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Karamash
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This Resolution is a disgrace.

Postby Karamash » Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:50 am

If we are to uphold an unbiased and truly equal World Assembly then this resolution should not be allowed to pass. We must spend our time helping smaller nations to grow without using their economic systems to justify it. If this resolution passes, which it looks like it will, Karamash will officially declare these commendations illegitimate. The economies of many states are currently struggling shall we not put our votes and resources towards them instead of spending them on award ceremonies.

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Postby Goobergunchia » Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:35 pm

Will the declaration from Karamash be printed on one-ply or two-ply?

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Postby Cornfederacy of Corn » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:09 am

I wish the resolution didn't read like the fact that Kenmoria has a bought legal system is more commendable than anything else.

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Strongly oppose!

Postby Socialist Confederal Municipalities » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:25 pm

The Socialist Confederal Municipalities strongly oppose this resolution, for from our point of view there is nothing even remotely good about corporations being able to control legal entities. The fact that this is likely going to pass foretells a dark future for the Security Council, and the World Assembly as a whole.

The SCM will strongly support any resolution which seeks to repeal "Commend Kenmoria."

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Postby The Grand Imperial Reich » Thu Nov 26, 2020 4:44 am

Whether Kenmoria is actually commendable or not is quite a debatable subject, and I'm leaning towards no. I'm also extremely confused as to why their backwards and brutally corporate economy is mentioned in the proposal, especially as the first point. It really is completely irrelevant to the proposal, and says a lot about how commendable Kenmoria really is if you have to point to them having an efficient economy as a point for commending.

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Postby Honeydewistania » Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:51 am

The Grand Imperial Reich wrote:Whether Kenmoria is actually commendable or not is quite a debatable subject, and I'm leaning towards no. I'm also extremely confused as to why their backwards and brutally corporate economy is mentioned in the proposal, especially as the first point. It really is completely irrelevant to the proposal, and says a lot about how commendable Kenmoria really is if you have to point to them having an efficient economy as a point for commending.

Against.

Everyone getting made over a capitalist nation that passed environmental, welfare and educational legislation only makes me more disappointed that Commend Northern Borland didn’t go to vote :lol:
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Postby SunandStars » Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:48 pm

We cannot support privatized justice. That is not to be applauded.

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Postby Honeydewistania » Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:07 pm

Commend Kenmoria was passed 11,747 votes to 2,807.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:06 am

Honeydewistania wrote:
Commend Kenmoria was passed 11,747 votes to 2,807.

Congratulations to all.
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Postby Kenmoria » Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:58 am

Thanks to Honeydewistania for drafting this, and thanks to everyone who voted in favour or provided criticism and feedback to the draft. :)
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Postby Byzconia » Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:22 am

Nice to see we're just going to be handing out commendations now apparently. Can't wait to see future SC proposals to "commend [nation] for being such a good friend to me all this time. Oh and also they passed a couple of resolutions or something."
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Postby Comfed » Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:52 pm

Byzconia wrote:Nice to see we're just going to be handing out commendations now apparently. Can't wait to see future SC proposals to "commend [nation] for being such a good friend to me all this time. Oh and also they passed a couple of resolutions or something."

While some recent resolutions are certainly not up to scratch, the upsurge in C/Cs is largely because the SC is broadening its focus beyond gameplay.
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Postby Honeydewistania » Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:42 pm

Byzconia wrote:Nice to see we're just going to be handing out commendations now apparently. Can't wait to see future SC proposals to "commend [nation] for being such a good friend to me all this time. Oh and also they passed a couple of resolutions or something."

:roll:
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Postby Wayneactia » Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:44 pm

Honeydewistania wrote:
Byzconia wrote:Nice to see we're just going to be handing out commendations now apparently. Can't wait to see future SC proposals to "commend [nation] for being such a good friend to me all this time. Oh and also they passed a couple of resolutions or something."

:roll:

How about responding to comments, instead of posting smart ass similes every once and a while. This was nothing more than a participation badge and you know it.

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Postby Honeydewistania » Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:12 pm

Wayneactia wrote:
Honeydewistania wrote: :roll:

How about responding to comments, instead of posting smart ass similes every once and a while. This was nothing more than a participation badge and you know it.

A “participation badge” would be Commend Morover. Kenmoria doesn’t just pass resolutions (and if they didn’t I still would had proposed this), they are a helpful force in the GA. It’s not all commending someone for being nice and you know it.
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Postby Wayneactia » Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:12 pm

Honeydewistania wrote:
Wayneactia wrote:How about responding to comments, instead of posting smart ass similes every once and a while. This was nothing more than a participation badge and you know it.

A “participation badge” would be Commend Morover. Kenmoria doesn’t just pass resolutions (and if they didn’t I still would had proposed this), they are a helpful force in the GA. It’s not all commending someone for being nice and you know it.

There are tons of helpful people in the GA that aren't commended, and likely wouldn't want to be. It is quite obvious you are shopping for a commendation of your own, thus you have been pushing security council and general assembly resolutions through at a rate never seen before.

As I stated in Free Joy's condemnation thread, we used to vote on maybe three or four C&C's a year, and you had to move the fucking universe to be nominated for one. Take Sep for an example. He made the GA a better place to be, and it took damn near forever for him to commended. Now it seems all it takes is being "helpful".

Like I said, a participation badge and nothing more. It really is a shame too. Kenmoria is a helpful person. It just sucks they wound up being a pawn in your little shopping spree.

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Postby Sedgistan » Sat Nov 28, 2020 2:45 am

Wayneactia wrote:As I stated in Free Joy's condemnation thread, we used to vote on maybe three or four C&C's a year, and you had to move the fucking universe to be nominated for one.

That's not remotely the case. A quick glance through both the passed SC resolutions thread and Bormiar's record of defeated ones shows this claim is completely wrong - we've always voted on far, far more than "three or four" a year. And there were some really dodgy attempts in the early years when the community hadn't worked out its standards for what is Commendable/Condemnable, so you'd get the latest flavour of the month bad guy RPer getting a Condemnation attempt and suchlike.

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Postby Refuge Isle » Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:05 am

Wayneactia wrote:As I stated in Free Joy's condemnation thread, we used to vote on maybe three or four C&C's a year, and you had to move the fucking universe to be nominated for one.

I was so moved by this comment that I spent the last seven hours compiling records to be able to definitively demonstrate that it is disinformation.

I've put together, from the most accurate information I can manage, a list of every SC vote outcome, filtered by type, and gently applied it to this dispatch with my source data. There's no remote world where only three or four C&C votes a year happened, even under the excuse you were being hyperbolic.

Further, although there have been a vast number of votes this year from a variety of motivated authors, we are only just tying really with the volume of proposals from 2011. You may not enjoy the subjects selected, but the activity isn't too much out of the ordinary this year.

And lord knows some bad drafts were turned in during "the good old days".
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:29 am

Good grief that’s a nice bit of research. Always good to rebut assertions with data.
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Postby Wallenburg » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:56 am

Wayneactia wrote:you had to move the fucking universe to be nominated for one. Take Sep for an example. He made the GA a better place to be, and it took damn near forever for him to commended. Now it seems all it takes is being "helpful".

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Postby Outer Sparta » Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:50 am

Sedgistan wrote:
Wayneactia wrote:As I stated in Free Joy's condemnation thread, we used to vote on maybe three or four C&C's a year, and you had to move the fucking universe to be nominated for one.

That's not remotely the case. A quick glance through both the passed SC resolutions thread and Bormiar's record of defeated ones shows this claim is completely wrong - we've always voted on far, far more than "three or four" a year. And there were some really dodgy attempts in the early years when the community hadn't worked out its standards for what is Commendable/Condemnable, so you'd get the latest flavour of the month bad guy RPer getting a Condemnation attempt and suchlike.

Dodgy attempts still happen especially if the author goes on a huge WA campaign to get their bad draft to quorum and it gets destroyed on the voting floor.
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