by Muralos » Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:51 pm
by Eco-Nazbolistan » Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:59 pm
by Arisyan » Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:01 pm
by Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:02 pm
Muralos wrote:I participate in the discussion on NSG every now and then. For me, it becomes inevitably frustrating as people’s beliefs are dismissed or someone launches into a political talk show-esque spiel that- in my opinion- only invites others to rebut them with the same ferocity (which I would consider a chore to do).
So, what do you all get out of discussing things in the sometimes cold, sometimes infuriating atmosphere that is NSG? Personally, I see the responses of many people as food for thought, even if I am not always a fan of the delivery. But for those who are actively involved in arguing and rebutting, I wonder: what do you get out of doing that? Do you hope to reach an agreement/establish common ground? Change someone’s view? That brings me to another question: How often does that happen, and how can it happen more?
by Muralos » Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:02 pm
Eco-Nazbolistan wrote:Are you talking about National Socialist General on 4chan's /pol/?
by Eco-Nazbolistan » Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:08 pm
by Kowani » Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:08 pm
by Muralos » Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:10 pm
Arisyan wrote:absolutely, positively, nothing. I don't convince other people, they don't convince me. Its pointless arguing at this point.
Nakena wrote:I remember before I joined actively here I often would lurk the forums as it had interesting discussions. But the quality greatly declined in the past years tbh.
by Muralos » Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:10 pm
by The Black Forrest » Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:11 pm
by Visionary Union » Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:11 pm
by Nakena » Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:14 pm
Muralos wrote:Ah, I have heard... wonder why. More kids on the site? (no offense to them) More polarization in the US?
by Cordel One » Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:16 pm
by The Black Forrest » Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:18 pm
Visionary Union wrote:Really, more posts to the post counts. A lot people aren't aruging to actually hear the other side and change their beliefs, but to present their own opinions to try and convince others.
by Muralos » Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:22 pm
Visionary Union wrote:Really, more posts to the post counts. A lot people aren't aruging to actually hear the other side and change their beliefs, but to present their own opinions to try and convince others.
by Muralos » Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:24 pm
Nakena wrote:Muralos wrote:Ah, I have heard... wonder why. More kids on the site? (no offense to them) More polarization in the US?
Better content. Better and longer posts and more interesting discussion. Now most good users have left or are gone since a while, so its just always the same few regulars left those days. Shrinking userbase, insufficient fresh blood.Muralos wrote:Nope and not interested... I am sure NationStates beats /pol/ by a mile!
People outside NSG on NS consider NSG to be a containment board. lol
by Nakena » Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:31 pm
Muralos wrote:Nakena wrote:
Better content. Better and longer posts and more interesting discussion. Now most good users have left or are gone since a while, so its just always the same few regulars left those days. Shrinking userbase, insufficient fresh blood.
People outside NSG on NS consider NSG to be a containment board. lol
Me too, most of the time! I still think that IC stuff is more rewarding than OOC discussions as they appear on NS, though I stop by now and then.
by Nuroblav » Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:41 pm
by Muralos » Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:43 pm
Nakena wrote:Muralos wrote:Me too, most of the time! I still think that IC stuff is more rewarding than OOC discussions as they appear on NS, though I stop by now and then.
Its more rewarding because people put more effort in reading + responding.
You can write some effort or content post on NSG, short or long and it get wasted. No responses or just slided down by next page, as a dozen people make some oneliners.
Then you make one controversial trash take, ideally containing some buzzword regarding trigger issues like "guns" "gender" "race" or anything similar and you'd get a lot responses. Because people feel like inclined to make a moral or political stance against or for something. Virtue signalling. So it's a symphony (or more a cacophonia) of signalling really most of the time. And if your post doesnt contains any of that, it will likely be ignored, because lack of signal in such an environment equals invalid content that merits no response.
by Muralos » Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:14 pm
Nilokeras wrote:NSG is valuable only if you have poster's brain. If you don't then there's nothing to 'get' out of it.
by Atheris » Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:21 pm
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