Bernie Sanders - The Best President That Never Was

[Stylan]

Bernie Sanders is not dead.

But he likely he will be soon.

At 79, Sanders is truly pushing the limits of the average age of a politician. Sure, Mike Gravel is 90 and healthy as can be, but Bernie's already suffered a heart attack, and is clearly declining in health.

Now let's sidetrack. In 2028, the next Democratic Primaries that will be contested will be held. (2024 will obviously go to Biden or Harris)

So who takes up this mantle? Perhaps a progressive like AOC, or perhaps a centrist like Buttigieg. But the bottom line is this -

There will not be another candidate like Bernie Sanders for a while.

Bernie was probably the realest politician since FDR, and probably one of the only politicians who actually cared about regular people and not just mega-corporations.

And Bernie won the primaries.

"What? Bernie lost to Biden!" You may say.

Bullshit. The 2020 Democratic Primaries were rigged against Bernie. If you look at his polling, you'll see a consistent lead over his opponents until completely randomly his polling numbers plummet. Directly down. That is not possible nor normal, especially given there were not significant scandals around his campaign at that time (early March). On top of that, if you look at some of the states Biden stole, you'll find that every single county went to Biden. That's again, not a legitimate election.

But I digress.

Bernie was the best chance the left had in a very, very long time. Bernie would have normalized the far-left in much the same way Trump did with the far-right. DSA membership would soar, unions would have power again, taxes would be raised on the wealthy, healthcare would finally be available to all, and let's be real: it's obvious Sanders held radically left-wing viewpoints in private.

But Bernie will never run again. AOC may take his mantle, but AOC is not nearly as hated by the mainstream media and billionaires as Bernie was. AOC is on the cover of Vanity Fair, ffs. AOC supports fascist coups in Latin America, and doesn't fundamentally want to change anything the way Bernie did.

To conclude, I say this.

Bernie losing, even on his milquetoast New Deal-esque social democracy candidacy, will just strengthen the far-left in the long run. But Bernie could have been just as great a help, and for that, I say: Farwell, Bernie. It should have been you.

[Mancouver]

Farewell.

He'll be the best president the USA never had.

[The New California Republic]

Would it be possible to change the title of this thread, so that people don't mistake it for a remembrance thread?

[Stylan]

Would it be possible to change the title of this thread, so that people don't mistake it for a remembrance thread?

I was worried about that lol, I was originally gonna title it "RIP Bernie" but then I realized that implied he had died.

Changed it.

[The New California Republic]

Changed it.

Ta.

[Valentine Z]

I am once again asking you all for your support.

I don't know much about US politics, or pretend to know, but I always wonder how it will be like if he did become the President.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

*crying sounds*

[Barlyy]

Bernie was like watching a beautiful sunset... at noon.

[Arisyan]

It would be a miracle if Bernie would be able to run again, as he seems to be in good health, but being an 83 year old President just probably won't happen. Ocasio-Cortez probably will be the new ''leftist sanderite", but she is considerably more moderate then Sanders. Still, I like to think what would have happened if he'd won the Primaries.

[Sovity Fuzhdin]

In the words of Joe Hill
"Don't mourn, organize"
I think the quote applies here too. While the loss of Bernie Sanders will no doubt be a massive loss to the left, I do believe that passively mourning him will prove to be counterproductive. Instead we must pick up the torch and continue the fight. I am of the opinion that the best way to honor him is to continue fighting for a better, just world.

[Stylan]

It would be a miracle if Bernie would be able to run again, as he seems to be in good health, but being an 83 year old President just probably won't happen. Ocasio-Cortez probably will be the new ''leftist sanderite", but she is considerably more moderate then Sanders. Still, I like to think what would have happened if he'd won the Primaries.

Yep, pretty much my point.

In the words of Joe Hill
"Don't mourn, organize"
I think the quote applies here too. While the loss of Bernie Sanders will no doubt be a massive loss to the left, I do believe that passively mourning him will prove to be counterproductive. Instead we must pick up the torch and continue the fight. I am of the opinion that the best way to honor him is to continue fighting for a better, just world.

Agreed.

[West Leas Oros 2]

In the words of Joe Hill
"Don't mourn, organize"
I think the quote applies here too. While the loss of Bernie Sanders will no doubt be a massive loss to the left, I do believe that passively mourning him will prove to be counterproductive. Instead we must pick up the torch and continue the fight. I am of the opinion that the best way to honor him is to continue fighting for a better, just world.

The fight will not be easy, and with political discourse only continuing to push out the left, it will only become more difficult. Dark times are ahead.

[Ifreann]

Fucking weird to be grieving for the end of a political career as if it spells the doom of the left wing of politics. Doubly so when that career isn't even over.

[Sovity Fuzhdin]

In the words of Joe Hill
"Don't mourn, organize"
I think the quote applies here too. While the loss of Bernie Sanders will no doubt be a massive loss to the left, I do believe that passively mourning him will prove to be counterproductive. Instead we must pick up the torch and continue the fight. I am of the opinion that the best way to honor him is to continue fighting for a better, just world.

The fight will not be easy, and with political discourse only continuing to push out the left, it will only become more difficult. Dark times are ahead.

Aye, but the left has been through tough times before, yet we are still here. Ultimately we must remain steadfast in our beliefs and comfort ourselves with the knowledge that our day will come. For now, we must weather the storm.

[West Leas Oros 2]

Fucking weird to be grieving for the end of a political career as if it spells the doom of the left wing of politics. Doubly so when that career isn't even over.

Not “doom” so much as a “crippling blow”. Without Sanders, social democratic ideas are falling out of the public discourse. I also doubt his career will last long, given his advanced age.

[Rusozak]

Fucking weird to be grieving for the end of a political career as if it spells the doom of the left wing of politics. Doubly so when that career isn't even over.

Not “doom” so much as a “crippling blow”. Without Sanders, social democratic ideas are falling out of the public discourse. I also doubt his career will last long, given his advanced age.

Not if he passes the torch.

[Ifreann]

Fucking weird to be grieving for the end of a political career as if it spells the doom of the left wing of politics. Doubly so when that career isn't even over.

Not “doom” so much as a “crippling blow”. Without Sanders, social democratic ideas are falling out of the public discourse. I also doubt his career will last long, given his advanced age.

Unless he dies as I type this post then clearly his career is going to last longer than your present tense reference to "Without Sanders" would suggest.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Sanders was actually one of the few people who got me back into politics several years back. Will always be fond of the man, disappointed he never got a chance to run but it was a long shot anyway. Hope someone else comes along and takes the torch from him and keeps it going. His supporters in the US need to keep organising though and get more people elected and try and reach out more to groups that were hesitant to support Sanders in the primaries like black voters etc

It would be a miracle if Bernie would be able to run again, as he seems to be in good health, but being an 83 year old President just probably won't happen. Ocasio-Cortez probably will be the new ''leftist sanderite", but she is considerably more moderate then Sanders. Still, I like to think what would have happened if he'd won the Primaries.

As far as i am aware he has ruled out running again.

[West Leas Oros 2]

Not “doom” so much as a “crippling blow”. Without Sanders, social democratic ideas are falling out of the public discourse. I also doubt his career will last long, given his advanced age.

Not if he passes the torch.

Passes the torch to whom? This may be hyperbolic, but there’s hardly a political figure around quite like him.

[Pacific Christian Unions]

I’ll miss being hopeful for a Bernie presidency, but as someone above me quoted Joe Hill about...

Don’t mourn, organize.

[Witiland]

Im going to keep it real , I really wanted Bernie to win not Biden, before 2020 i never heard of Biden. Bernie is so energic, radical, and progressive. But maybe that's what would have hurt him. Maybe for the right he was so radical that scared the right. Maybe a boring sometimes dull and mostly normal old man we know as Biden is actually better than Bernie.

[Geneviev]

I'm still hoping for a Sanders presidency.

Im going to keep it real , I really wanted Bernie to win not Biden, before 2020 i never heard of Biden. Bernie is so energic, radical, and progressive. But maybe that's what would have hurt him. Maybe for the right he was so radical that scared the right. Maybe a boring sometimes dull and mostly normal old man we know as Biden is actually better than Bernie.

How did you not hear about Biden before 2020?

[Pacific Christian Unions]

I'm still hoping for a Sanders presidency.

Im going to keep it real , I really wanted Bernie to win not Biden, before 2020 i never heard of Biden. Bernie is so energic, radical, and progressive. But maybe that's what would have hurt him. Maybe for the right he was so radical that scared the right. Maybe a boring sometimes dull and mostly normal old man we know as Biden is actually better than Bernie.

How did you not hear about Biden before 2020?

Some people on here are surprisingly apolitical, or simply really young. Biden is very much a relic of the Obama era, and if this user wasn’t politically active until 2016...

[Witiland]

I'm still hoping for a Sanders presidency.

Im going to keep it real , I really wanted Bernie to win not Biden, before 2020 i never heard of Biden. Bernie is so energic, radical, and progressive. But maybe that's what would have hurt him. Maybe for the right he was so radical that scared the right. Maybe a boring sometimes dull and mostly normal old man we know as Biden is actually better than Bernie.

How did you not hear about Biden before 2020?

I was more of a Trump fan in 2016, but then again I believed everything that Trump said, plus I did not really care about Politics. I became a Democrat after Trump with the Charlottesville attacks and COVID19 and such... I would say I'm pretty radical on the left...

[San Lumen]

Bernie Sanders is not dead.

But he likely he will be soon.

At 79, Sanders is truly pushing the limits of the average age of a politician. Sure, Mike Gravel is 90 and healthy as can be, but Bernie's already suffered a heart attack, and is clearly declining in health.

Now let's sidetrack. In 2028, the next Democratic Primaries that will be contested will be held. (2024 will obviously go to Biden or Harris)

So who takes up this mantle? Perhaps a progressive like AOC, or perhaps a centrist like Buttigieg. But the bottom line is this -

There will not be another candidate like Bernie Sanders for a while.

Bernie was probably the realest politician since FDR, and probably one of the only politicians who actually cared about regular people and not just mega-corporations.

And Bernie won the primaries.

"What? Bernie lost to Biden!" You may say.

Bullshit. The 2020 Democratic Primaries were rigged against Bernie. If you look at his polling, you'll see a consistent lead over his opponents until completely randomly his polling numbers plummet. Directly down. That is not possible nor normal, especially given there were not significant scandals around his campaign at that time (early March). On top of that, if you look at some of the states Biden stole, you'll find that every single county went to Biden. That's again, not a legitimate election.

But I digress.

Bernie was the best chance the left had in a very, very long time. Bernie would have normalized the far-left in much the same way Trump did with the far-right. DSA membership would soar, unions would have power again, taxes would be raised on the wealthy, healthcare would finally be available to all, and let's be real: it's obvious Sanders held radically left-wing viewpoints in private.

But Bernie will never run again. AOC may take his mantle, but AOC is not nearly as hated by the mainstream media and billionaires as Bernie was. AOC is on the cover of Vanity Fair, ffs. AOC supports fascist coups in Latin America, and doesn't fundamentally want to change anything the way Bernie did.

To conclude, I say this.

Bernie losing, even on his milquetoast New Deal-esque social democracy candidacy, will just strengthen the far-left in the long run. But Bernie could have been just as great a help, and for that, I say: Farwell, Bernie. It should have been you.

The primaries were not rigged. This nonsense needs to stop. How does every county going to Biden show evidence of fraud? By that logic Oklahoma and West Virginia must have been rigged in the general or Lyndon Johnson must have cheated in 1964 as in a number of states he won every county.