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Diego Maradona dies

Postby The Archregimancy » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:09 am

Diego Maradona, one of the greatest football/soccer players in history, has died of a heart attack at the age of 60; he had had brain surgery earlier in the month.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... d-cup-1986


I'll be forever scarred by 1986, but just this once I'll keep my thoughts on a certain match to myself.

And while I'll admit to preferring Pele, Maradona was an extraordinary player; there'll always be that second goal against England...
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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:10 am

He's finally at the right hand of God.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:10 am

May Allah give him a just reward.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:19 am

He was perhaps the greatest footballer of our time, this is a monumental loss. 2020 strikes again...
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:20 am

I'm not letting him forget the hand of god incident. That was england's cup and he knew it.
but RIP.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:21 am

Mathuvan Union wrote:I'm not letting him forget the hand of god incident. That was england's cup and he knew it.

Maradona was onto something with the hand of god :p
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Postby Twicetagram and JYPe » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:21 am

Greater Cesnica wrote:He was perhaps the greatest footballer of our time, this is a monumental loss. 2020 strikes again...

Pele

In all seriousness, this was some bad news. Hope his family is alright :(
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:22 am

Twicetagram and JYPe wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:He was perhaps the greatest footballer of our time, this is a monumental loss. 2020 strikes again...

Pele

In all seriousness, this was some bad news. Hope his family is alright :(

It really sucks. In the midst of a global pandemic, what takes him is cardiac arrest. I can't begin to imagine how heartbroken his family must be.
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:23 am

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Mathuvan Union wrote:I'm not letting him forget the hand of god incident. That was england's cup and he knew it.

Maradona was onto something with the hand of god :p

He was finally grabbed by the Hand Of God.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:33 am

Mathuvan Union wrote:I'm not letting him forget the hand of god incident. That was england's cup and he knew it.
but RIP.

Nah England wasn't' gonna win it in 1986. England always seems to get hyped up only for their expectations to be let down time and time again, especially by Maradona's play where they all tried to break Maradona's legs during the goal of the century.
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Outer Sparta wrote:
Mathuvan Union wrote:I'm not letting him forget the hand of god incident. That was england's cup and he knew it.
but RIP.

Nah England wasn't' gonna win it in 1986. England always seems to get hyped up only for their expectations to be let down time and time again, especially by Maradona's play where they all tried to break Maradona's legs during the goal of the century.

England's a vicious cycle
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Twicetagram and JYPe wrote:Pele

In all seriousness, this was some bad news. Hope his family is alright :(

It really sucks. In the midst of a global pandemic, what takes him is cardiac arrest. I can't begin to imagine how heartbroken his family must be.

It must really suck. Never mind the dumb bullshit he did, he'll still stay in our hearts(positively or negatively).
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Postby Outer Sparta » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:37 am

Twicetagram and JYPe wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Nah England wasn't' gonna win it in 1986. England always seems to get hyped up only for their expectations to be let down time and time again, especially by Maradona's play where they all tried to break Maradona's legs during the goal of the century.

England's a vicious cycle
Greater Cesnica wrote:It really sucks. In the midst of a global pandemic, what takes him is cardiac arrest. I can't begin to imagine how heartbroken his family must be.

It must really suck. Never mind the dumb bullshit he did, he'll still stay in our hearts(positively or negatively).

It'll especially be Boca, Argentinos Juniors, Argentina, and Napoli fans that will be most affected.
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Postby Novos Byzantine » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:38 am

RIP. 2020 has made many fall. I'll always remember his 2nd goal against England, though, positively or negatively.
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:38 am

Outer Sparta wrote:
Mathuvan Union wrote:I'm not letting him forget the hand of god incident. That was england's cup and he knew it.
but RIP.

Nah England wasn't' gonna win it in 1986. England always seems to get hyped up only for their expectations to be let down time and time again, especially by Maradona's play where they all tried to break Maradona's legs during the goal of the century.

That was not the goal of the century. Had Maradona's goal been rightfully disallowed, then the game would have gone to penalties easy. Maradona should've been sent off for that.
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Greater Cesnica wrote:He was perhaps the greatest footballer of our time, this is a monumental loss. 2020 strikes again...

Pele

I believe you misspelt Zinedine Zidane.
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Postby Abserdia » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:42 am

I'm just a casual fan, but Diego is definitely one of my favorite players of all time. RIP.

And the 'goal of the century' is even better with this commentary.
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Postby Nurbaria » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:57 am

Maradona is undoubtedly one of the greatest of all time, as much as he is despised over here but I think that should be put aside for this moment.

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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:25 am

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Postby Heloin » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:25 am

Probably the greatest player that ever was. RIP
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Postby Eluney » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:01 pm

A very sad day for football in general and for Argentina in particular. I love you Diego, thank you for giving this country so much happiness. Rest in peace.
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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:00 pm

RIP Maradona, not only was he a great soccer player but he was also incredibly based.
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Postby Bombadil » Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:29 pm

He was an incredible footballer and essentially the emblem of Argentina and Naples.

That aside he was an incredibly flawed character, it's really hard to make a judgment on him given his rise from abject poverty, his cocaine abuse, his rampant cheating - a plastic penis for god's sake - where perhaps the hand of god followed by one of the best goals of any WC kind of sum up the chasm between the foul and the sublime.

So, I guess, in the end one can simply say he was an incredible footballer and leave it at that.
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Postby Hopal » Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:32 pm

It was all so sudden. He will be remembered.
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Postby Eluney » Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:13 pm

I share with you a translation by myself of a famous text in reference to why some of us, despite all its contradictions and defects, still love him: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1467194.
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Postby Bombadil » Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:49 pm

Eluney wrote:I share with you a translation by myself of a famous text in reference to why some of us, despite all its contradictions and defects, still love him: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1467194.


I think it's hard for anyone to really understand what he means to Argentina..

In the 1920s, as Argentina, a booming immigrant nation, sought a sense of identity, it became apparent that football was one of the few things that bound its disparate population together. No matter what your background, you wanted the team in the blue and white striped shirts to win – and that meant the way the national side played was of political and cultural significance.

The debate was played out in the pages of El Gráfico, and a consensus emerged that Argentinian football stood in opposition to the game of the British, the quasi-colonial power having largely departed by the beginning of the first world war. On the vast grassy playing fields of the British schools, football was about power and running and energy. The Argentinian, by contrast, learned the game in the potreros, the vacant lots of the slums, on small, hard, crowded pitches where there was no teacher to step in if it got a bit too rough; their game was about being streetwise, tight, technical ability – and cunning.

If a statue was to be erected to the soul of the Argentinian game, El Gráfico’s editor Borocotó wrote in 1928, it would depict “a pibe [urchin] with a dirty face, a mane of hair rebelling against the comb; with intelligent, roving, trickster and persuasive eyes and a sparkling gaze that seem to hint at a picaresque laugh that does not quite manage to form on his mouth, full of small teeth that might be worn down through eating yesterday’s bread.

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