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Israel Attacks Southern Damascus: Oh Dear!

Postby Insaanistan » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:11 am

Syrian state media has reported that Israel has attacked southern Damascus from the Golan Heights using Warplanes. This is the second attack in a week.
”At exactly 11:50pm … the Zionist enemy launched an air raid from the direction of the occupied Golan Heights towards southern Damascus,” resulting in “material losses”, the source was quoted as saying.

At least eight fighters operating in pro-Iran militias were killed, the UK-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said, adding the attacks targeted an arms depot and a position held by Iranian forces and their Lebanese ally Hezbollah. The nationalities of the dead were not immediately known.

Is Israel trying to scare Syria into recognizing them? Is it trying to take more of Syria? Or is it just Israel being Israel: that is, screwing up the Middle East, violating UN resolutions, and trying to instigate a conflict where they inevitably come out on top based on the senseless sectarianism, racism, and tribalism that will over take any Arab attempts to unite against Israel (that and US funded weapons)?
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Postby Magical Medical League » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:12 am

I write semi-biased comments, but I think your characterisation of Israel is a bit too much.
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Postby Nakena » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:12 am

Insaanistan wrote:Syrian state media has reported that Israel has attacked southern Damascus from the Golan Heights using Warplanes. This is the second attack in a week.
”At exactly 11:50pm … the Zionist enemy launched an air raid from the direction of the occupied Golan Heights towards southern Damascus,” resulting in “material losses”, the source was quoted as saying.

At least eight fighters operating in pro-Iran militias were killed, the UK-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said, adding the attacks targeted an arms depot and a position held by Iranian forces and their Lebanese ally Hezbollah. The nationalities of the dead were not immediately known.

Is Israel trying to scare Syria into recognizing them? Is it trying to take more of Syria? Or is it just Israel being Israel: that is, screwing up the Middle East, violating UN resolutions, and trying to instigate a conflict where they inevitably come out on top based on the senseless sectarianism, racism, and tribalism that will over take any Arab attempts to unite against Israel (that and US funded weapons)?


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Postby Magical Medical League » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:13 am

Also, I wouldn't trust sources referring to Israel as "Zionist Enemy" to be neutral, even as someone in favour of two-state solution.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:14 am

Insaanistan wrote:Syrian state media has reported that Israel has attacked southern Damascus from the Golan Heights using Warplanes. This is the second attack in a week.
”At exactly 11:50pm … the Zionist enemy launched an air raid from the direction of the occupied Golan Heights towards southern Damascus,” resulting in “material losses”, the source was quoted as saying.

At least eight fighters operating in pro-Iran militias were killed, the UK-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said, adding the attacks targeted an arms depot and a position held by Iranian forces and their Lebanese ally Hezbollah. The nationalities of the dead were not immediately known.

Is Israel trying to scare Syria into recognizing them? Is it trying to take more of Syria? Or is it just Israel being Israel: that is, screwing up the Middle East, violating UN resolutions, and trying to instigate a conflict where they inevitably come out on top based on the senseless sectarianism, racism, and tribalism that will over take any Arab attempts to unite against Israel (that and US funded weapons)?

Well, Israel is doing what it does best: destabilizing the region.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:15 am

Magical Medical League wrote:Also, I wouldn't trust sources referring to Israel as "Zionist Enemy" to be neutral, even as someone in favour of two-state solution.

... It's literally Syrian state media. Of course it's not going to be neutral. Here's Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/article/syria-c ... SKBN2843DE
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:17 am

According to Al Jazeera:

At least eight fighters operating in pro-Iran militias were killed, the UK-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said, adding the attacks targeted an arms depot and a position held by Iranian forces and their Lebanese ally Hezbollah. The nationalities of the dead were not immediately known.

Military defectors said the air raids targeted a military base in Jabal Mane Heights near the town of Kiswa, where Iranian Revolutionary Guards have long been entrenched in a rugged area almost 15km (9.3 miles) south of the centre of Damascus. The area has anti-aircraft missiles that are stationed to defend the Golan Heights along the border with Israel, the military sources said.

Earlier, the state Syrian Arab News Agency (SANA) said Syria’s air defences responded to the incoming missiles.

Reports on SANA and Syrian Al-Ikhbariya TV said Israeli warplanes struck a village in Quneitra province on the edge of the Golan Heights and in the southwest of the capital Damascus. They offered no details.


I'm concerned about the village strike.
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Postby Insaanistan » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:31 am

Greater Cesnica wrote:According to Al Jazeera:

At least eight fighters operating in pro-Iran militias were killed, the UK-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said, adding the attacks targeted an arms depot and a position held by Iranian forces and their Lebanese ally Hezbollah. The nationalities of the dead were not immediately known.

Military defectors said the air raids targeted a military base in Jabal Mane Heights near the town of Kiswa, where Iranian Revolutionary Guards have long been entrenched in a rugged area almost 15km (9.3 miles) south of the centre of Damascus. The area has anti-aircraft missiles that are stationed to defend the Golan Heights along the border with Israel, the military sources said.

Earlier, the state Syrian Arab News Agency (SANA) said Syria’s air defences responded to the incoming missiles.

Reports on SANA and Syrian Al-Ikhbariya TV said Israeli warplanes struck a village in Quneitra province on the edge of the Golan Heights and in the southwest of the capital Damascus. They offered no details.


I'm concerned about the village strike.

It’s Israel: Arab civilians mean nothing to them. Every village is obviously secretly hiding Hamas and HizbAllah fighters and their weapons.
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Postby Hirota » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:32 am

That al jazeera source talks about Isreal forces being more concerned about Iranian forces near the Isreali border than acts of outright aggression.
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Postby Insaanistan » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:32 am

Magical Medical League wrote:I write semi-biased comments, but I think your characterisation of Israel is a bit too much.

Sorry. I’m Muslim (and by extension, a hater of oppressors) and part Arab. You shouldn’t expect me to have and express a neutral view of Israel.
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Postby Mannixa Prime » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:34 am

Are we surprised anymore? Israel can do as they please as long as they have the USA on a tight leash.

Every air strike is just confirming Israeli support for Sunni radicals.
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Postby Insaanistan » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:59 am

Mannixa Prime wrote:Are we surprised anymore? Israel can do as they please as long as they have the USA on a tight leash.

Every air strike is just confirming Israeli support for Sunni radicals.

Less surprised and more sad.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:03 am

Insaanistan wrote:
Magical Medical League wrote:I write semi-biased comments, but I think your characterisation of Israel is a bit too much.

Sorry. I’m Muslim (and by extension, a hater of oppressors) and part Arab. You shouldn’t expect me to have and express a neutral view of Israel.

Bro Christians in Palestine are also oppressed. Just like they wait until masjids are complete to tear them down, they treat churches the same.
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Greater Cesnica wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:Sorry. I’m Muslim (and by extension, a hater of oppressors) and part Arab. You shouldn’t expect me to have and express a neutral view of Israel.

Bro Christians in Palestine are also oppressed. Just like they wait until masjids are complete to tear them down, they treat churches the same.

I am aware. I never said only Muslims are oppressed their.
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Country attacks neighboring country for no apparent reason, cites biased state-run media.

Sounds more like a false-flag to me.
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Postby Insaanistan » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:29 am

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Country attacks neighboring country for no apparent reason, cites biased state-run media.

Sounds more like a false-flag to me.

It’s Israel. They do that all the time.
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Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Country attacks neighboring country for no apparent reason, cites biased state-run media.

Sounds more like a false-flag to me.

Sounds like intellectual cowardice on your behalf. Multiple people have given tertiary sources to this. You can look this up yourself.
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Greater Cesnica wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:Sorry. I’m Muslim (and by extension, a hater of oppressors) and part Arab. You shouldn’t expect me to have and express a neutral view of Israel.

Bro Christians in Palestine are also oppressed. Just like they wait until masjids are complete to tear them down, they treat churches the same.

Syria, Iran and Palestine have more respect for Christians than Israel by a long shot
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Personally I've got to support Israel. I don't like Assad, the Iranian regime, or Hezbollah.
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Insaanistan wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Country attacks neighboring country for no apparent reason, cites biased state-run media.

Sounds more like a false-flag to me.

It’s Israel. They do that all the time.


That's nice.

Now unless a motive can be established I'm not inclined to believe this attack ever happened, or if it did that certain parties are deliberately keeping the facts of the matter under wraps for the sake of their own interests.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:33 am

Langenia wrote:Personally I've got to support Israel. I don't like Assad, the Iranian regime, or Hezbollah.

Context matters in everything.

Mannixa Prime wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:Bro Christians in Palestine are also oppressed. Just like they wait until masjids are complete to tear them down, they treat churches the same.

Syria, Iran and Palestine have more respect for Christians than Israel by a long shot

Based.
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Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:It’s Israel. They do that all the time.


That's nice.

Now unless a motive can be established I'm not inclined to believe this attack ever happened, or if it did that certain parties are deliberately keeping the facts of the matter under wraps for the sake of their own interests.

That’s right Israel NEVER attacks Syria! It’s all anti Semitic propaganda!
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Greater Cesnica wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Country attacks neighboring country for no apparent reason, cites biased state-run media.

Sounds more like a false-flag to me.

Sounds like intellectual cowardice on your behalf. Multiple people have given tertiary sources to this. You can look this up yourself.


State-run media says they were bombed.

Other media says that state-run media sayss they were bombed.

That's really nothing damning.
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