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What is the great reset?

1-A nefarious plan to institute a one world government, or at least have absolute control over people.
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2-Eh, Tyrants wanna play at being dictators, what else is new?
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3-Oh my goodness yes, this is exactly what we need to stop the plague of Covid!
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4-It's a buzzword being bounced around, look into the light please....((Conspiracy Theory Option))
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:49 am

What even is the "Great Reset" anyway?
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Postby Adamede » Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:29 am

Vassenor wrote:What even is the "Great Reset" anyway?

Whatever particular NWO conspiracy you want it to be.

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Postby Vassenor » Fri Jan 01, 2021 10:43 am

Adamede wrote:
Vassenor wrote:What even is the "Great Reset" anyway?

Whatever particular NWO conspiracy you want it to be.


OK, let's phrase that a bit better.

What is the Great Reset according to the subject of this thread?
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Postby Kannap » Fri Jan 01, 2021 10:56 am

I love conspiracy theories as much as the next guy but lazy "evil against what the church finds good" Catholic conspiracy theories are lazy.
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Postby Maineiacs » Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:00 am

Vassenor wrote:
Adamede wrote:Whatever particular NWO conspiracy you want it to be.


OK, let's phrase that a bit better.

What is the Great Reset according to the subject of this thread?



How much do you want to bet that this "theory" just a little short on details?
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Postby Xmara » Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:01 am

Vassenor wrote:
Adamede wrote:Whatever particular NWO conspiracy you want it to be.


OK, let's phrase that a bit better.

What is the Great Reset according to the subject of this thread?

Something about how Biden and co. are going to use the pandemic to microchip people and take their property. If you reject the chip, you get sent to a concentration camp and remain there until you change your mind. Oh and they’re gonna institute a one world government and a cashless society. You’ll need the chip to buy goods.

At least that’s what I’ve gathered.
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Postby Kowani » Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:04 am

Vassenor wrote:
Adamede wrote:Whatever particular NWO conspiracy you want it to be.


OK, let's phrase that a bit better.

What is the Great Reset according to the subject of this thread?

Nonsense and bullshit, not necessarily in that order.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:09 am

Xmara wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
OK, let's phrase that a bit better.

What is the Great Reset according to the subject of this thread?

Something about how Biden and co. are going to use the pandemic to microchip people and take their property. If you reject the chip, you get sent to a concentration camp and remain there until you change your mind. Oh and they’re gonna institute a one world government and a cashless society. You’ll need the chip to buy goods.

At least that’s what I’ve gathered.

They need to workshop a better name for this conspiracy.
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Postby Kannap » Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:12 am

Vassenor wrote:
Adamede wrote:Whatever particular NWO conspiracy you want it to be.


OK, let's phrase that a bit better.

What is the Great Reset according to the subject of this thread?


From glancing over the Archbishop's letter:

  • Forces of evil are in all out war against the forces of good and the children of light. The Evil is powerful and organized, the Good are weak and disorganized.
  • Daily attacks by those who seek to destroy the very basis of society: the natural family, respect for human life, love of country, and freedom of education and business.
  • The Great Reset, a global plan designed by a global elite who want to subdue all of humanity and impose coercive measures to drastically limit individual freedoms.
  • This plan has been approved and financed in many nations, but still remains early stages in others.
  • The purpose of the Great Reset? to impose a health dictatorship aiming to impose libertidical measures, masked by promises of universal income and debt cancellation
  • Private landowners will have to renounce ownership of private property
  • Mandatory adherence to a vaccination program, per Bill Gates, that will vaccinate everybody against COVID-19 and COVID-21.
  • Everybody will be required to carry a health passport and digital ID and extensive contact tracing of the entire population - punishment for violation of these things is confinement in detention camps or house arrest.
  • This Great Reset will be activated in some countries before the end of 2020 and during the first trimester of 2021.
  • Great Reset is irreversible
  • Even the Pope himself has betrayed his duty and has fallen into cahoots with this globalist ideology
  • Trump is "the one who opposes" the deep state, not the Pope (who it should be), Trump will oppose the final assault by the children of darkness.
  • Joe Biden's blackmailable nature will expose him
  • The people who control Joe Biden have somebody far worse lined up to replace him
  • The United States is the defending wall against the war of globalism
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Postby Kowani » Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:17 am

Kannap wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
OK, let's phrase that a bit better.

What is the Great Reset according to the subject of this thread?


From glancing over the Archbishop's letter:

  • Forces of evil are in all out war against the forces of good and the children of light. The Evil is powerful and organized, the Good are weak and disorganized.
  • Daily attacks by those who seek to destroy the very basis of society: the natural family, respect for human life, love of country, and freedom of education and business.
  • The Great Reset, a global plan designed by a global elite who want to subdue all of humanity and impose coercive measures to drastically limit individual freedoms.
  • This plan has been approved and financed in many nations, but still remains early stages in others.
  • The purpose of the Great Reset? to impose a health dictatorship aiming to impose libertidical measures, masked by promises of universal income and debt cancellation
  • Private landowners will have to renounce ownership of private property
  • Mandatory adherence to a vaccination program, per Bill Gates, that will vaccinate everybody against COVID-19 and COVID-21.
  • Everybody will be required to carry a health passport and digital ID and extensive contact tracing of the entire population - punishment for violation of these things is confinement in detention camps or house arrest.
  • This Great Reset will be activated in some countries before the end of 2020 and during the first trimester of 2021.
  • Great Reset is irreversible
  • Even the Pope himself has betrayed his duty and has fallen into cahoots with this globalist ideology
  • Trump is "the one who opposes" the deep state, not the Pope (who it should be), Trump will oppose the final assault by the children of darkness.
  • Joe Biden's blackmailable nature will expose him
  • The people who control Joe Biden have somebody far worse lined up to replace him
  • The United States is the defending wall against the war of globalism

So it’s NWO but with Qanon.
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Postby Xmara » Fri Jan 01, 2021 12:14 pm

Kowani wrote:
Kannap wrote:
From glancing over the Archbishop's letter:

  • Forces of evil are in all out war against the forces of good and the children of light. The Evil is powerful and organized, the Good are weak and disorganized.
  • Daily attacks by those who seek to destroy the very basis of society: the natural family, respect for human life, love of country, and freedom of education and business.
  • The Great Reset, a global plan designed by a global elite who want to subdue all of humanity and impose coercive measures to drastically limit individual freedoms.
  • This plan has been approved and financed in many nations, but still remains early stages in others.
  • The purpose of the Great Reset? to impose a health dictatorship aiming to impose libertidical measures, masked by promises of universal income and debt cancellation
  • Private landowners will have to renounce ownership of private property
  • Mandatory adherence to a vaccination program, per Bill Gates, that will vaccinate everybody against COVID-19 and COVID-21.
  • Everybody will be required to carry a health passport and digital ID and extensive contact tracing of the entire population - punishment for violation of these things is confinement in detention camps or house arrest.
  • This Great Reset will be activated in some countries before the end of 2020 and during the first trimester of 2021.
  • Great Reset is irreversible
  • Even the Pope himself has betrayed his duty and has fallen into cahoots with this globalist ideology
  • Trump is "the one who opposes" the deep state, not the Pope (who it should be), Trump will oppose the final assault by the children of darkness.
  • Joe Biden's blackmailable nature will expose him
  • The people who control Joe Biden have somebody far worse lined up to replace him
  • The United States is the defending wall against the war of globalism

So it’s NWO but with Qanon.

Basically yeah

The lengths these people go to deify Trump are absurd and even a bit scary
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Postby Kannap » Fri Jan 01, 2021 12:32 pm

Xmara wrote:
Kowani wrote:So it’s NWO but with Qanon.

Basically yeah

The lengths these people go to deify Trump are absurd and even a bit scary


Not sure what the selection process is for the next Pope, but Trump's running for that spot.
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Postby Xmara » Fri Jan 01, 2021 12:48 pm

Kannap wrote:
Xmara wrote:Basically yeah

The lengths these people go to deify Trump are absurd and even a bit scary


Not sure what the selection process is for the next Pope, but Trump's running for that spot.

Thank God Trump is not Catholic
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Xmara wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Not sure what the selection process is for the next Pope, but Trump's running for that spot.

Thank God Trump is not Catholic


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Postby Vassenor » Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:17 pm

Xmara wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Not sure what the selection process is for the next Pope, but Trump's running for that spot.

Thank God Trump is not Catholic


Honestly, neither was Rodrigo Borgia.
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Postby Stylan » Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:04 pm

The Great Reset, which has thankfully started to be dunked on by various leftists like Caleb Maupin, Zizek, TrueAnon, Bunkerchan and others, is nothing more than the final push to completely turn the West into a neo-feudalist serf state, where everything is rented to you by a corporation, and there is no more "country," you basically live and die in a corporation that takes over all the functions of government.
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Postby Happpy » Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:41 pm

Nilokeras wrote:The faulty logic at the heart of these conspiracies is that the 'elites' would want a lockdown in the first place. Rather it's the opposite: elites, particularly those in control of capital, have been pushing especially hard against any sort of COVID response measures by governments and against lockdowns or other restrictions on peoples' activities, which would necessarily cut down on their ability to continue business as normal.

Good point, although there is one company that wants stricter lockdowns: Amazon. The lockdown has forced more people to buy stuff online, so they are pretty much the only major corporation benefiting from shutdowns and restrictions on movement.

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Xmara wrote:Thank God Trump is not Catholic


Honestly, neither was Rodrigo Borgia.

Please be joking.

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Postby Luminesa » Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:04 pm

Kannap wrote:I love conspiracy theories as much as the next guy but lazy "evil against what the church finds good" Catholic conspiracy theories are lazy.

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Postby Luminesa » Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:07 pm

Kannap wrote:
Xmara wrote:Basically yeah

The lengths these people go to deify Trump are absurd and even a bit scary


Not sure what the selection process is for the next Pope, but Trump's running for that spot.

Well the Pope has to be a Catholic Cardinal. Once the current pope died, the Cardinals have a Conclave. They meet in the Sistine Chapel, pray, and spend time voting. White smoke means we have a new Pope.

I don’t think Trump is interested in the spot, though he has definitely duped many good Catholics into thinking he is their defender. :(
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Postby Nakena » Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:10 pm

Stylan wrote:The Great Reset, which has thankfully started to be dunked on by various leftists like Caleb Maupin, Zizek, TrueAnon, Bunkerchan and others, is nothing more than the final push to completely turn the West into a neo-feudalist serf state, where everything is rented to you by a corporation, and there is no more "country," you basically live and die in a corporation that takes over all the functions of government.


And who or what would supposedly run this corporation according to the great reset theory?

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Postby New Visayan Islands » Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:15 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Kannap wrote:I love conspiracy theories as much as the next guy but lazy "evil against what the church finds good" Catholic conspiracy theories are lazy.

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Postby Bassoe » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:13 pm

Ifreann wrote:What is being reset?

All societal progress since feudalism basically.

The key feature of feudal society is that the majority of the population is functionally property. Serfs weren't exactly private property, like slaves, as your lord couldn't sell you off, but something more like collective private property of the entire noble class.

So, translate that to modern society and you have the majority of the population being hereditary serfs tied to megacorporations, which are the new noble class. Your father worked for McDonalds, so you work for McDonalds and your sons will work for McDonalds and everything you "own" is by the grace of King Ronald allowing you to have it.

Much like the feudal nobility, corporations will hold all of the power under neo-feudalism. The actual state/federal government will be reduced to the position of the king, which, contradictory to popular belief, did not have much power beyond being lord of his own estate. A feudal king was more like a mediator for the interests of the noble class, something like a speaker of the house who everyone agreed would get a tie-breaking vote when the situation called for it.

As for something not specific to feudalism, but European feudalism specifically, you have the clergy forming a separate class from the nobility and the peasantry. In material terms, the clergy was essentially an institution of grifters, and in neofeudalism, we see mass media taking on the same role. Wokeness and pop culture take the place of Christianity. Journalists and celebrities take the place of priests.

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Postby Sundiata » Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:41 am

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Postby Adamede » Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:31 am

Bassoe wrote:
Ifreann wrote:What is being reset?

All societal progress since feudalism basically.

The key feature of feudal society is that the majority of the population is functionally property. Serfs weren't exactly private property, like slaves, as your lord couldn't sell you off, but something more like collective private property of the entire noble class.

So, translate that to modern society and you have the majority of the population being hereditary serfs tied to megacorporations, which are the new noble class. Your father worked for McDonalds, so you work for McDonalds and your sons will work for McDonalds and everything you "own" is by the grace of King Ronald allowing you to have it.

Much like the feudal nobility, corporations will hold all of the power under neo-feudalism. The actual state/federal government will be reduced to the position of the king, which, contradictory to popular belief, did not have much power beyond being lord of his own estate. A feudal king was more like a mediator for the interests of the noble class, something like a speaker of the house who everyone agreed would get a tie-breaking vote when the situation called for it.

As for something not specific to feudalism, but European feudalism specifically, you have the clergy forming a separate class from the nobility and the peasantry. In material terms, the clergy was essentially an institution of grifters, and in neofeudalism, we see mass media taking on the same role. Wokeness and pop culture take the place of Christianity. Journalists and celebrities take the place of priests.

Considering the demographic that generally believes in these conspiracy theories you’d think that they’d enjoy that.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:05 am

Why does Bassoe keep reviving this thread a couple of weeks after people have stopped posting in it? Are they perhaps also Blasted Craigs?

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