Louisville Police Officer Sues Breonna Taylor's Boyfriend

[Myrensis]

Considering how broad "community" is and most of the things I could bring up would likely fall into that category (e.g the correlation between poverty and crime), I should rephrase the question:

What if it's not possible for black people to collectively fix their character, behaviour and community by themselves? As in, what if external factors (e.g the relationship between black communities and police, the legacy of institutions like slavery and segregation, etc.) are responsible (at least in part) for statistics like the 13/50 one?

Your proposed solution is only viable if the problem is exclusively from and caused by black people. For some reason (like, oh I don't know, America's track record with its treatment of minorities, and the fact that situations like Breonna Taylor's still occur), I have a strong doubt that the problems facing black people (at least in regards to policing) are all internal.

I’m not necessarily siding with The Federal Government of Iowa, but I can tell you (and I have heard this from black friends and colleagues in the past) that “thug culture”, gangster rap, and black celebrities encouraging citizen insurgency isn’t exactly helping smooth over race relations and AA-Police relations either.

That's a circular argument though. "If they'd stop reacting badly to being abused and disenfranchised by the authorities, maybe the authorities would stop abusing and disenfranchising them!".

'Thug culture", gangster rap, and citizen insurgency didn't appear in a vacuum.

[Pan Evropa]

its not that hard. On is standard all x are y, and in the other called a whole class of people pigs and also a user rabid

What's the problem?
Neither of them are wrong.
In my opinion, yes, cops are class traitors, there is no such thing as a good cop, you can give examples of cops doing nice things but they're still class traitors nonetheless.
And why shouldn't a person be allowed to call cops "pigs", people have been calling cops "pigs" for years, they chose to be cops, they weren't born cops, you know who was born the way they are? Minorities, the same minorities that cops became cops just to shit on.

And the user was being a rabid racist, albeit trying to hide it with "but... but... the person I agree with was black..", tokenism is just rabid...

And why is being a "class traitor" a bad thing?

[Greater Malegron]

What's the problem?
Neither of them are wrong.
In my opinion, yes, cops are class traitors, there is no such thing as a good cop, you can give examples of cops doing nice things but they're still class traitors nonetheless.
And why shouldn't a person be allowed to call cops "pigs", people have been calling cops "pigs" for years, they chose to be cops, they weren't born cops, you know who was born the way they are? Minorities, the same minorities that cops became cops just to shit on.

And the user was being a rabid racist, albeit trying to hide it with "but... but... the person I agree with was black..", tokenism is just rabid...

And why is being a "class traitor" a bad thing?

It’s not. It’s communist drivel, what they’re saying. Cops aren’t traitors, they are the state’s violent paramilitary. They are doing exactly as intended.

[Nejii]

I’m not necessarily siding with The Federal Government of Iowa, but I can tell you (and I have heard this from black friends and colleagues in the past) that “thug culture”, gangster rap, and black celebrities encouraging citizen insurgency isn’t exactly helping smooth over race relations and AA-Police relations either.

That's a circular argument though. "If they'd stop reacting badly to being abused and disenfranchised by the authorities, maybe the authorities would stop abusing and disenfranchising them!".

'Thug culture", gangster rap, and citizen insurgency didn't appear in a vacuum.

The incorrect stereotype that “all blacks are hoodlums and gangbangers” is only highlighted and negatively enforced by the existence of “thug life”, hardcore militant hip hop music, and wealthy black Americans encouraging partisan insurgence.

I’m not agreeing with it. I’m simply stating a huge rhetoric point that enforces (be it actual or farce) arguments like those of The Federal Government of Iowa’s. The police need positive reform, and in turn, thug culture and urbanism need to go.

[Esalia]

Considering how broad "community" is and most of the things I could bring up would likely fall into that category (e.g the correlation between poverty and crime), I should rephrase the question:

What if it's not possible for black people to collectively fix their character, behaviour and community by themselves? As in, what if external factors (e.g the relationship between black communities and police, the legacy of institutions like slavery and segregation, etc.) are responsible (at least in part) for statistics like the 13/50 one?

Your proposed solution is only viable if the problem is exclusively from and caused by black people. For some reason (like, oh I don't know, America's track record with its treatment of minorities, and the fact that situations like Breonna Taylor's still occur), I have a strong doubt that the problems facing black people (at least in regards to policing) are all internal.

I’m not necessarily siding with The Federal Government of Iowa, but I can tell you (and I have heard this from black friends and colleagues in the past) that “thug culture”, gangster rap, and black celebrities encouraging citizen insurgency isn’t exactly helping smooth over race relations and AA-Police relations either.

I'm not going to argue against that.

It's just that Federal Government of Iowa's solution will only really solve any internal parts of the problem. It wouldn't really solve any problems coming externally (e.g any problems with the police themselves, which is what BLM is mainly focused on).

[Farnhamia]

Its nice you feel that way,

However it is still all x is y, and you can't call other posters racists.

If you dont like the site rules, you dont have to stay here.

It’s actually more like all x is x. And if a poster is racist, then yeah, you can call them racist. Have you seen the shit cops do on a daily basis? Cops are rotten to the core, the very institution. Cops exist solely to perpetuate the white supremacist system and keep other races under their boot. They are functionally similar to the SS. That ain’t trolling, that’s observation. If a cop was “good”, they wouldn’t have become a cop. So the only good cop isn’t.

Sorry, but it is trolling - your "observation" boils down to "all cops are bastards," and you get a *** 7 day ban *** for it.

[The Federal Government of Iowa]

I’m not necessarily siding with The Federal Government of Iowa, but I can tell you (and I have heard this from black friends and colleagues in the past) that “thug culture”, gangster rap, and black celebrities encouraging citizen insurgency isn’t exactly helping smooth over race relations and AA-Police relations either.

I'm not going to argue against that.

It's just that Federal Government of Iowa's solution will only really solve any internal parts of the problem. It wouldn't really solve any problems coming externally (e.g any problems with the police themselves, which is what BLM is mainly focused on).

Fair enough. However, I don't view the police as an aggravating force, I think of them as a responsive force. If anyone is up to no good, the cops will come and deal with them. If you stop being up to no good, the cops will leave you alone, at least they should. By stabilizing the black community and culture, I think that the black crime rate and poverty level will drop very quickly. I am no expert on Criminal justice or why some things are the way they are, so I'll leave that debate to those who do know, but multiple things can be true at once. The black community has some problems that stem from the inside and could very well have issues that are caused by outside forces. In order to prove that they actually care, I do think they need to recognize and start to repair their own community. If they do that, I think everyone will be more willing to hear what they have to say.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

What a twat. That’s all I have to say about him.

[Servilis]

What's the problem?
Neither of them are wrong.
In my opinion, yes, cops are class traitors, there is no such thing as a good cop, you can give examples of cops doing nice things but they're still class traitors nonetheless.
And why shouldn't a person be allowed to call cops "pigs", people have been calling cops "pigs" for years, they chose to be cops, they weren't born cops, you know who was born the way they are? Minorities, the same minorities that cops became cops just to shit on.

And the user was being a rabid racist, albeit trying to hide it with "but... but... the person I agree with was black..", tokenism is just rabid...

And why is being a "class traitor" a bad thing?

Same reason why being a bootlicker is a bad thing.
You are throwing your fellows under the bus just so you can get the title of "one of the good ones"

[Servilis]

It’s actually more like all x is x. And if a poster is racist, then yeah, you can call them racist. Have you seen the shit cops do on a daily basis? Cops are rotten to the core, the very institution. Cops exist solely to perpetuate the white supremacist system and keep other races under their boot. They are functionally similar to the SS. That ain’t trolling, that’s observation. If a cop was “good”, they wouldn’t have become a cop. So the only good cop isn’t.

Sorry, but it is trolling - your "observation" boils down to "all cops are bastards," and you get a *** 7 day ban *** for it.

All of Farmhanias Warnings Are Both Shortsighted and Influenced By His Ideology

go ahead, give me the ol' moderation
do it,

[Servilis]

And why is being a "class traitor" a bad thing?

It’s not. It’s communist drivel, what they’re saying. Cops aren’t traitors, they are the state’s violent paramilitary. They are doing exactly as intended.

thats... thats what a class traitor is... yes... a bootlicker... one whom throws their fellows under the bus so they can get special treatment from the oppressor

[Servilis]

Gee, it’s almost like cops were created specifically to enforce and perpetuate a racist system. You can take that “some cops are bad but it’s not all cops” and throw it down a well. If you’re too privileged to see the rot behind the very institution of police itself, rather than individuals, that’s on you. Why wouldn’t we burn it all down. It’s a vehicle through which the oppressor controls the oppressed.

Please, stop, you're going to make me pee myself!

What a load of garbage that statement is. One of the first things you need in a functional society are laws and people who enforce the laws. Of course, they sometimes become abused and that's the story of broken humanity.
"Racist system" my a##. People of color in the US still have more wealth than almost any other POC anywhere else in the world. Mind you, I'm not the whitest of all white people, I've been mistaken as someone who's from South America or sometimes as someone who's from the South Pacific region, and I have not once had an issue with any cop ever.
"Privileged" my a## as well. I'm considered lower middle class, which is still quite good compared to the rest of the world. I see no fact in your statement, not a lick.

my dude they're still poorer than the average white guy regardless

[Servilis]

What's the problem?
Neither of them are wrong.
In my opinion, yes, cops are class traitors, there is no such thing as a good cop, you can give examples of cops doing nice things but they're still class traitors nonetheless.
And why shouldn't a person be allowed to call cops "pigs", people have been calling cops "pigs" for years, they chose to be cops, they weren't born cops, you know who was born the way they are? Minorities, the same minorities that cops became cops just to shit on.

And the user was being a rabid racist, albeit trying to hide it with "but... but... the person I agree with was black..", tokenism is just rabid...

*** Warned for trolling ***

You're welcome to opinions and to express them here but it would be better if you expressed them in a civil manner. If you cannot do that, please don't post. If you can't do that, you might want to consider patronizing a different site.

oh my god farmhania you absolute braindead fool you did the thing

you did the thing where you proved my point

as i just described

you are a time bomb waiting to tick

fucking hell i can call you a cock and you'd lose your shit

and you still prove the bias

there are people out in this thread saying racist shit in such an uncivil manner and you're acting like they don't exist

whats the point of playing video games if i get more kicks out of a conservative moderator giving shortsighted bans than i do bludgeoning nazeem to death in front of all of whiterun to see

[Servilis]

It’s actually more like all x is x. And if a poster is racist, then yeah, you can call them racist. Have you seen the shit cops do on a daily basis? Cops are rotten to the core, the very institution. Cops exist solely to perpetuate the white supremacist system and keep other races under their boot. They are functionally similar to the SS. That ain’t trolling, that’s observation. If a cop was “good”, they wouldn’t have become a cop. So the only good cop isn’t.

Sorry, but it is trolling - your "observation" boils down to "all cops are bastards," and you get a *** 7 day ban *** for it.

greater malegron was just arguing with loben iii, who outwardly blatantly said that black nationalists should be deported to africa, which btw is, as far as im concerned



notta very gooda



please stop proving my point, goddamn

[Kowani]

I'm not going to argue against that.

It's just that Federal Government of Iowa's solution will only really solve any internal parts of the problem. It wouldn't really solve any problems coming externally (e.g any problems with the police themselves, which is what BLM is mainly focused on).

Fair enough. However, I don't view the police as an aggravating force, I think of them as a responsive force. If anyone is up to no good, the cops will come and deal with them.

Is that hy wage theft outpaced the monetary value of every other kind of theft and yet the cops did nothing?

If you stop being up to no good, the cops will leave you alone, at least they should.

This is, by the way, false.

By stabilizing the black community and culture, I think that the black crime rate and poverty level will drop very quickly. I am no expert on Criminal justice or why some things are the way they are, so I'll leave that debate to those who do know, but multiple things can be true at once. The black community has some problems that stem from the inside and could very well have issues that are caused by outside forces. In order to prove that they actually care, I do think they need to recognize and start to repair their own community. If they do that, I think everyone will be more willing to hear what they have to say.

This is nonsense.
But a single question: Why do you think black people have worse culture?

[Servilis]

Fair enough. However, I don't view the police as an aggravating force, I think of them as a responsive force. If anyone is up to no good, the cops will come and deal with them.

Is that hy wage theft outpaced the monetary value of every other kind of theft and yet the cops did nothing?

If you stop being up to no good, the cops will leave you alone, at least they should.

This is, by the way, false.

By stabilizing the black community and culture, I think that the black crime rate and poverty level will drop very quickly. I am no expert on Criminal justice or why some things are the way they are, so I'll leave that debate to those who do know, but multiple things can be true at once. The black community has some problems that stem from the inside and could very well have issues that are caused by outside forces. In order to prove that they actually care, I do think they need to recognize and start to repair their own community. If they do that, I think everyone will be more willing to hear what they have to say.

This is nonsense.
But a single question: Why do you think black people have worse culture?

^^^

[Washington Resistance Army]

But a single question: Why do you think black people have worse culture?

Because of actions by various groups in American society before, during and after the civil rights era up to and including the federal government to destabilize and destroy black communities to keep them down and politically docile.

[Servilis]

*** Warned for trolling ***

You're welcome to opinions and to express them here but it would be better if you expressed them in a civil manner. If you cannot do that, please don't post. If you can't do that, you might want to consider patronizing a different site.

oh my god farmhania you absolute braindead fool you did the thing

you did the thing where you proved my point

as i just described

you are a time bomb waiting to tick

fucking hell i can call you a cock and you'd lose your shit

and you still prove the bias

there are people out in this thread saying racist shit in such an uncivil manner and you're acting like they don't exist

whats the point of playing video games if i get more kicks out of a conservative moderator giving shortsighted bans than i do bludgeoning nazeem to death in front of all of whiterun to see

im not even trolling here, farmhania

im being genuine

i clearly believe that you are a fool

a literal clown

"You're welcome to opinions and to express them here but it would be better if you expressed them in a civil manner. If you cannot do that, please don't post. If you can't do that, you might want to consider patronizing a different site."

my guy didnt Loben III just blatantly say black nationalists should be deported to africa


if saying "ACAB" is trolling, then pissing on a rock in your own home could be considered creating moonshine

[New Visayan Islands]

*** Warned for trolling ***

You're welcome to opinions and to express them here but it would be better if you expressed them in a civil manner. If you cannot do that, please don't post. If you can't do that, you might want to consider patronizing a different site.

oh my god farmhania you absolute braindead fool you did the thing

you did the thing where you proved my point

as i just described

you are a time bomb waiting to tick

fucking hell i can call you a cock and you'd lose your shit

and you still prove the bias

there are people out in this thread saying racist shit in such an uncivil manner and you're acting like they don't exist

whats the point of playing video games if i get more kicks out of a conservative moderator giving shortsighted bans than i do bludgeoning nazeem to death in front of all of whiterun to see

oh my god farmhania you absolute braindead fool you did the thing

you did the thing where you proved my point

as i just described

you are a time bomb waiting to tick

fucking hell i can call you a cock and you'd lose your shit

and you still prove the bias

there are people out in this thread saying racist shit in such an uncivil manner and you're acting like they don't exist

whats the point of playing video games if i get more kicks out of a conservative moderator giving shortsighted bans than i do bludgeoning nazeem to death in front of all of whiterun to see

im not even trolling here, farmhania

im being genuine

i clearly believe that you are a fool

a literal clown

"You're welcome to opinions and to express them here but it would be better if you expressed them in a civil manner. If you cannot do that, please don't post. If you can't do that, you might want to consider patronizing a different site."

my guy didnt Loben III just blatantly say black nationalists should be deported to africa


if saying "ACAB" is trolling, then pissing on a rock in your own home could be considered creating moonshine

Take *** one day off for flaming. ***

[Chestaan]

So he kills Breonna Taylor and then sues her boyfriend for "emotional distress". This fuck deserves to rot in prison

[Kowani]

But a single question: Why do you think black people have worse culture?

Because of actions by various groups in American society before, during and after the civil rights era up to and including the federal government to destabilize and destroy black communities to keep them down and politically docile.

Oh, I know. I want to see if they’ll come to that conclusion.

[Cordel One]

its not that hard. On is standard all x are y, and in the other called a whole class of people pigs and also a user rabid

What's the problem?
Neither of them are wrong.
In my opinion, yes, cops are class traitors, there is no such thing as a good cop, you can give examples of cops doing nice things but they're still class traitors nonetheless.
And why shouldn't a person be allowed to call cops "pigs", people have been calling cops "pigs" for years, they chose to be cops, they weren't born cops, you know who was born the way they are? Minorities, the same minorities that cops became cops just to shit on.

And the user was being a rabid racist, albeit trying to hide it with "but... but... the person I agree with was black..", tokenism is just rabid...

I would like to add in a less edgy way a similar issue I have with Moderation on this issue. Bcause of the way the rules are set up, a user could go as far as to nearly advocate genocide but the moment an individual replies saying that all people involved in the genocide are bad a line is crossed. Now, while police aren't quite that horrible the system they serve is racist, meaning it's part of the job to enforce an unjust hierarchy.

Anyways, "all X are Y "should be eliminated as a rule, and maybe adding some rules against some of the worst racism would be good.

[Aeritai]

What's the problem?
Neither of them are wrong.
In my opinion, yes, cops are class traitors, there is no such thing as a good cop, you can give examples of cops doing nice things but they're still class traitors nonetheless.
And why shouldn't a person be allowed to call cops "pigs", people have been calling cops "pigs" for years, they chose to be cops, they weren't born cops, you know who was born the way they are? Minorities, the same minorities that cops became cops just to shit on.

And the user was being a rabid racist, albeit trying to hide it with "but... but... the person I agree with was black..", tokenism is just rabid...

I would like to add in a less edgy way a similar issue I have with Moderation on this issue. Bcause of the way the rules are set up, a user could go as far as to nearly advocate genocide but the moment an individual replies saying that all people involved in the genocide are bad a line is crossed. Now, while police aren't quite that horrible the system they serve is racist, meaning it's part of the job to enforce an unjust hierarchy.

Anyways, "all X are Y "should be eliminated as a rule, and maybe adding some rules against some of the worst racism would be good.

You do know that if "all x are y" is removed, right-wingers can easily say stuff like "Oh liberals are baby killers!"

Note To Mods: I was just using a example of all x are y.

[Cordel One]

I would like to add in a less edgy way a similar issue I have with Moderation on this issue. Bcause of the way the rules are set up, a user could go as far as to nearly advocate genocide but the moment an individual replies saying that all people involved in the genocide are bad a line is crossed. Now, while police aren't quite that horrible the system they serve is racist, meaning it's part of the job to enforce an unjust hierarchy.

Anyways, "all X are Y "should be eliminated as a rule, and maybe adding some rules against some of the worst racism would be good.

You do know that if "all x are y" is removed, right-wingers can easily say stuff like "Oh liberals are baby killers!"

Note To Mods: I was just using a example of all x are y.

I'd be fine with people doing that so long as they aren't being racist.

[Gravlen]

“Anti-cop nonsense”. Either you haven’t been paying attention, or worse, you don’t care. If you don’t see the wrongs that cops are committing, then I don’t know what to tell you.

I have probably been paying more attention than you. I've read some of your posts and they are chock-full of miss-info. Yeah, sometimes humans, who are broken and fallible creatures, do bad things. It happens.
You, however, have seemed to swallow hole the "burn it all down because it's irreversibly racist" pill that is honestly the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life.

I am amused by your pearl-clutching concerning misinformation, in light of your complete lack of effort to point out said misinformation or to correct it.