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[Ready to submit] Prohibition Of Mass Digital Surveillance

Postby Greater Cesnica » Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:08 pm

Category: Civil Rights
Strength: Significant
The General Assembly,

Acknowledging that the specific targeting of private digital communications pertaining to certain individuals may be justified in the interest of protecting the general public,

Noting, however, that the practice of mass digital surveillance has not been demonstrated to prevent acts of terrorism or other unlawful activities to any meaningful degree,

Aware that data collected from mass digital surveillance is at risk of being accessed or stolen by unauthorized entities, with such data collection thus posing a risk to the integrity of private communications and data,

Seeking to preserve the guarantee to personal privacy and prevent violations of civil liberties,

Hereby,

  1. Defines:
    1. "Targeted digital surveillance" as the surveillance of digital devices or digital communications within the scope of targeting specific individuals due to a particular suspicion of unlawful activities having been committed or being planned, and
    2. "Mass digital surveillance" as any surveillance of digital devices or digital communications beyond the scope of targeted digital surveillance,
  2. Prohibits member states from carrying out mass digital surveillance,
  3. Clarifies that:
    1. The particular suspicion of unlawful activities needed to perform targeted digital surveillance on specific individuals shall not be primarily based on an individual's religion, sexuality, race, nationality, gender identity, or any other arbitrary, reductive categorization, and that
    2. The use of closed-circuit television cameras for surveillance purposes does not constitute "mass digital surveillance".
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:08 pm

The General Assembly,

Acknowledging that while the specific targeting of private communications pertaining to certain individuals may be justified in the interest of protecting the general public, the practice of mass surveillance cannot be tolerated by this Assembly,

Seeking to preserve the guarantee to personal privacy and prevent violations of civil liberties,

Hereby,

  1. Defines mass surveillance as the indiscriminate execution of surveillance upon a large or limitless group of individuals irrespective of any specific suspicion of wrongdoing, and
  2. Prohibits member states from carrying out mass surveillance upon any group or population of people for any reason.
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The General Assembly,

Acknowledging that while the specific targeting of private communications pertaining to certain individuals may be justified in the interest of protecting the general public, the practice of mass surveillance cannot be tolerated by this Assembly,

Seeking to preserve the guarantee to personal privacy and prevent violations of civil liberties,

Hereby,

  1. Prohibits member states from indiscriminately carrying out surveillance upon a large group of individuals, irrespective of any specific suspicion of wrongdoing, for any reason.
Collapsed definition and prohibition into single clause.
The General Assembly,

Acknowledging that the specific targeting of private digital communications pertaining to certain individuals may be justified in the interest of protecting the general public,

Noting, however, that the practice of mass digital surveillance has not been demonstrated to prevent acts of terrorism or other unlawful activities to any meaningful degree,

Aware that data collected from mass digital surveillance is at risk of being accessed or stolen by unauthorized entities, with such data collection thus posing a risk to the integrity of private communications and data,

Seeking to preserve the guarantee to personal privacy and prevent violations of civil liberties,

Hereby,

  1. Defines "mass digital surveillance" as any surveillance of digital devices or digital communications where the scope of such surveillance is beyond that of targeting specific individuals due to a particular suspicion of unlawful activities having been committed or being planned; with surveillance within the scope of targeting specific individuals due to a particular suspicion of unlawful activities being defined as "targeted digital surveillance",
  2. Prohibits member states from carrying out digital mass surveillance,
  3. Clarifies that the particular suspicion of unlawful activities needed to perform targeted digital surveillance on specific individuals shall not be primarily based on the basis of an individual's religion, sexuality, race, nationality, gender identity, or any other arbitrary, reductive categorization.
Change of scope of draft, full re-write.
The General Assembly,

Acknowledging that the specific targeting of private digital communications pertaining to certain individuals may be justified in the interest of protecting the general public,

Noting, however, that the practice of mass digital surveillance has not been demonstrated to prevent acts of terrorism or other unlawful activities to any meaningful degree,

Aware that data collected from mass digital surveillance is at risk of being accessed or stolen by unauthorized entities, with such data collection thus posing a risk to the integrity of private communications and data,

Seeking to preserve the guarantee to personal privacy and prevent violations of civil liberties,

Hereby,

  1. Defines "mass digital surveillance" as any surveillance of digital devices or digital communications where the scope of such surveillance is beyond that of targeting specific individuals due to a particular suspicion of unlawful activities having been committed or being planned; with surveillance within the scope of targeting specific individuals due to a particular suspicion of unlawful activities being defined as "targeted digital surveillance",
  2. Prohibits member states from carrying out mass digital surveillance,
  3. Clarifies that:
    1. The particular suspicion of unlawful activities needed to perform targeted digital surveillance on specific individuals shall not be primarily based on the basis of an individual's religion, sexuality, race, nationality, gender identity, or any other arbitrary, reductive categorization, and that
    2. The use of closed-circuit television cameras for surveillance in public spaces does not constitute "digital mass surveillance".
Clarification concerning use of CCTV cameras
The General Assembly,

Acknowledging that the specific targeting of private digital communications pertaining to certain individuals may be justified in the interest of protecting the general public,

Noting, however, that the practice of mass digital surveillance has not been demonstrated to prevent acts of terrorism or other unlawful activities to any meaningful degree,

Aware that data collected from mass digital surveillance is at risk of being accessed or stolen by unauthorized entities, with such data collection thus posing a risk to the integrity of private communications and data,

Seeking to preserve the guarantee to personal privacy and prevent violations of civil liberties,

Hereby,

  1. Defines:
    1. "Targeted digital surveillance" as the surveillance of digital devices or digital communications within the scope of targeting specific individuals due to a particular suspicion of unlawful activities having been committed or being planned, and
    2. "Mass digital surveillance" as any surveillance of digital devices or digital communications beyond the scope of targeted digital surveillance,
  2. Prohibits member states from carrying out mass digital surveillance,
  3. Clarifies that:
    1. The particular suspicion of unlawful activities needed to perform targeted digital surveillance on specific individuals shall not be primarily based on an individual's religion, sexuality, race, nationality, gender identity, or any other arbitrary, reductive categorization, and that
    2. The use of closed-circuit television cameras for surveillance in public spaces does not constitute "digital mass surveillance".
Re-structured definitions for clarity.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:58 pm

"Define large group for me, ambassador. It's a subjective measure, after all. What is a large group to you?"

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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:09 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:"Define large group for me, ambassador. It's a subjective measure, after all. What is a large group to you?"

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Postby Honeydewistania » Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:32 pm

the practice of mass surveillance cannot be tolerated by this Assembly,


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Postby Bananaistan » Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:14 pm

"Opposed. CCTV in public areas which capture images of everyone are vital deterrents to criminal behaviour."
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:26 pm

Bananaistan wrote:"Opposed. CCTV in public areas which capture images of everyone are vital deterrents to criminal behaviour."

Concurred on this one. There is no reasonable expectation of privacy in a public space.
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Postby Scalizagasti » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:00 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:
Bananaistan wrote:"Opposed. CCTV in public areas which capture images of everyone are vital deterrents to criminal behaviour."

Concurred on this one. There is no reasonable expectation of privacy in a public space.

"I agree, the security issues which are created from a blanket ban on all surveillance are far too severe. I would not want an airport or government office building to be free of surveillance methods like cameras or identification cards."
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[Draft] Prohibition Of Mass Surveillance

Postby Deacarsia » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:02 pm

I strongly support this idea.
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Postby Occentia » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:24 pm

"Ambassador, wouldn't an outright ban on surveillance necessitate such drastic change that a "mild" strength is too much of an understatement? Doing so would, like the ambassador from Scalizagasti noted, leave vital government and public infrastructure exposed to an attack. If anything, the ban on surveillance would create a more militarized society, as entities would be compelled to hire more guards to protect said facilities and eliminate any potential blind spots that may have been created. For those reasons and many more, I refuse to endorse this proposal."
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Postby Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:28 pm

"I am not willing to support this ambassador, as spying on our subjects citizens is vital for our national security interests."

OOC: Why are your drafts so much simpler and smaller than most WA resolutions?
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Postby Tinfect » Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:36 pm

"The Imperium," said Feren, again absent the remainder of the Imperial delegation, "Would ask what, exactly, is considered surveillance, or a 'large group' for that matter. Internal Security personnel are recording their activities at all times for reasons of accountability and coordination; centers of public activity are monitored in the event emergency services or Internal Security intervention is necessary, as are Government facilities, for obvious reasons; are these considered 'surveillance' of 'large groups'? Is Imperial orbital infrastructure that provides location and mapping information to civilians such?

Strict definitions are a good thing, Ambassador; without them, this draft is either entirely meaningless, or anathema to advanced society."
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This is most definitely not mild.
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Postby Dusendord » Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:28 am

It won't go well with more authoritative nations
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Wed Feb 03, 2021 5:14 pm

Just re-thought and re-wrote this draft.
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Postby Somiens-et-Haveras » Thu Feb 04, 2021 1:08 am

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Category: Civil Rights
Strength: Significant
The General Assembly,

Acknowledging that the specific targeting of private digital communications pertaining to certain individuals may be justified in the interest of protecting the general public,

Noting, however, that the practice of mass digital surveillance has not been demonstrated to prevent acts of terrorism or other unlawful activities to any meaningful degree,

Aware that data collected from mass digital surveillance is at risk of being accessed or stolen by unauthorized entities, with such data collection thus posing a risk to the integrity of private communications and data,

Seeking to preserve the guarantee to personal privacy and prevent violations of civil liberties,

Hereby,

  1. Defines "mass digital surveillance" as any surveillance of digital devices or digital communications where the scope of such surveillance is beyond that of targeting specific individuals due to a particular suspicion of unlawful activities having been committed or being planned; with surveillance within the scope of targeting specific individuals due to a particular suspicion of unlawful activities being defined as "targeted digital surveillance",
  2. Prohibits member states from carrying out digital mass surveillance,
  3. Clarifies that the particular suspicion of unlawful activities needed to perform targeted digital surveillance on specific individuals shall not be primarily based on the basis of an individual's religion, sexuality, race, nationality, gender identity, or any other arbitrary, reductive categorization.


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Postby CoraSpia » Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:54 am

"A short proposal that makes perfect sense and deserves to pass. There is no excuse for a state constantly spying on its citizens, or having the ability to read their personal data without permission."
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Postby ImperialRussia » Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:57 am

Seems ok in America but not in China where everything is monitored and watched with there highly advanced camera system.

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Postby CoraSpia » Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:58 am

ImperialRussia wrote:Seems ok in America but not in China where everything is monitored and watched with there highly advanced camera system.

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Postby Greater Cesnica » Thu Feb 04, 2021 4:56 am

ImperialRussia wrote:Seems ok in America but not in China where everything is monitored and watched with there highly advanced camera system.

OOC: If we want to get into discussion of real life countries, America actually carries out some pretty egregious mass surveillance programs. Look up the NSA's PRISM program.
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Postby Araraukar » Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:05 am

Greater Cesnica wrote:2. Prohibits member states from carrying out mass digital surveillance,

OOC: You could add "without duly informing the general public about it" or something to the end to make it not apply to security cameras. Because at least over here you need to have a warning about a location having camera surveillance.
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Postby CoraSpia » Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:24 am

Araraukar wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:2. Prohibits member states from carrying out mass digital surveillance,

OOC: You could add "without duly informing the general public about it" or something to the end to make it not apply to security cameras. Because at least over here you need to have a warning about a location having camera surveillance.

((OOC: a prohibition of security cameras would be pretty nice though. Also, this could create loopholes where a government regularly mentions that all internet traffic is logged. Doesn't make logging the traffic better though.))
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Postby Araraukar » Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:56 am

CoraSpia wrote:((OOC: a prohibition of security cameras would be pretty nice though.

OOC: But it would likely make this impossible to pass, hence trying to help.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:17 am

Araraukar wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:2. Prohibits member states from carrying out mass digital surveillance,

OOC: You could add "without duly informing the general public about it" or something to the end to make it not apply to security cameras. Because at least over here you need to have a warning about a location having camera surveillance.

OOC: This does not apply to security cameras in its present state. The first draft did, yes. I'm going to try to tackle more broad surveillance methods in another draft.
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Postby Araraukar » Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:50 am

Greater Cesnica wrote:OOC: This does not apply to security cameras in its present state. The first draft did, yes. I'm going to try to tackle more broad surveillance methods in another draft.

OOC: Yet "any surveillance of digital devices ... where the scope of such surveillance is beyond that of targeting specific individuals" does catch digital security cameras, which in RL are the vast majority these days.
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