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What are your political beliefs NS?

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Where do you fall on the Political Compass?

Authoritarian Left
3
7%
Authoritarian Right
3
7%
Liberal Left
29
66%
Liberal Right
6
14%
Centrist
3
7%
 
Total votes : 44

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Witiland
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What are your political beliefs NS?

Postby Witiland » Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:58 am

So recently I had the idea of writing a book (link here viewtopic.php?f=19&t=494734) and I need a variety of opinions. Now Me being me I am very liberal and would say I am a both a liberal socialist and a green liberal. But I want to know what your, yes you, think how government should work. Should it be authoritarian and ruled by a iron fist, or should it be ruled by the people and give away as many rights to the people as possible? Now I have some sources for those who don't know some main forms of government and need help and here it is:

https://thebestschools.org/magazine/common-forms-of-government-study-starters/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_forms_of_government#:~:text=Forms%20of%20government%20by%20power%20source%20%20,and%20Venice%20...%20%208%20more%20rows%20

https://classroom.synonym.com/5-types-of-government-their-characteristics-12083141.html

Also if you don't know what you would classify yourself here's a helpful test that can help you fully understand your views:

https://www.politicalcompass.org/test/en

Hopefully we can respectfully talk about our views. Also When you reply, give your answer using this chart: https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalCompassMemes/comments/dli3ep/more_detailed_political_compass/

If you don't know your exact location take the test here:
https://www.politicalcompass.org/test/en
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Postby Witiland » Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:02 pm

/bump
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Postby Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire » Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:15 pm

The political compass is an overrated meme chart, you can't just group people into broadly "authoritarian" or "liberal" categories, much as you can't group people into "left" and "right." Politics is so much more than just left vs right and authority vs liberty, it's really more like a smoothie: a blend of different ideological ingredients from the spectrum of ideology.

Also, why bump so early? Patience not your forte, perhaps?
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Postby Witiland » Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:18 pm

Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire wrote:The political compass is an overrated meme chart, you can't just group people into broadly "authoritarian" or "liberal" categories, much as you can't group people into "left" and "right." Politics is so much more than just left vs right and authority vs liberty, it's really more like a smoothie: a blend of different ideological ingredients from the spectrum of ideology.

Also, why bump so early? Patience not your forte, perhaps?



Well that's why we have this (click the link) : https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalCompa ... l_compass/

does it better because its more detailed...
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Postby Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire » Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:19 pm

Witiland wrote:
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire wrote:The political compass is an overrated meme chart, you can't just group people into broadly "authoritarian" or "liberal" categories, much as you can't group people into "left" and "right." Politics is so much more than just left vs right and authority vs liberty, it's really more like a smoothie: a blend of different ideological ingredients from the spectrum of ideology.

Also, why bump so early? Patience not your forte, perhaps?



Well that's why we have this (click the link) : https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalCompa ... l_compass/

does it better because its more detailed...

...I am thoroughly disappointed. I was expecting another dimension on the compass or something, but it just splits up the political compass.

EDIT: It doesn't help that it thinks neoliberal is economically far right.
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Postby Witiland » Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:21 pm

Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire wrote:
Witiland wrote:

Well that's why we have this (click the link) : https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalCompa ... l_compass/

does it better because its more detailed...

...I am thoroughly disappointed. I was expecting another dimension on the compass or something, but it just splits up the political compass.


Well there is no 100 percent accurate way to find your ideology, instead the ideology must find you. Yes the political compass is flawed I'll give you that, but it helps to gain a understanding on where you might stand.

I cant make everybody happy...
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Postby Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire » Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:24 pm

Witiland wrote:
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire wrote:...I am thoroughly disappointed. I was expecting another dimension on the compass or something, but it just splits up the political compass.


Well there is no 100 percent accurate way to find your ideology, instead the ideology must find you. Yes the political compass is flawed I'll give you that, but it helps to gain a understanding on where you might stand.

I cant make everybody happy...

To be honest, I'd say a better system would be 8values or politiscales, since they have more detailed ideological ratings.
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Postby Eurasies » Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:25 pm

Based on the political compass you attached and seeing what my political position has been in various tests, I am a classical liberal, or center-right liberal
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Postby Witiland » Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:26 pm

Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire wrote:
Witiland wrote:
Well there is no 100 percent accurate way to find your ideology, instead the ideology must find you. Yes the political compass is flawed I'll give you that, but it helps to gain a understanding on where you might stand.

I cant make everybody happy...

To be honest, I'd say a better system would be 8values or politiscales, since they have more detailed ideological ratings.



Could you post a link to one? That would be great! :)
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:26 pm

According to that test I’m:

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Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.05
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Postby Anatoliyanskiy » Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:29 pm

Possibly gonna get merged, but I think the old threads about this are pretty much gravedigs at this point, so it might pass. But it is similar, so there's that. In any case I'm socially -7.8 and fiscally -7.2, so I'd be on the downwards side of lib left. And, in that case I'd be a libertarian socialist! So yeah, that's that.
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Postby Dispatchistan » Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:30 pm

Political compass/scale tests are complete garbo.

Myself? I just wanna grill.

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Postby Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire » Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:32 pm

Witiland wrote:
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire wrote:To be honest, I'd say a better system would be 8values or politiscales, since they have more detailed ideological ratings.



Could you post a link to one? That would be great! :)

https://8values.github.io
https://dbhq.github.io

There's also isidewith, which I'm not entirely a fan of, but it exists at least
https://www.isidewith.com/political-quiz
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Postby Witiland » Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:40 pm

Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire wrote:
Witiland wrote:

Could you post a link to one? That would be great! :)

https://8values.github.io
https://dbhq.github.io

There's also isidewith, which I'm not entirely a fan of, but it exists at least
https://www.isidewith.com/political-quiz

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Postby Witiland » Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:48 pm

I did it and said I was social democracy
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Postby New American Unionist State » Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:50 pm

Never took the compas. BUT im a conservitive. So kinda mid right ish

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Postby Cordel One » Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:52 pm

8values and 9axes are juch better than the political compass which fails to take any ideological depth into account.

That being said, it puts me so libleft that I touch the wall and I'm fine with that.
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:54 pm

Witiland wrote:/bump

We don't bump here. If the thread is sinking, post something that adds to the discussion. If that doesn't work, it could be no one's interested. It happens.
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Postby Witiland » Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:55 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Witiland wrote:/bump

We don't bump here. If the thread is sinking, post something that adds to the discussion. If that doesn't work, it could be no one's interested. It happens.


Oh okay, my bad
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Postby Nuroblav » Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:56 pm

AnCom, but I take a little from other areas of anarchism as well - mutualism seems to be an area I have taken interest in, but have never really understood quite what it entails (although this might change). Also quite the Individualist - I don’t think that's something I need to clarify but since you want my political beliefs, there you go.

PolComp score is in my sig, although it's not a test I'm particularly fond of anymore - not a good indicator of one's beliefs, even if it gives you a broad view.
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Postby Hatsunia » Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:13 pm

Politicalcompass.org is biased to put you closer to the libleft quadrant, while the site's owners claim that most mainstream politicians are authright. 8values is not perfect but I feel that it's better - these are my results at the moment.

I think technological and social progress are great and I lean towards libleft, but moderately. I'm not an ancom, and I'm fine with regulated capitalism.
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Postby Arcturus Novus » Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:14 pm

I'm a communist. More specifically, I'm a Marxist with sympathy to more decentralized government - the small-s soviet democracy of the early USSR. I consider politics and history to be a continuous struggle between the working and owning classes, one that can only be ended with a revolution against the latter.
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Postby Witiland » Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:18 pm

Arcturus Novus wrote:I'm a communist. More specifically, I'm a Marxist with sympathy to more decentralized government - the small-s soviet democracy of the early USSR. I consider politics and history to be a continuous struggle between the working and owning classes, one that can only be ended with a revolution against the latter.



Never actually met a communist before!
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Postby Zemalynn » Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:20 pm

Witiland wrote:
Arcturus Novus wrote:I'm a communist. More specifically, I'm a Marxist with sympathy to more decentralized government - the small-s soviet democracy of the early USSR. I consider politics and history to be a continuous struggle between the working and owning classes, one that can only be ended with a revolution against the latter.



Never actually met a communist before!


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