A gun in every house is a must

[Adamede]

Depends on what comes after.

Without knowing what will happen, its a gamble. I like my gambles ending with me alive.

There’s always an end of the line.

[Grinning Dragon]

At the least you can a kill a few of the cunts on your way out.

Or surrender and live.

In my old age, living seems preferable to a last stand.

Well there's that, however depends on whether or not the enemy is going to execute you and a bunch of other peeps, also depends on where you are when the fighting breeches your AO, getting the hell outta dodge and regroup with others and basically "Wolverine" it. TBT, the new order isn't going to be rainbows and sunshine if the enemy establishes their version of a govt.

[Kernen]

Or surrender and live.

In my old age, living seems preferable to a last stand.

Well there's that, however depends on whether or not the enemy is going to execute you and a bunch of other peeps, also depends on where you are when the fighting breeches your AO, getting the hell outta dodge and regroup with others and basically "Wolverine" it. TBT, the new order isn't going to be rainbows and sunshine if the enemy establishes their version of a govt.

I don't love my country enough to Wolverine anything. I'd rather take it in the chest from a firing squad then bleed out in a trench. I'd rather not get shot than get shot in any capacity.

[Kernen]

Without knowing what will happen, its a gamble. I like my gambles ending with me alive.

There’s always an end of the line.

Sure but there's dying in your sleep in a bed and there's getting shot.

[Grinning Dragon]

Well there's that, however depends on whether or not the enemy is going to execute you and a bunch of other peeps, also depends on where you are when the fighting breeches your AO, getting the hell outta dodge and regroup with others and basically "Wolverine" it. TBT, the new order isn't going to be rainbows and sunshine if the enemy establishes their version of a govt.

I don't love my country enough to Wolverine anything. I'd rather take it in the chest from a firing squad then bleed out in a trench. I'd rather not get shot than get shot in any capacity.

Just fucking shit up because you can is a good enough reason. I myself couldn't just sit there and just willingly take one in the chest, I'd have to fuck shit up for as long as I could, including and not limited to, poisoning their water and food supply, toxic gas/nerve agents in their air exchange, disruption of infrastructure/communications/transportation, dressing up as one of their own and kill as many of them in their sleep especially the higher ups/commanders.

[Adamede]

There’s always an end of the line.

Sure but there's dying in your sleep in a bed and there's getting shot.

Not everyone gets that opportunity. Sometimes even if you don’t resist you get shot, or worse, anyway.
Why does it matter if your shot by a firing squad instead of being shot in some firefight?

[Kernen]

Sure but there's dying in your sleep in a bed and there's getting shot.

Not everyone gets that opportunity. Sometimes even if you don’t resist you get shot, or worse, anyway.
Why does it matter if your shot by a firing squad instead of being shot in some firefight?

Because I'm probably gonna die faster and more cleanly by a squad of soldiers who aren't trying to avoid being shot themselves, and I'm trying to avoid unnecessary pain and suffering. I'm probably not going to be partially dismembered by shrapnel or bleed out over hours if I'm lined against a wall. I'm probably going to bleed out in minutes. Seconds, even!

Plus, I probably won't have to do all that exhausting wolverine stuff either. Running around, hauling ammunition around, figuring out how to set up a bomb, drinking deer blood...No, that all sounds just terrible.

[Miku the Based]

Iife is suffering, to suffer and live is better than a painless death.
To suffer and die is to die with dignity. Don't do it for a ideal like a nation or ideology, do it for yourself.
I don't know, maybe it takes a certain spritualism like Buddhism or something to go living despite all odds and to take the hard/painful way out knowing that the easy way results in the same negative consequence only more shelfish and without dignity.

[Kubra]

Iife is suffering, to suffer and live is better than a painless death.
To suffer and die is to die with dignity. Don't do it for a ideal like a nation or ideology, do it for yourself.
I don't know, maybe it takes a certain spritualism like Buddhism or something to go living despite all odds and to take the hard/painful way out knowing that the easy way results in the same negative consequence only more shelfish and without dignity.

I'll take any path that guarantees more shelfish

[Nevertopia]

arent guns in a household statistically more likely to hurt or kill owners/other occupants than they are guarding against intruders? hmmm.

[Great Pacific Switzerland]

If you being invaded and enemy soldiers have a wipe out order on the city would you be glad a least you have guns to defend your family and along with your neighbors to create a Militia and fight against foreign invaders that reject the right that you live.

Nope, the smart thing to do is to gather your stuff, your family, your friends and get the fuck out of the war zone first. The enemy can surround the city, cut off its supplies and bomb it to shreds. I don't want to kamikaze myself by making a heroic, but stupid last stand. So long as I can live, I will always find an opportunity to fight. A surrounded city is not one.

My dad no such thing during the war. He fought to keep his family safe

[Great Pacific Switzerland]

arent guns in a household statistically more likely to hurt or kill owners/other occupants than they are guarding against intruders? hmmm.

Yeah because you have muppets like americans handle em

[Grinning Dragon]

Aren't guns in a household statistically more likely to hurt or kill owners/other occupants than they are guarding against intruders? hmmm.

More likely? No.
As with any tool there is an acceptable risk in owning one.

[Giovenith]

arent guns in a household statistically more likely to hurt or kill owners/other occupants than they are guarding against intruders? hmmm.

Yeah because you have muppets like americans handle em

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[Washington Resistance Army]

arent guns in a household statistically more likely to hurt or kill owners/other occupants than they are guarding against intruders? hmmm.

This is true of literally everything. If you have stairs in your house you have a vastly increased risk of dying at home.

[Paddy O Fernature]

arent guns in a household statistically more likely to hurt or kill owners/other occupants than they are guarding against intruders? hmmm.

This is true of literally everything. If you have stairs in your house you have a vastly increased risk of dying at home.

Also, considering even the low end of the numbers considering successful self defense estimates, I still wouldn't lend that notion any real credence beyond the standards covered under "acceptable risk".

[The Two Jerseys]

Iife is suffering, to suffer and live is better than a painless death.
To suffer and die is to die with dignity. Don't do it for a ideal like a nation or ideology, do it for yourself.
I don't know, maybe it takes a certain spritualism like Buddhism or something to go living despite all odds and to take the hard/painful way out knowing that the easy way results in the same negative consequence only more shelfish and without dignity.

I'll take any path that guarantees more shelfish

Cod wills it!

[Adamede]

arent guns in a household statistically more likely to hurt or kill owners/other occupants than they are guarding against intruders? hmmm.

More likely to die in a car crash if you own a car than someone who doesn’t.