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Postby Necroghastia » Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:58 pm

Gravlen wrote:At least one Republican State Senator expresses fear of her own constituents.

64 Republicans in the General Assembly signed a letter last week urging Pennsylvania’s congressional delegation to reject the state’s Electoral College votes for Mr. Biden.

Kim Ward, the Republican majority leader of the Pennsylvania Senate, said the president had called her to declare there was fraud in the voting. But she said she had not been shown the letter to Congress, which was pulled together hastily, before its release.

Asked if she would have signed it, she indicated that the Republican base expected party leaders to back up Mr. Trump’s claims — or to face its wrath.

“If I would say to you, ‘I don’t want to do it,’” she said about signing the letter, “I’d get my house bombed tonight.”


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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:00 pm

Kowani wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I’m sure the answer is probably none but what are the chances of these shit suits achieving overturning the election? Gotta think in those terms these days.

negative %

Rusozak wrote:Related question, is it possible to eject a state from the union?
no

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And we have 17 predictably stupid AGs at it, to make matters even more ridiculous.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:12 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Kowani wrote:negative %

no


as long as I get treasury, i'm happy


And we have 17 predictably stupid AGs at it, to make matters even more ridiculous.

I hope they all lose their next elections for such stupidity.

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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:14 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
And we have 17 predictably stupid AGs at it, to make matters even more ridiculous.

I hope they all lose their next elections for such stupidity.

They won't.
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Postby Rusozak » Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:16 pm

Kowani wrote:
Rusozak wrote:Related question, is it possible to eject a state from the union?
no


Ah shoot, guess we're stuck with Texas.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:19 pm

Rusozak wrote:
Kowani wrote:no


Ah shoot, guess we're stuck with Texas.


Please. If any state deserves ejection it's Florida.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:21 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I hope they all lose their next elections for such stupidity.

They won't.

Sadly

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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:21 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Rusozak wrote:
Ah shoot, guess we're stuck with Texas.


Please. If any state deserves ejection it's Florida.

I don't know, I mean, "Florida Man" stories wouldn't be the same if they aren't about our fellow citizens.
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Postby Senkaku » Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:22 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Rusozak wrote:
Ah shoot, guess we're stuck with Texas.


Please. If any state deserves ejection it's Florida.

It's also the most practical to get rid of. You just fire up Project Plowshare again and slice them off from the mainland with a big ol' canal. :p
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:22 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Rusozak wrote:
Ah shoot, guess we're stuck with Texas.


Please. If any state deserves ejection it's Florida.


Shit. I’ll be ejected. :shock:
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:22 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Please. If any state deserves ejection it's Florida.

I don't know, I mean, "Florida Man" stories wouldn't be the same if they aren't about our fellow citizens.


Yeah but Florida Man stories require people to live in Florida and no one deserves that.
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Postby Galloism » Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:23 pm

San Lumen wrote:where is that gif from?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxVivkXUfdU
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Postby Kowani » Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:24 pm

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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:24 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Please. If any state deserves ejection it's Florida.


Shit. I’ll be ejected. :shock:


So will I, but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make. :p
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:26 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Shit. I’ll be ejected. :shock:


So will I, but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make. :p

Sawing off the branch on which one sits.

You are a true patriot.

Or, rather, the fallic appendage of the US South
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:26 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Shit. I’ll be ejected. :shock:


So will I, but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make. :p


Too hardcore.
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Postby Gravlen » Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:26 pm

Trump has filed to intervene in the Texas case which, interestingly, undermines the Texas suit. The whole point of trying to bring the case directly before the SCOTUS is because, supposedly, no other court could rule on the questions. Trump has brought multiple legal challenges already, showing that he could litigate these issues in lower courts.

Regardless, Trump's brief to the Supreme Court makes clear that he's not alleging fraud.

(Edit: Somewhat weird that it's Trump filing this motion. It would clearly have been a more strategic move to have Pence file it.)
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:28 pm

Gravlen wrote:Trump has filed to intervene in the Texas case which, interestingly, undermines the Texas suit. The whole point of trying to bring the case directly before the SCOTUS is because, supposedly, no other court could rule on the questions. Trump has brought multiple legal challenges already, showing that he could litigate these issues in lower courts.

Regardless, Trump's brief to the Supreme Court makes clear that he's not alleging fraud.

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Postby San Lumen » Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:28 pm

Gravlen wrote:Trump has filed to intervene in the Texas case which, interestingly, undermines the Texas suit. The whole point of trying to bring the case directly before the SCOTUS is because, supposedly, no other court could rule on the questions. Trump has brought multiple legal challenges already, showing that he could litigate these issues in lower courts.

Regardless, Trump's brief to the Supreme Court makes clear that he's not alleging fraud.


I hope they realize the precedent they;'d be setting here. if the court rules in their favor which they almost certainly wouldnt any state could sue another if they don't like the outcome of an election. That is a Pandora's Box you do not want to open.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:30 pm

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
So will I, but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make. :p

Sawing off the branch on which one sits.

You are a true patriot.

Or, rather, the fallic appendage of the US South


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Postby Esalia » Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:31 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Sawing off the branch on which one sits.

You are a true patriot.

Or, rather, the fallic appendage of the US South


GOD BLESS AMERICA

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Rest in peace, Florida.

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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:34 pm

Esalia wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
GOD BLESS AMERICA

*salutes unwaveringly as the water begins to rise rapidly*


Rest in peace, Florida.

You gave us many memes, and your Florida Men will not be forgotten.

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Postby Galloism » Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:39 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Gravlen wrote:Trump has filed to intervene in the Texas case which, interestingly, undermines the Texas suit. The whole point of trying to bring the case directly before the SCOTUS is because, supposedly, no other court could rule on the questions. Trump has brought multiple legal challenges already, showing that he could litigate these issues in lower courts.

Regardless, Trump's brief to the Supreme Court makes clear that he's not alleging fraud.


I hope they realize the precedent they;'d be setting here. if the court rules in their favor which they almost certainly wouldnt any state could sue another if they don't like the outcome of an election. That is a Pandora's Box you do not want to open.

SCOTUS is very careful on precedent. This is going out on its ass.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:40 pm

Galloism wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
I hope they realize the precedent they;'d be setting here. if the court rules in their favor which they almost certainly wouldnt any state could sue another if they don't like the outcome of an election. That is a Pandora's Box you do not want to open.

SCOTUS is very careful on precedent. This is going out on its ass.


That is a near certainty.

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Postby Kexholm Karelia » Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:41 pm

Galloism wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
I hope they realize the precedent they;'d be setting here. if the court rules in their favor which they almost certainly wouldnt any state could sue another if they don't like the outcome of an election. That is a Pandora's Box you do not want to open.

SCOTUS is very careful on precedent. This is going out on its ass.

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