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Does YN have secret courts?

Postby Molither » Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:13 pm

Molither has secret courts for those accused of sedition and terrorism offenses.

Unlike in our normal courts the details of the proceedings are kept secret, and there has even been allegations of torture.

Journalists are not allowed access to the secret courts either.
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Postby Toin » Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:25 pm

All tribunals in the Democratic States of Toin are accessible to the public, however, during the COVID-19 pandemic, in-person viewings were prohibited, except the immediate family members of either party, instead preferring to stream sessions virtually. A court record is always maintained.
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Postby Mevraq » Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:29 pm

There is one secret court system, the Clandestine Courts, which handle cases involving national security. The proceedings of the Clandestine Courts are reviewed by the People's Commission on Clandestine Affairs, which also provides oversight to the intelligence and national security apparatus.

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Postby Dytarma » Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:38 pm

There are no secret courts, often they're ordered by the King to be executed or forced confrontations with sub-humans.

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Postby El-Sallia » Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:42 pm

No; even if a publication ban is enforced, it is inevitably lifted.
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Postby Lavan Tiri » Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:49 pm

If the case is deemed to involve sensitive and dangerous information by the Judiciary, then the judges hearing it may request permission from the People's Advocate to hold a Closed Trial, wherein only the judges, the parties involved, their respective attorneys, the People's Advocate, the Monarch, the Chancellor, the President, and the Judiciary Minister are allowed (and required) to witness.
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Postby Alpinumtia » Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:51 pm

Yes. to a certain extent. When the defendant is accused of high crimes such as treason they do not have the right to a public trial or jury. Most of the defendants ended up committing suicide. There are rumors circulating on the internet that they are "suicided" in which they are killed by officials, however publishing the findings are deemed risky. The rumor started with the suicide of Major General Albrecht Beck who held evidence of Chancellor Alicia Hansen's military service record . Some conspiracist on the internet believes that Chancellor Hansen was commissioned even though she was not eligible as she was accused of violation of the code of conduct. However there is no public evidence of this and it is confirmed that Major General Albrecht Beck will release records of Hansen before he was arrested for high treason, although no official statement is given. This had a legal precedent on Alpinumtia although this type of behavior is outlawed by the 13th Annual Council of the Commons meeting, a public statement must be given and evidence must be showed to the public, unless it contains details of national security.
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Postby Greater Eireann » Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:54 pm

Absolutely not, we view this as having far too much potential to lead to cruelty against the accused, and far too similar to the very nations we are locked in cold war with currently.
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Postby Drongonia » Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:56 pm

No, as court records are publicly available except when name suppression has been granted. Even then, a redacted version of the court's minutes is available.

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Postby Tilminese Federation » Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:12 pm

We don’t really have a justice system at all. When you are suspected of a crime, you are immediately punished(usually from death by burning) without any due process. The punishment is determined in secret by the state, so that could technically count as a ‘secret court’.
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Postby UniversalCommons » Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:52 pm

No, we do not. We like to expose our ridiculousness and harsh judgements for terrorists, slavers, secret agents and such. Many of our executions are very public.

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Postby Great Nortend » Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:53 am

Sittings of the Court of Great Council are not open to the general public. However, they are open to members of the Great Council such as MPs.
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Postby Republica Federal de Catalunya » Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:40 am

Well no, There are "technical" or professional courts composed of members of the judicature, without jury that judge offenses of high complexity that require a lot of time and important knowledge or there is risk the jury could be coerced: As corruption, economic delicts, environmental offenses, urbanization offenses, espionage, organized crimes, terrorism, etc.

Also, the defense can demand for a trial without jury. If it has been a lot mediatical noise around a high profile case and believes that a jury could have be influenced to believe that the judged one is guilty, as a suspected serial killer or rapist.

Anyway journalists and cameras can access the court and there are registries, that are publicly available, what happens in the court is registered, except in cases of high profile were the content could be sensitive. Anyway defense has the same guarantees than in a court with jury and can also sue to a higher court.
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Postby Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:42 am

Not yet but the idea has been proposed for espionage, terrorism, treason and offences relating to organised drug trafficking.
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Postby Greater Victora » Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:11 pm

The Imperial Inquisition maintains its own dark cabals and secret courts. The organization is beyond the purview of the Parliament and is de facto independent from the High Council (yet the Inquisition must often bend knee to the Prime Minister in order to retain representation on the High Council).

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Postby Demotek » Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:39 pm

Sorta. We have the Restricted Courts, which is basically for crimes of top security or other classified information. It's generally not open to the public and access to the information is classified. The jury is selected from a mix of certain individuals and so on.

Despite the intrigue, they still function like normal courts, if with just more secrecy. Everything is recorded and documented and even most of the Restricted Court cases are released into the public database minimum a decade after everything is established and settled. You have to come up with some serious misgivings to end up here though.

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Postby Coconut Palm Island » Fri Jan 29, 2021 4:35 pm

In Coconut Palm Island, trials are videotaped but are generally conducted semi-privately, to protect the confidentiality of the accused and/or the victim. The following rules apply:
  • The trial is generally private, unless either: (1) The judge rules there is a significant public interest in seeing the trial, OR (2) the defendant asks to be tried in public, because they are afraid of not getting a fair trial.
  • Applications for arrest and/or search warrants are videotaped and sealed, but a recording of the procedures is released to the subject at the time it is served (along with the warrant itself) so illegal warrants can be challenged.
  • In all situations, victims of certain crimes such as sexual assault reserve the right to request that their face be blurred, their voice distorted, and certain personally identifying information (ex. address) bleeped out. Even if a defendant chooses to make their trial public,
  • Certain national security proceedings may be conducted in confidentiality-- secret proceedings can only be presided over by one of the members of the High Court (consisting of 5 judges).
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Postby Yerbanistan » Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:42 pm

Yerbanistan has never had a tradition of open courts or transparent government. All trials are closed to the public in order to protect the confidentiality of the accuser, accused, witnesses, lawyers and judges. However, for serious crimes against the state, the sentence and execution are often publicly broadcasted.

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Postby Radiatia » Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:13 pm

Radiatia has a few secret food courts which are well hidden underground or not widely known about to the public. There are some really good curry houses and noodle shops in those secret food courts and thankfully they're not that crowded.

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Postby Apiary One » Sat Jan 30, 2021 10:13 pm

There is no judiciary in Apiary One; criminals and thought criminals are disappeared on the spot, and their whereabouts remain unknown forever.

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Postby Compassionate Centrist Christians » Sun Jan 31, 2021 6:40 am

The only thing close to a secret court would be the military courts
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Postby Estado Novo Portugues » Sun Jan 31, 2021 8:21 am

Court trials in the Holy Catholic State are not open to the general public.
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Postby Routcher » Sun Jan 31, 2021 5:48 pm

His Imperial Majesty's Courts are not open to the public, however the press is allowed access for reporting, provided they have the proper licensing.

Cases involving political leaders, members of the nobility, military command, or intelligence operatives are completely secret.
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Postby The United Confederacy of The Americas » Sun Jan 31, 2021 7:23 pm

Anybody arrested by the secret police is taken to the secret courts. Nobody is acquitted by these courts, imprisonment or death are the only options.

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Postby Aikoland » Wed Feb 03, 2021 7:34 pm

No, the closest equivalent we have to the concept of 'secret courts' would be closed investigations and trials, which are only used in cases involving matters of national security.

In an instance of a closed investigation and trial, the public retains its right to know of the investigation and trial, but not its right to know of the specific goings-on involving the case. Depending on the case, this may extend to the names of those involved being withheld from the public, with them usually being referred to by a pseudonym. Regardless of however much information is withheld from the public in a closed investigation and trial, the sentence laid down by the judge against those on trial is required to be made public.
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