: 1 (Commissioned 1881)
-Armament: 4 × 4.7 inch breech-loading cannons
-Armor: None
-Top Speed: 12 knots
-Notes: Since the Emperor has expressed a disinterest in sailing, the ship is primarily used as a trainer.

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Postby Helakos » Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:32 pm

What is availible in the middle east?
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Democratic Republic of Helakos/ Λαϊκή Δημοκρατία της ελάκος
Grecian-Mediterranean State
Government: Populist Nationalist Democratic Republic
President: Kostas Vasseas
Vice President: Vlasis Mastrotzis
Capitol: Poli Helakosi

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The V O I D
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Founded: Apr 13, 2014
Father Knows Best State

Postby The V O I D » Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:33 pm

The map will be updated ASAP. I'm almost done with it. I plan for the IC to launch by the end of this weekend at earliest, sometime midweek next week at latest, so please post or finish your apps if you haven't yet.

With regards to the Middle East:
Greater Liverpool wrote:Can I reserve Persia, Iraq, and the rest of unoccupied Arabia


Seeing as GL was the first poster to ask for it, I'll reserve the territory for the time being, but please post an app by this weekend if at all possible.

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Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Diahon » Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:46 pm

Hm. Interested. Say, if Spain is a Roman puppet state here, what happens to the colonies? Might be interested in playing the part as the Philippines.

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Postby Wysten » Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:07 am

Can one play the Spanish Partisans?
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