Refusing requested treatment when it is indicated, regardless of your personal convictions as a doctor, is unethical medical praxis.
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by Heavens Reach » Sun Apr 25, 2021 7:03 am
by Daarwyrth » Sun Apr 25, 2021 7:09 am
by Philimbesi » Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:40 am
they should seriously reconsider if they truly want to become or be a doctor."
by Daarwyrth » Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:52 am
Philimbesi wrote:they should seriously reconsider if they truly want to become or be a doctor."
They should reconsider if they truly want to become a doctor whose specialty involves the abortion procedure. It's utterly preposterous for a patient seeking an abortion to expect any medical professional to carry out the procedure. You wouldn't go to an eye doctor and expect them to perform a bypass procedure. A patient that expects a doctor to be an expert at every medical procedure simply because they went through medical school is being needlessly naïve.
by Separatist Peoples » Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:25 am
Daarwyrth wrote:Philimbesi wrote:
They should reconsider if they truly want to become a doctor whose specialty involves the abortion procedure. It's utterly preposterous for a patient seeking an abortion to expect any medical professional to carry out the procedure. You wouldn't go to an eye doctor and expect them to perform a bypass procedure. A patient that expects a doctor to be an expert at every medical procedure simply because they went through medical school is being needlessly naïve.
"A doctor who will be qualified to perform abortions should know that they may be called upon to perform an abortion. I am speaking of those, Ambassador, I thought that would be obvious. If such a doctor has moral or conscientious objections to abortion, it is they who are naive."
by Most Catholic Empire of Antarctica » Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:33 am
by Separatist Peoples » Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:34 am
by Daarwyrth » Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:37 am
by Outer Sparta » Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:50 am
by British Starsian Influence » Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:32 pm
Daarwyrth wrote:Most Catholic Empire of Antarctica wrote:
As is violating the hippocratic oath, death to the WA
Vyn Nysen: "I haven't read much about Catholicism, it doesn't particularly interest me as a religion, yet wasn't there a line about "love thy neighbours as thy love thyself"? A phrase such as 'death to the WA' isn't particularly Catholic, or Christian, now is it?"
by British Starsian Influence » Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:34 pm
by Outer Sparta » Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:46 pm
British Starsian Influence wrote:OOC: Look, I'm sorry if I seem like a radical about this issue. I'm a Christian, but not a far-right extremist; I've seen too much of that Trumpist rhetoric warp and destroy the Church.
by Daarwyrth » Sun Apr 25, 2021 2:04 pm
British Starsian Influence wrote:Daarwyrth wrote:Vyn Nysen: "I haven't read much about Catholicism, it doesn't particularly interest me as a religion, yet wasn't there a line about "love thy neighbours as thy love thyself"? A phrase such as 'death to the WA' isn't particularly Catholic, or Christian, now is it?"
You're right, Ambassador, it isn't, but your opponent is right also. It can be argued that this proposal violates the Hippocratic Oath because it means that doctors cannot faithfully look after their patient's wellbeing. If it wasn't for this clause, I might be able to support this bill ; since it's included--since it forces doctors, albeit ones qualified to perform surgeries of this nature over their own moral and ethical code--I cannot and will not support it.
by British Starsian Influence » Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:18 pm
Outer Sparta wrote:British Starsian Influence wrote:OOC: Look, I'm sorry if I seem like a radical about this issue. I'm a Christian, but not a far-right extremist; I've seen too much of that Trumpist rhetoric warp and destroy the Church.
While you may debate about issues in the WA, you won't even get affected by what legislation they enact because you're not a member in the first place. Arguing that this resolution will fundamentally change your nation is pointless since it doesn't affect you in the first place.
by Outer Sparta » Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:21 pm
British Starsian Influence wrote:Outer Sparta wrote:While you may debate about issues in the WA, you won't even get affected by what legislation they enact because you're not a member in the first place. Arguing that this resolution will fundamentally change your nation is pointless since it doesn't affect you in the first place.
I' m a Guardian with the Order of the Grey Wardens, so I technically am in the WA, but with a puppet nation. I'm on active duty right now, so I can't be in the WA with my main. And I'm not sure that I'm arguing that this resolution will "fundamentally change my nation"; merely that I think it is immoral and unnecessary.
by Krillfederative Systems » Sun Apr 25, 2021 6:21 pm
by Opiachus » Sun Apr 25, 2021 8:18 pm
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by Outer Sparta » Sun Apr 25, 2021 8:23 pm
Krillfederative Systems wrote:I want a new abortion bill to be signed that denounces liberalism.
by Wallenburg » Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:14 pm
Repeal "On Abortion" was passed 12,186 votes to 1,806.
by Sierra Lyricalia » Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:34 pm
Wallenburg wrote:Repeal "On Abortion" was passed 12,186 votes to 1,806.
Thanks to all who supported this. Don't worry, "Repeal GAR#10" is on its way.
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