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What would happen?

The international community would take enough actions (please specify which actions) to force the USA to relinquish Canada. International laws and norms do work.
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There’s nothing the international community would/could do. The USA would succeed in taking and keeping Canada. International laws and norms don’t work.
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Postby Cocuryeo » Sun Nov 01, 2020 2:15 am

Picairn wrote:
Cocuryeo wrote:I mean, no nation wants to increase their debt just to wage war.

If that's the case then no country would have caused wars. Yet humanity have had wars since third millenium BCE (the first recorded war anyway, there are definitely wars in the Stone Age as well).


Haven't you heard of the word, "Casus belli"?
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Postby Picairn » Sun Nov 01, 2020 2:18 am

Cocuryeo wrote:Haven't you heard of the word, "Casus belli"?

Hitler needed no casus belli to invade the Soviet Union.
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Postby Cocuryeo » Sun Nov 01, 2020 2:20 am

Picairn wrote:
Cocuryeo wrote:Haven't you heard of the word, "Casus belli"?

Hitler needed no casus belli to invade the Soviet Union.


Wasn't Lebensraum his casus belli?
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Postby Picairn » Sun Nov 01, 2020 2:24 am

Cocuryeo wrote:Wasn't Lebensraum his casus belli?

No, that's a misunderstanding of the term. Casus belli is a Latin expression meaning "an act or event that provokes or is used to justify war" (literally, "an occasion of war"). A motivating ideology is not casus belli. If the Soviet Union had provoked Germany into war, then that act of provocation could have been used as casus belli.
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Postby Cocuryeo » Sun Nov 01, 2020 2:25 am

Picairn wrote:
Cocuryeo wrote:Wasn't Lebensraum his casus belli?

No, that's a misunderstanding of the term. Casus belli is a Latin expression meaning "an act or event that provokes or is used to justify war" (literally, "an occasion of war"). A motivating ideology is not casus belli. If the Soviet Union had provoked Germany into war, then that act of provocation could have been used as casus belli.


Oh, I thought casus belli was an excuse that led to war, such as the Pearl Harbor attack in 1941 that led the U.S. to attack Japan.
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Postby Picairn » Sun Nov 01, 2020 2:26 am

Cocuryeo wrote:Oh, I thought casus belli was an excuse that led to war, such as the Pearl Harbor attack in 1941 that led the U.S. to attack Japan.

Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor was a valid casus belli. In contrast, the Soviet Union didn't do anything that provoked Germany into war, but it did anyway.
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Postby Cocuryeo » Sun Nov 01, 2020 2:27 am

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Cocuryeo wrote:Oh, I thought casus belli was an excuse that led to war, such as the Pearl Harbor attack in 1941 that led the U.S. to attack Japan.

Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor was a valid casus belli. In contrast, the Soviet Union didn't do anything that provoked Germany into war, but it did anyway.


Oh, okay. Got you, so where were we?
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Postby Nejii » Sun Nov 01, 2020 2:28 am

Make way for the lumberjack, moose, and Mountie liberation militia army. The LMMLA.
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Postby Cocuryeo » Sun Nov 01, 2020 2:48 am

Nejii wrote:Make way for the lumberjack, moose, and Mountie liberation militia army. The LMMLA.


And the Poutine Squadron.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Nov 01, 2020 3:49 am

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Adersi wrote:i wish they would

OK I'll bite: why?

No response eh? I figured it was a dump and run post that wouldn't be backed up by anything at all, and here we are.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Nov 01, 2020 3:55 am

What if the war started over hockey?
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Postby -Astoria- » Sun Nov 01, 2020 3:58 am

The New California Republic wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:OK I'll bite: why?

No response eh? I figured it was a dump and run post that wouldn't be backed up by anything at all, and here we are.

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:04 am

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Greater Miami Shores wrote:But the war was actually with Britain, I think the war today would be just with Canada. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_1812
The War of 1812 was a conflict fought between the United States and its allies, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland and its allies.

I have posted I like the nation of Canada and its people.


I guarantee you I know US History. Way to torpedo any semblance of fun.


Unlike in 1962 where Valentin Grigorievitch Savitsky almost torpedoed any semblance of fun. But Vasily Arkhipov stopped it.
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Postby Nejii » Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:10 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:What if the war started over hockey?


It wouldn't be the first "sports war".
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:15 am

Nejii wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:What if the war started over hockey?


It wouldn't be the first "sports war".


Although I think Canadian dominance over hockey is waning

sadly
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Postby Ecorria » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:48 pm

Adersi wrote:i wish they would


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Postby Kannap » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:51 pm

Boy golly If we invade Canada again, I hope the British burn down the White House again.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:54 pm

The glorious Canadian moose army will save the day.

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