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[SUBMITTED] Crime and Re-Punishment

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[SUBMITTED] Crime and Re-Punishment

Postby Baloo Kingdom » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:11 am

Hello there Got Issues? Forum users. Below is one of my possible submissions for an issue, and I would deeply appreciate any feedback that can be provided.

The Current Draft "Crime and Re-Punishment":

[desc]In recent weeks, the @@DEMONYM@@ Bureau of Statistics has observed a sharp uptick in rates of recidivism, the tendency of criminals released from prison to end up breaking the law again. Passionate law enforcement officers and vocal authoritarians alike are advocating for action on this matter after a massive robbery occurred mere hours after the involved inmates being released.

[validity] Invalid for nations without prisons

[option] "Once a criminal, always a criminal," mumbles prison warden @@RANDOMNAME@@, infamous for subjecting unlucky inmates to hours of "Mick-Rolling", "We need to keep the delinquents who enter these prison walls on lock-down. These criminals are dangerous and deceptive creatures, who would do anything to get out of their consequences. I say we at least double the prison sentences of all new inmates, regardless of their crime, to ensure that they are unable to wreak further havoc on our society. Oh, and how about subsidizing the prison system while you're at it."
[effect] @@DENONYMPLURAL@@ tell stories of a man who served his life in prison for littering.

[option] "More prison time? If anything, we need less," complains ex-convict @@RANDOMNAME@@, "When I was serving my time a few years ago, I became extremely bored. I know robbery is bad and all, but I was kept behind bars for what felt like a very long amount of time. Luckily, my lawyer was able to bail me out after a few months of prison time. I can't even imagine how it would have felt to serve my entire sentence. Plus, prison always leads to poverty, there's no use in keeping us there longer when our true punishment sometimes occurs after our release..." @@HE@@ stops in the middle of @@HER@@ sentence, tapping @@HER@@ fingers anxiously to gawk at your rather expensive-looking watch.
[effect] prisons in @@NAME@@ are the summer homes of murderers.

[option] "What if we just did away with prisons altogether," interjects the famed surprisingly radical economist @@RANDOMNAME@@, "As shown by your analytics, most released inmates don't turn from their past mistakes and end up back in jail. Removing prisons would give the twenty years a potential inmate would have served back to them. In place of traditional prison, they could be sent to much milder, and privately owned, correctional facilities where they could study up on how to act civilized around others again. Plus, I could hook you up with a few high quality private correctional facilities, run by yours truly, and maybe we could score a deal." @@SHE@@ then moves closer to you to pat you on the shoulder and shove a few "coupons" for correctional facilities in your front pocket.
[option_validity] Capitalism
[effect] "Hard time" is now known as "Soft time".

[option] "You're all a bunch of foolish, softy bureaucrats!" roars @@RANDOMNAMEMALE@@, a seasoned law enforcement officer and owner of a personally granted execution degree. "Why should society foot the bill for a bunch of good-for-nothings, thieves, and murderers, when we could just, I don't know, get rid of them? Dirty scumbags like them deserve no quarter—death is the only permanent cure for this pandemic of criminal injustice. Just leave it to me, @@LEADER@@. My fellow men and I will send those morally ill convicts to the promised land! Remember, there's more than one way to strangle a goose, or should I say, strangle an inmate."
[effect] first-time jaywalkers are also last-time jaywalkers.
Last edited by Baloo Kingdom on Mon Dec 14, 2020 10:15 am, edited 36 times in total.
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Postby Plus Nova Imperii » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:17 am

Baloo Kingdom wrote:Hello there Got Issues? Forum users. Below is one of my possible submissions for an issue, and I would deeply appreciate any feedback that can be provided.

[desc] Recent analytics of prison logs have shown a dramatic increase in the amount of inmates that return after being released. As leader, you have been invited to one of your nation's handful of prisons to be presented with your options regarding the matter.

[validity] Invalid for nations without prisons

[option] "Once a criminal, always a criminal," mumbles prison warden @@RANDOMNAME@@, infamous for their unfair treatment of inmates, "We need to keep the delinquents who enter these prison walls secure, and we need for them to stay here until they have truly learned their lessons. Oh, and positive behavior from those miscreants is only an act they put on to get out faster. I say we increase the prison sentences of all inmates, regardless of crime, to ensure that they are unable to wreak havoc on our society." He proceeds to tackle a nearby prisoner who "looked like an escapee".
[effect] @@DENONYMPLURAL@@ tell stories of a man who was sentenced to a life in prison for littering.

[option] "More prison time? If anything, we need less," complains ex-convict @@RANDOMNAME@@, "When I was serving my time a few years ago, I was really bored. I know robbery is bad, but I was kept behind bars for a really long time. Luckily, my lawyer was able to bail me out after a few years of hard time. I can't even imagine what it would have felt like to serve my entire sentence. And hey look, I turned out fine..." He stops in the middle of their sentence to check out at your rather expensive looking watch.
[effect] Prisons are the summer homes of murderers.

[option] "What if we just did away with prisons all together," interjects famed economist @@RANDOMNAME@@, "As seen by your analytics, most released inmates don't learn from their past mistakes and end up back in jail. Removing prisons would give back the twenty years a potential inmate would have served to them. They could be sent to much more mild, and privately owned, correctional facilities where they could re-learn how to ask civilized around others. Plus, I could hook you up with a few private correctional facilities, run by yours truly, and maybe we could score a deal." They then move over to you in order to pat you on the shoulder and shove a few coupons for correctional facilities in your pocket.
[option_validity] Capitalism
[effect] "Hard time" is now known as "Soft time".


Is it just me, but I feel like I have seen an issue like this before
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Postby Baloo Kingdom » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:18 am

Plus Nova Imperii wrote:
Baloo Kingdom wrote:Hello there Got Issues? Forum users. Below is one of my possible submissions for an issue, and I would deeply appreciate any feedback that can be provided.

[desc] Recent analytics of prison logs have shown a dramatic increase in the amount of inmates that return after being released. As leader, you have been invited to one of your nation's handful of prisons to be presented with your options regarding the matter.

[validity] Invalid for nations without prisons

[option] "Once a criminal, always a criminal," mumbles prison warden @@RANDOMNAME@@, infamous for their unfair treatment of inmates, "We need to keep the delinquents who enter these prison walls secure, and we need for them to stay here until they have truly learned their lessons. Oh, and positive behavior from those miscreants is only an act they put on to get out faster. I say we increase the prison sentences of all inmates, regardless of crime, to ensure that they are unable to wreak havoc on our society." He proceeds to tackle a nearby prisoner who "looked like an escapee".
[effect] @@DENONYMPLURAL@@ tell stories of a man who was sentenced to a life in prison for littering.

[option] "More prison time? If anything, we need less," complains ex-convict @@RANDOMNAME@@, "When I was serving my time a few years ago, I was really bored. I know robbery is bad, but I was kept behind bars for a really long time. Luckily, my lawyer was able to bail me out after a few years of hard time. I can't even imagine what it would have felt like to serve my entire sentence. And hey look, I turned out fine..." He stops in the middle of their sentence to check out at your rather expensive looking watch.
[effect] Prisons are the summer homes of murderers.

[option] "What if we just did away with prisons all together," interjects famed economist @@RANDOMNAME@@, "As seen by your analytics, most released inmates don't learn from their past mistakes and end up back in jail. Removing prisons would give back the twenty years a potential inmate would have served to them. They could be sent to much more mild, and privately owned, correctional facilities where they could re-learn how to ask civilized around others. Plus, I could hook you up with a few private correctional facilities, run by yours truly, and maybe we could score a deal." They then move over to you in order to pat you on the shoulder and shove a few coupons for correctional facilities in your pocket.
[option_validity] Capitalism
[effect] "Hard time" is now known as "Soft time".


Is it just me, but I feel like I have seen an issue like this before

Seen a similar one, or just one that had a similar premise?
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Postby Sorianora » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:19 am

Plus Nova Imperii wrote:
Baloo Kingdom wrote:Hello there Got Issues? Forum users. Below is one of my possible submissions for an issue, and I would deeply appreciate any feedback that can be provided.

[desc] Recent analytics of prison logs have shown a dramatic increase in the amount of inmates that return after being released. As leader, you have been invited to one of your nation's handful of prisons to be presented with your options regarding the matter.

[validity] Invalid for nations without prisons

[option] "Once a criminal, always a criminal," mumbles prison warden @@RANDOMNAME@@, infamous for their unfair treatment of inmates, "We need to keep the delinquents who enter these prison walls secure, and we need for them to stay here until they have truly learned their lessons. Oh, and positive behavior from those miscreants is only an act they put on to get out faster. I say we increase the prison sentences of all inmates, regardless of crime, to ensure that they are unable to wreak havoc on our society." He proceeds to tackle a nearby prisoner who "looked like an escapee".
[effect] @@DENONYMPLURAL@@ tell stories of a man who was sentenced to a life in prison for littering.

[option] "More prison time? If anything, we need less," complains ex-convict @@RANDOMNAME@@, "When I was serving my time a few years ago, I was really bored. I know robbery is bad, but I was kept behind bars for a really long time. Luckily, my lawyer was able to bail me out after a few years of hard time. I can't even imagine what it would have felt like to serve my entire sentence. And hey look, I turned out fine..." He stops in the middle of their sentence to check out at your rather expensive looking watch.
[effect] Prisons are the summer homes of murderers.

[option] "What if we just did away with prisons all together," interjects famed economist @@RANDOMNAME@@, "As seen by your analytics, most released inmates don't learn from their past mistakes and end up back in jail. Removing prisons would give back the twenty years a potential inmate would have served to them. They could be sent to much more mild, and privately owned, correctional facilities where they could re-learn how to ask civilized around others. Plus, I could hook you up with a few private correctional facilities, run by yours truly, and maybe we could score a deal." They then move over to you in order to pat you on the shoulder and shove a few coupons for correctional facilities in your pocket.
[option_validity] Capitalism
[effect] "Hard time" is now known as "Soft time".


Is it just me, but I feel like I have seen an issue like this before


I haven’t gotten anything resembling this issue before, but, my nation is a lot younger than yours so.....

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Postby Plus Nova Imperii » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:21 am

Baloo Kingdom wrote:
Plus Nova Imperii wrote:
Is it just me, but I feel like I have seen an issue like this before

Seen a similar one, or just one that had a similar premise?

yeah I similar one
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Postby Baloo Kingdom » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:21 am

Sorianora wrote:
Plus Nova Imperii wrote:
Is it just me, but I feel like I have seen an issue like this before


I haven’t gotten anything resembling this issue before, but, my nation is a lot younger than yours so.....

I've haven't gotten anything like this yet, and I've answered a lot of issues. I'll wait until an even older user comes along, and see if they find it to be a copycat.
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Postby Baloo Kingdom » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:23 am

Plus Nova Imperii wrote:
Baloo Kingdom wrote:Seen a similar one, or just one that had a similar premise?

yeah I similar one

If this is the case, I'll have to go back to the drawing board. I will wait for confirmation from the masters of the Got Issues? Forum before scrapping this idea.
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Postby SKully WUlly » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:28 am

Out of these options I feel the only option that would make sense is less time in prisons. This is going to the extremes of both sides, so there's life for littering or its the purge everyday. So the safest options would be to go with in-between. Which is less prison time for inmates but still time. If I could make my own option I would suggest less time in prison and more time in recovery. Whether that be through therapy for prisoners or a group home type of living situation. The goal is to have them be functioning members of society.

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Postby Megistos » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:30 am

Plus Nova Imperii wrote:-snip

From my memory, none seems to come to mind. Looking at the 'no prisons' adding list, I don't see a lot of issue coming under that.
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Postby Baloo Kingdom » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:31 am

SKully WUlly wrote:Out of these options I feel the only option that would make sense is less time in prisons. This is going to the extremes of both sides, so there's life for littering or its the purge everyday. So the safest options would be to go with in-between. Which is less prison time for inmates but still time. If I could make my own option I would suggest less time in prison and more time in recovery. Whether that be through therapy for prisoners or a group home type of living situation. The goal is to have them be functioning members of society.

I see the point you make, however the point of the issue is also slightly comedic, and the extremes tend to make it that way. I will consider your proposal for a new option.
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Postby Baloo Kingdom » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:33 am

Megistos wrote:
Plus Nova Imperii wrote:-snip

From my memory, none seems to come to mind. Looking at the 'no prisons' adding list, I don't see a lot of issue coming under that.

That looks like a good sign, I haven't seen too much about "no prisons" in all of the issues I've gone through on my main and puppet accounts. Thank you for your feedback.
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Postby Megistos » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:09 am

Fix 'They' to 'He' in the last part of Option 3.
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Postby Baloo Kingdom » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:11 am

Megistos wrote:Fix 'They' to 'He' in the last part of Option 3.

Will do
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Postby Honeydewistania » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:14 am

Please scrap the second sentence in the description, it’s extremely cringe and overused
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Postby Baloo Kingdom » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:17 am

Honeydewistania wrote:Please scrap the second sentence in the description, it’s extremely cringe and overused

Deal, however, should I replace it with something?
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Postby Honeydewistania » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:22 am

Baloo Kingdom wrote:
Honeydewistania wrote:Please scrap the second sentence in the description, it’s extremely cringe and overused

Deal, however, should I replace it with something?

How about "After a serial jaywalker illegally crossed the street outside of his prison not one minute after release, many people are calling for action to be taken to reduce the alarmingly increasing rates of recidivism."
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Postby Baloo Kingdom » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:24 am

Honeydewistania wrote:
Baloo Kingdom wrote:Deal, however, should I replace it with something?

How about "After a serial jaywalker illegally crossed the street outside of his prison not one minute after release, many people are calling for action to be taken to reduce the alarmingly increasing rates of recidivism."

That's a very clever line, thank you for you feedback, I'll add that right away.
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Postby Baloo Kingdom » Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:46 am

The forum will be closed in about 5-7 days.
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Postby Megistos » Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:21 am

Baloo Kingdom wrote:The forum will be closed in about 5-7 days.

Just to tell you, maybe wait a little longer? Some helpful feedback could come, and that could increase your chances. Some issues take months of drafting before submitting :)
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Postby Baloo Kingdom » Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:22 am

Megistos wrote:
Baloo Kingdom wrote:The forum will be closed in about 5-7 days.

Just to tell you, maybe wait a little longer? Some helpful feedback could come, and that could increase your chances. Some issues take months of drafting before submitting :)

~Extending the total edit time to 20-25 days~
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Postby Australian rePublic » Fri Nov 13, 2020 3:31 pm

In what world is jaywalking a criminal offense?
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Postby Baloo Kingdom » Fri Nov 13, 2020 4:38 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:In what world is jaywalking a criminal offense?

In the wacky world of NationStates
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Postby Nooooooooooooooo » Fri Nov 13, 2020 4:55 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:In what world is jaywalking a criminal offense?

The US. We've got some weird laws here. For example, you can't go to the beach without a polar bear.

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Postby Baloo Kingdom » Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:18 am

/bump
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Postby Megistos » Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:51 am

Check grammar issues, I see a few, but I can't go through them one-by-one.
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