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Postby Ivan De Witte » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:37 am

I had a demon for 20 years. His name was coke. I admit, I was addicted to this demon. I tried to tame it a dozen times with no success.

Few years ago, I had a kind of vision at night. A very beautiful female angel was sitting on my bed, she was accompanied with soft lovely suomisoundi music and said only one word:

"Stop!".

While she didn't say I should quit coke, I knew it was about that demon.

The next day I had the force to kill my demon and I'm still sober today.

I'm wondering if the angel was real or just my imagination. Even if it was a self-made perception of my brain, it gave me the force to stop.

Do you believe angels are real or fake as news?

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Postby Page » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:39 am

I don't think angels and demons are real but if your experience helped you improve your life then think whatever you want of it.
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Postby Ivan De Witte » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:41 am

Page wrote:I don't think angels and demons are real but if your experience helped you improve your life then think whatever you want of it.


Thank you Page.

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Postby Witiland » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:43 am

Ivan De Witte wrote:I had a demon for 20 years. His name was coke. I admit, I was addicted to this demon. I tried to tame it a dozen times with no success.

Few years ago, I had a kind of vision at night. A very beautiful female angel was sitting on my bed, she was accompanied with soft lovely suomisoundi music and said only one word:

"Stop!".

While she didn't say I should quit coke, I knew it was about that demon.

The next day I had the force to kill my demon and I'm still sober today.

I'm wondering if the angel was real or just my imagination. Even if it was a self-made perception of my brain, it gave me the force to stop.

Do you believe angels are real or fake as news?



Yes angels are real as well as demons I’m a hard core believer in that. But I feel that was also your discernment and you spirit telling you to quit. I feel yes god can lead you and push you but god gave mans dominion over this earth
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:44 am

As a Christian I do believe that angels exist. I'm somewhat sceptical of those who claim to have interacted with them, though. Regardless of whether your angelic visitor was an actual messenger of God or a product of your imagination, I'm glad that it helped you get past a difficult time in your life.
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Postby Witiland » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:46 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:As a Christian I do believe that angels exist. I'm somewhat sceptical of those who claim to have interacted with them, though. Regardless of whether your angelic visitor was an actual messenger of God or a product of your imagination, I'm glad that it helped you get past a difficult time in your life.

I’m pretty sure there are different types of angels like I think one of them are messengers,some warriors,etc
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Postby New American Unionist State » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:50 am

id say they exist.

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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:51 am

I think it's much more likely you hallucinated as you were on drugs per your own admission.
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Postby Witiland » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:54 am

The Reformed American Republic wrote:I think it's much more likely you hallucinated as you were on drugs per your own admission.


Well from what I know your partially right, when you take drugs it does put you into that realm and makes you vulnerable to attacks. I really do believe that your inner concious was trying to get you out of drugs (which you could say is the power of god in you...)
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:56 am

The Reformed American Republic wrote:I think it's much more likely you hallucinated as you were on drugs per your own admission.

Yes, considering that the "demon" referred to in this case is actually a narcotic that is recognised to cause hallucinations and psychosis, then in all likelihood the "angel" in this case was in the mind.
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:57 am

Doesn't matter if they're real or not (I personally don't think so), it's good you didn't keep doing crack. Could of caused you an early death.
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Postby Witiland » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:57 am

What’s so crazy about all this was that yesterday I saw someone who got delivered from a demon. Now its basically taking a demon out of someone and there was screaming like screams of agony and screams from hell. Then there was crying and vomit. It was crazy not death scary but more of a disturbing sight.
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I thought this thread would be about Good Omens :(
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I thought this would be about Christianity.
It’s about morals. I’m fine with that, morals are needed in life.
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:59 am

Witiland wrote:What’s so crazy about all this was that yesterday I saw someone who got delivered from a demon. Now its basically taking a demon out of someone and there was screaming like screams of agony and screams from hell. Then there was crying and vomit. It was crazy not death scary but more of a disturbing sight.

It's unfortunate that mentally disturbed people even nowadays in some places are not diagnosed and treated, but instead some religious charlatan comes along claiming that they are "possessed".
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Postby SD_Film Artists » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:04 am

As an agnostic spiritualist I believe that angels and demons are the same thing; angels are just demons with better PR.
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Postby Witiland » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:10 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Witiland wrote:What’s so crazy about all this was that yesterday I saw someone who got delivered from a demon. Now its basically taking a demon out of someone and there was screaming like screams of agony and screams from hell. Then there was crying and vomit. It was crazy not death scary but more of a disturbing sight.

It's unfortunate that mentally disturbed people even nowadays in some places are not diagnosed and treated, but instead some religious charlatan comes along claiming that they are "possessed".



Well what do the doctors do? They give them even more drugs. Lock I dunno if your believer or not but if you really do believe there is a world of a war that we aren’t seeing where people are fighting and it’s not physical people we’re not fighting people were fighting spirits and principalities. I had an experience with the doctors that could have changed my life forever. So before my family knew of god and when I was young I was not only was my speech poor but i did not read or speak until really late. I was diagnosed with autism. Now I used to be super hyper jumping up and down and waving my arms around for no reason. Now the doctors sos to medicate me and I would calm down. My dad was convinced but something did not feel right to my mom. She said no and said that her son is perfectly fine. Turns out I was gifted and I was in the wrong classes and that’s why I was failing. Imagine if they would have medicated me, I could have needed up in that same state maybe even worse, could have gotten depressed or even suicidal. I thank god every day for my mom
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Postby Witiland » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:13 am

The New California Republic wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:I think it's much more likely you hallucinated as you were on drugs per your own admission.

Yes, considering that the "demon" referred to in this case is actually a narcotic that is recognised to cause hallucinations and psychosis, then in all likelihood the "angel" in this case was in the mind.

Also correction, I don’t believe in religion I believe in god. I don’t believe in following mans rules for god, I believe in relationship with god. Religion and relationship with god and two different things. I’m a non demotional Christian not a religious person. Many times in my life I have gotten that confused but it’s quite simple really
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:26 am

Witiland wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:It's unfortunate that mentally disturbed people even nowadays in some places are not diagnosed and treated, but instead some religious charlatan comes along claiming that they are "possessed".

Well what do the doctors do? They give them even more drugs.

No. The person can get therapy and things that actually help, rather than being told the harmful lie that there is a demon inside them and thus magnifying their trauma.

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The Reformed American Republic wrote:I think it's much more likely you hallucinated as you were on drugs per your own admission.
The New California Republic wrote:Yes, considering that the "demon" referred to in this case is actually a narcotic that is recognised to cause hallucinations and psychosis, then in all likelihood the "angel" in this case was in the mind.

Also correction, I don’t believe in religion I believe in god. I don’t believe in following mans rules for god, I believe in relationship with god. Religion and relationship with god and two different things. I’m a non demotional Christian not a religious person. Many times in my life I have gotten that confused but it’s quite simple really

Did you quote the wrong person or something, as this has no relation to what I just said.
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Postby Witiland » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:29 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Witiland wrote:Well what do the doctors do? They give them even more drugs.

No. The person can get therapy and things that actually help, rather than being told the harmful lie that there is a demon inside them and thus magnifying their trauma.

Witiland wrote: Also correction, I don’t believe in religion I believe in god. I don’t believe in following mans rules for god, I believe in relationship with god. Religion and relationship with god and two different things. I’m a non demotional Christian not a religious person. Many times in my life I have gotten that confused but it’s quite simple really

Did you quote the wrong person or something, as this has no relation to what I just said.


Oops sorry quotes it on the wrong thing, not used to using mobile. I believe half of that. Are there good therapists who actually help people yes! But do they fail sometimes yes. They almost failed me if it was not for my mother. And that is what’s so important you can have all the doctors and all the psychologists in the world and still feel miserable. I believe that mental health is real, but at the same time that’s just a worldly flesh interpretation of it. There’s a war out there man and it’s of sprits
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:32 am

Witiland wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:No. The person can get therapy and things that actually help, rather than being told the harmful lie that there is a demon inside them and thus magnifying their trauma.


Did you quote the wrong person or something, as this has no relation to what I just said.


Oops sorry quotes it on the wrong thing, not used to using mobile. I believe half of that. Are there good therapists who actually help people yes! But do they fail sometimes yes. They almost failed me if it was not for my mother. And that is what’s so important you can have all the doctors and all the psychologists in the world and still feel miserable. I believe that mental health is real, but at the same time that’s just a worldly flesh interpretation of it. There’s a war out there man and it’s of sprits

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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:36 am

Witiland wrote:I believe that mental health is real, but at the same time that’s just a worldly flesh interpretation of it. There’s a war out there man and it’s of sprits

Sorry but I'm absolutely not giving you an inch on this one; telling mentally ill people that "there is an evil demon influencing them" is extremely harmful to them.
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Postby Witiland » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:36 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
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Oops sorry quotes it on the wrong thing, not used to using mobile. I believe half of that. Are there good therapists who actually help people yes! But do they fail sometimes yes. They almost failed me if it was not for my mother. And that is what’s so important you can have all the doctors and all the psychologists in the world and still feel miserable. I believe that mental health is real, but at the same time that’s just a worldly flesh interpretation of it. There’s a war out there man and it’s of sprits

Its human v human, no need to blame this on others


So long as you think that there will always be war and hate. Imagine let’s just say it’s hypothetical that demons and sprits exist. Now you still don’t believe in them and doubt their existence ok... wouldn’t it be the perfect cover up for demons to convince you they are not real? How can you fight something you can’t see? Corona is so small yet so damaging. There was so many tiny things that we can’t see that have a huge impact. So I don’t care if you believe or not, I respect your beliefs either way, but if your willing to listen I’ll gladly share my thoughts
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Postby Witiland » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:36 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Witiland wrote:I believe that mental health is real, but at the same time that’s just a worldly flesh interpretation of it. There’s a war out there man and it’s of sprits

Sorry but I'm absolutely not giving you an inch on this one; telling mentally ill people that "there is an evil demon influencing them" is extremely harmful to them.



And giving them addicting drugs with even more side effects is not?
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