NATION

PASSWORD

Puerto Rico Statehood

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)
User avatar
Cetacea
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6240
Founded: Apr 27, 2012
Compulsory Consumerist State

Puerto Rico Statehood

Postby Cetacea » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:23 pm

So behind all the Presidential drama of Trump v Biden another vote took place recently and 52.3% of Puerto RIcans voted in favour of asking to change the island’s status from unincorporated territory to U.S. State.
This is the sixth time the PR statehood referendum has occurred, the past two votes being in favour and the 2012 vote being uncertain.

While Puerto Ricans based in America tend to vote Democrat, those on the Island are a lot more conservative and the current representative in Congress is a Republican.

The main Political Parties on the Island are essentially the Pro-Statehood New Progressives, the Pro-Status quo Popular Democrats and a third Pro-Independence party. Notably the Progressives lost support in the recent elections if thats relevant.

But only Congress can admit States to the Union, so the question is should Puerto RIco be admitted as the 51st State of the USA?
Last edited by Cetacea on Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:27 pm, edited 3 times in total.

User avatar
Farnhamia
Game Moderator
 
Posts: 108821
Founded: Jun 20, 2006
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Farnhamia » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:38 pm

I'm not sure what the exact procedure is but I believe that a petition to Congress for admission to the Union would be in order.

Do me a favor, drop your title into initial caps/lower case, please. Otherwise it looks like a shout (and you missed the "i" in "Rico").
Wash Your Damned Hands!

Freedom ... or cake. ~ Ashmoria (RIP)
Make Earth Great Again: Stop Continental Drift!
And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water ...
"Make yourself at home, Frank. Hit somebody." RIP Don Rickles
My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right. ~ Carl Schurz
<Sigh> NSG...where even the atheists are Augustinians. ~ The Archregimancy
Now the foot is on the other hand ~ Kannap
RIP Dyakovo

User avatar
Borderlands of Rojava
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 10452
Founded: Jul 27, 2020
Democratic Socialists

Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:40 pm

Most Puerto Ricans on the island vote democrat. If they didn't, Republicans would probably be fighting tooth and nail to make them the 51st state.
Leftist, commie and Antifa Guy. Democratic Confederalist, Anti-racist

"The devil is out there. Hiding behind every corner and in every nook and cranny. In all of the dives, all over the city. Before you lays an entire world of enemies, and at day's end when the chips are down, we're a society of strangers. You cant walk by someone on the street anymore without crossing the road to get away from their stare. Welcome to the Twilight Zone. The land of plague and shadow. Nothing innocent survives this world. If it can't corrupt you, it'll kill you."

User avatar
Zarnicovia nova
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6170
Founded: Jun 03, 2020
Democratic Socialists

Postby Zarnicovia nova » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:42 pm

Washington D.C and Puerto Rico should be US states.
to make an embassy with zarnicovia nova go to viewtopic.php?f=6&t=490604
if you wanna buy from my shop go to viewtopic.php?f=6&t=490229
Q&A here! viewtopic.php?f=23&t=491532
airport viewtopic.php?f=6&t=491681
country founded by a religion based off of my and the views of Utah/the Mormons. far-left democracy very powerful.

I DO NOT USE NS STATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BREACKING NEWS: go to viewtopic.php?f=5&t=492337 to see BREAKING NEWS

User avatar
Insaanistan
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8135
Founded: Nov 18, 2019
New York Times Democracy

Postby Insaanistan » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:42 pm

¡Eso! Boricuas necesitan un estado.
السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركته-Peace be with you!
BLM - Free Palestine - Abolish Kafala - Boycott Israel - Trump lost
Anti: DAESH & friends, IR Govt, Saudi Govt, Israeli Govt, China, anti-semitism, homophobia, racism, sexism, Fascism, Communism, Islamophobia.

Hello brother (or sister),
Unapologetic Muslim American
I’m neither a terrorist nor Iranian.
Ace-ish (Hate it when my friends are right!)
TG for questions on Islam!

User avatar
South Acren
Minister
 
Posts: 2067
Founded: Dec 19, 2017
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby South Acren » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:42 pm

I see no reason not too, they basically are the unofficial 51st state anyway from what I hear. They at least deserve to be a state.
"Gott Mit Uns!"
Welcome to South Acren, where we praise the Lord and pass the ammunition. Literally. You want a summary of who we are? Take the Imperium of Man, make it German, and have a strong connection to God and have them wander the multiverse, looking for worlds to explore.
General Info

User avatar
Garkland
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 447
Founded: Jan 20, 2021
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Garkland » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:46 pm

Zarnicovia nova wrote:Washington D.C and Puerto Rico should be US states.



True, citizens of D.C pay one of the highest tax rates in America yet has a representive that cannot even vote on important matters in congress? D.C must be a state!

User avatar
Thermodolia
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 64497
Founded: Oct 07, 2011
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:46 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Most Puerto Ricans on the island vote democrat. If they didn't, Republicans would probably be fighting tooth and nail to make them the 51st state.

Actually it’s a mix. The former governor of PR was a republican and the current house rep is also a republican. If it became a state the senate would probably split 50/50 while the republicans would gain between 1-3 representatives. With democrats having the same margin of 1-3
Male, Titoist cultural nationalist, lives somewhere in the Deep South, give me any good Irish, Canadian, or Scottish whiskey and I will be your friend for life. I'm GAY! US Military Veteran
I'm agent #69 in the Gaystapo!
>The Sons of Adam: I'd crown myself monarch... cuz why not?
>>Dumb Ideologies: Why not turn yourself into a penguin and build an igloo at the centre of the Earth?
>Xovland: I keep getting ads for printer ink. Sometimes, when you get that feeling down there, you have to look at some steamy printer pictures.
Click for Da Funies
Click Here for RP Info Embassy Program
Ambassadors to the WA: Senior Eve Šanœ, Junior Jon Æthr

RIP Dya

User avatar
Albrenia
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16236
Founded: Aug 18, 2017
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Albrenia » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:59 pm

They should be a state. No taxation without representation, yo.

User avatar
Atheris
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5315
Founded: Oct 05, 2018
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Atheris » Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:01 pm

I personally think that both it and DC should be the latest states in the Union. "No taxation without representation" still stands.
Kannap wrote:It is I, the stranger in the night who cuts the power lines with hedge clippers
Valentine Z wrote:**a m b i e n c e**
YESSSSSSSSSS! YESSSSSSSSS! YESSSSSSSSSSSSS! IT'S COMING! IT'S COMING! IT'S COMING! YUFFIE! YUFFIE! MORE FF7R! MORE FF7R! YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
The self-proclaimed Resident Shitposter of NSG.
Proudly sex-repulsed ace and bisensual aro. Cis he/him. Trans ally. ADHD.
"To comment is human, to preview, divine." - Godot
Orthodox Preterist non-denominational Christian Universalist.
I write fanfiction (of the non-explicit kind). Fuck you if you judge me.
Pirate Politics are fucking awesome.

User avatar
Trollzyn the Infinite
Senator
 
Posts: 4945
Founded: Aug 22, 2018
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:12 pm

All for it. Puerto Ricans are a chill, hard-working people and Puerto Rico deserves statehood.
☆ American Patriot ☆ Civic Nationalist ☆ Rocker & Metalhead ☆ Heretical Christian ☆
"My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right."

Reminder that Donald J. Trump is officially a traitor to the United States of America as of January 6th, 2021
The Paradox of Tolerance
永远不会忘记1989年6月4日天安门广场大屠杀
Ես Արցախի կողքին եմ
Wanted Fugitive of the Chinese Communist Party

User avatar
Senkaku
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 20742
Founded: Sep 01, 2012
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Senkaku » Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:13 pm

Either get them in, or get them out, but no more of this neocolonialist bullshit please
haters will see you growing on a finite planet and say you can't grow infinitely

User avatar
Arisyan
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 161
Founded: Apr 05, 2020
Democratic Socialists

Postby Arisyan » Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:16 pm

Ah yes, the thread I have been waiting for. I wholeheartedly support making Puerto Rico a state, as it has more people in it then 29 states and territories. 29!. And yes, the referendum also gets my full support and I hope Biden will go through with finally making it a state. Though with the Popular Democratic Parties recent victory in its state legislative election, im surprised this referendum was allowed to go through.
Pro: Environmentalism, Eco-Socialism, Democratic Socialism, Social Democracy,Progressivism, Pro-choice, Pro-LGTBQ+ rights, Immigration, Bernie Sanders,Secularism, Palestine And Israel, Internationalism, Alter-Globalization.
Anti: Conservatism, Traditionalism, Bigotry, TERF movement, Fascism, Stalinism, Totalitarianism, Laissez-faire capitalism, Libertarianism, Bolsonaro, Religious Fundamentalism, Nationalism


Judge of Callista
left-wing socialist
Anatoliyanskiy's OOC nation he uses to debate on NSG.

User avatar
Borderlands of Rojava
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 10452
Founded: Jul 27, 2020
Democratic Socialists

Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:43 pm

Let my people in.
Leftist, commie and Antifa Guy. Democratic Confederalist, Anti-racist

"The devil is out there. Hiding behind every corner and in every nook and cranny. In all of the dives, all over the city. Before you lays an entire world of enemies, and at day's end when the chips are down, we're a society of strangers. You cant walk by someone on the street anymore without crossing the road to get away from their stare. Welcome to the Twilight Zone. The land of plague and shadow. Nothing innocent survives this world. If it can't corrupt you, it'll kill you."

User avatar
Atheris
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5315
Founded: Oct 05, 2018
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Atheris » Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:50 pm

Arisyan wrote:Ah yes, the thread I have been waiting for. I wholeheartedly support making Puerto Rico a state, as it has more people in it then 29 states and territories. 29!. And yes, the referendum also gets my full support and I hope Biden will go through with finally making it a state. Though with the Popular Democratic Parties recent victory in its state legislative election, im surprised this referendum was allowed to go through.

Eh, referendums don't always work. Catalonia, DC.
Kannap wrote:It is I, the stranger in the night who cuts the power lines with hedge clippers
Valentine Z wrote:**a m b i e n c e**
YESSSSSSSSSS! YESSSSSSSSS! YESSSSSSSSSSSSS! IT'S COMING! IT'S COMING! IT'S COMING! YUFFIE! YUFFIE! MORE FF7R! MORE FF7R! YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
The self-proclaimed Resident Shitposter of NSG.
Proudly sex-repulsed ace and bisensual aro. Cis he/him. Trans ally. ADHD.
"To comment is human, to preview, divine." - Godot
Orthodox Preterist non-denominational Christian Universalist.
I write fanfiction (of the non-explicit kind). Fuck you if you judge me.
Pirate Politics are fucking awesome.

User avatar
Forsher
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 17738
Founded: Jan 30, 2012
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Forsher » Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:55 pm

Given the way that "democracy" works in the US, it's disgusting that Puerto Rico, Washington DC, American Samoa and the rest aren't states or aren't part of states.
That it Could be What it Is, Is What it Is

Stop making shit up, though. Links, or it's a God-damn lie and you know it.

The normie life is heteronormie

We won't know until 2053 when it'll be really obvious what he should've done. [...] We have no option but to guess.

User avatar
Philjia
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 10539
Founded: Sep 15, 2014
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Philjia » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:50 pm

No adult citizen of the US should be unable to exercise the right to vote in federal elections. Whatever legal institutions are necessary to ensure that right should be established forthwith.
Slime City wrote:The ones are the gallows and the zeroes are the noose and the branch is unforgiving and it's rotting at the roots

⚧ Gender and sex aren't the same thing. ⚧
Pragmatic utopian socialist, IE I'm for whatever kind of socialism is the most moral and practical. Pro LGBT rights and gay marriage, pro gay adoption, generally internationalist, ambivalent on the EU, atheist, pro free speech and expression, pro legalisation of prostitution and soft drugs, and pro choice. Anti authoritarian, anti bigotry, anti radfem. White cishet male.

User avatar
The Spook Who Sat By The Door
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 43
Founded: Jan 05, 2021
Father Knows Best State

Postby The Spook Who Sat By The Door » Sun Jan 24, 2021 5:09 pm

Puerto Rico should become a state and except for the Constitutionally mandated areas, DC should be ceded back to Maryland.
Beware of the hand when it's coming from the Left,
I ain't trippin', just watch your step. Can't truss it!

User avatar
Atheris
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5315
Founded: Oct 05, 2018
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Atheris » Sun Jan 24, 2021 5:11 pm

The Spook Who Sat By The Door wrote:Puerto Rico should become a state and except for the Constitutionally mandated areas, DC should be ceded back to Maryland.

DC should be ceded back to Virginia.
Kannap wrote:It is I, the stranger in the night who cuts the power lines with hedge clippers
Valentine Z wrote:**a m b i e n c e**
YESSSSSSSSSS! YESSSSSSSSS! YESSSSSSSSSSSSS! IT'S COMING! IT'S COMING! IT'S COMING! YUFFIE! YUFFIE! MORE FF7R! MORE FF7R! YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
The self-proclaimed Resident Shitposter of NSG.
Proudly sex-repulsed ace and bisensual aro. Cis he/him. Trans ally. ADHD.
"To comment is human, to preview, divine." - Godot
Orthodox Preterist non-denominational Christian Universalist.
I write fanfiction (of the non-explicit kind). Fuck you if you judge me.
Pirate Politics are fucking awesome.

User avatar
Borderlands of Rojava
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 10452
Founded: Jul 27, 2020
Democratic Socialists

Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Jan 24, 2021 5:12 pm

Atheris wrote:
The Spook Who Sat By The Door wrote:Puerto Rico should become a state and except for the Constitutionally mandated areas, DC should be ceded back to Maryland.

DC should be ceded back to Virginia.


So this is how the second Civil War starts. Not due to Trump but due to this question.
Leftist, commie and Antifa Guy. Democratic Confederalist, Anti-racist

"The devil is out there. Hiding behind every corner and in every nook and cranny. In all of the dives, all over the city. Before you lays an entire world of enemies, and at day's end when the chips are down, we're a society of strangers. You cant walk by someone on the street anymore without crossing the road to get away from their stare. Welcome to the Twilight Zone. The land of plague and shadow. Nothing innocent survives this world. If it can't corrupt you, it'll kill you."

User avatar
Zarnicovia nova
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6170
Founded: Jun 03, 2020
Democratic Socialists

Postby Zarnicovia nova » Sun Jan 24, 2021 5:13 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Atheris wrote:DC should be ceded back to Virginia.


So this is how the second Civil War starts. Not due to Trump but due to this question.

LOL
to make an embassy with zarnicovia nova go to viewtopic.php?f=6&t=490604
if you wanna buy from my shop go to viewtopic.php?f=6&t=490229
Q&A here! viewtopic.php?f=23&t=491532
airport viewtopic.php?f=6&t=491681
country founded by a religion based off of my and the views of Utah/the Mormons. far-left democracy very powerful.

I DO NOT USE NS STATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BREACKING NEWS: go to viewtopic.php?f=5&t=492337 to see BREAKING NEWS

User avatar
Aeritai
Minister
 
Posts: 2071
Founded: Oct 25, 2018
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Aeritai » Sun Jan 24, 2021 5:13 pm

It wouldn't hurt to add a extra star to the flag.
This is the main nation of the user behind Area 6-Z
Note: If my replies to you in F7 are low-effort or I made a mistake please let know! I want to better myself when it comes to responding to others!
I am a Human Male

User avatar
Atheris
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5315
Founded: Oct 05, 2018
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Atheris » Sun Jan 24, 2021 5:14 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Atheris wrote:DC should be ceded back to Virginia.


So this is how the second Civil War starts. Not due to Trump but due to this question.

ahem

YOU'LL ALWAYS BE OUR GREAT VIRGINIA
YOU'RE THE BIRTHPLACE OF THE NATION
WHERE HISTORY WAS CHANGED FOREVER
TODAY YOUR GLORY STAYS AS WE BUILD TOMORROW

I FILL WITH PRIDE AT ALL YOU GIVE US
ROLLING HILLS, MAJESTIC MOUNTAINS
FROM THE SHNANDOAH TO THE ATLANTIC
RIVERS WIDE AND FORESTS TALL ALL IN ONE VIRGINIA

FROM FARM TO CITY DWELLER
ALL OF US WE STAND TOGETHER
WE'RE YOURS, WE ALLA RE YOURS
ACROSS OUR GREAT VIRGINIA

YOU'LL ALWAYS BE OUR GREAT VIRGINIA
Kannap wrote:It is I, the stranger in the night who cuts the power lines with hedge clippers
Valentine Z wrote:**a m b i e n c e**
YESSSSSSSSSS! YESSSSSSSSS! YESSSSSSSSSSSSS! IT'S COMING! IT'S COMING! IT'S COMING! YUFFIE! YUFFIE! MORE FF7R! MORE FF7R! YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
The self-proclaimed Resident Shitposter of NSG.
Proudly sex-repulsed ace and bisensual aro. Cis he/him. Trans ally. ADHD.
"To comment is human, to preview, divine." - Godot
Orthodox Preterist non-denominational Christian Universalist.
I write fanfiction (of the non-explicit kind). Fuck you if you judge me.
Pirate Politics are fucking awesome.

User avatar
Zarnicovia nova
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6170
Founded: Jun 03, 2020
Democratic Socialists

Postby Zarnicovia nova » Sun Jan 24, 2021 5:15 pm

Atheris wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
So this is how the second Civil War starts. Not due to Trump but due to this question.

ahem

YOU'LL ALWAYS BE OUR GREAT VIRGINIA
YOU'RE THE BIRTHPLACE OF THE NATION
WHERE HISTORY WAS CHANGED FOREVER
TODAY YOUR GLORY STAYS AS WE BUILD TOMORROW

I FILL WITH PRIDE AT ALL YOU GIVE US
ROLLING HILLS, MAJESTIC MOUNTAINS
FROM THE SHNANDOAH TO THE ATLANTIC
RIVERS WIDE AND FORESTS TALL ALL IN ONE VIRGINIA

FROM FARM TO CITY DWELLER
ALL OF US WE STAND TOGETHER
WE'RE YOURS, WE ALLA RE YOURS
ACROSS OUR GREAT VIRGINIA

YOU'LL ALWAYS BE OUR GREAT VIRGINIA

UTAH SHALL ANNEX THE WHOLE OF THE US BECAUSE WE HAVE THE BEST SKYING!
to make an embassy with zarnicovia nova go to viewtopic.php?f=6&t=490604
if you wanna buy from my shop go to viewtopic.php?f=6&t=490229
Q&A here! viewtopic.php?f=23&t=491532
airport viewtopic.php?f=6&t=491681
country founded by a religion based off of my and the views of Utah/the Mormons. far-left democracy very powerful.

I DO NOT USE NS STATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BREACKING NEWS: go to viewtopic.php?f=5&t=492337 to see BREAKING NEWS

User avatar
Pasong Tirad
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 10279
Founded: May 31, 2007
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Pasong Tirad » Sun Jan 24, 2021 5:15 pm

Ideally, Puerto Rico should be set free and not kept in this neocolonial status quo. Alternatively, full statehood sure.

Cetacea wrote:The main Political Parties on the Island are essentially the Pro-Statehood New Progressives, the Pro-Status quo Popular Democrats and a third Pro-Independence party. Notably the Progressives lost support in the recent elections if thats relevant.

The "progressives" who should really be considered progressive in name only, lost support thanks to the actually progressive, based and left-wing Citizens' Victory Movement.

Next

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Auzkhia, Ayverin, Great Pacific Switzerland, Greater Miami Shores, Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum, Kowani, Ronatotapi, Shov Scien

Advertisement

Remove ads