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French Exhibit on Genghis Khan Pressured by China

Postby Phaenix » Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:11 pm

Here's one of the many articles about this.
So, we all know about China. The greatest "communist" nation since the fall of the Soviet Union, the Chinese Communist Party is notorious for cracking down on anything critical of China. Apparently, though Genghis was not alive anywhere near the rise of Communist China, nor the time of Karl Marx, he has offended the CCP by existing. The Paris-based exhibit received a message from the Chinese government, asking that they remove several words such as "empire" and even Genghis' name, and replace it all with an obviously false retelling of history, with the Mongols replaced with Han Chinese, and a bias towards China. Thankfully, the director of the project refused to bend to China, yet he still closed the exhibit. And even worse, many experts fear that the movie and gaming industries will rewrite history to change, or even remove, Genghis to gain access to the Chinese market.

So, NSG, what is your take on this? Is China in the right to simply erase history? In my opinion, no matter how humiliating or terrible the event was, history should never be erased, especially not the history of one of the most important conquerors in world history.
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Postby Karakars » Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:15 pm

And this is why hell should have been raised when the PRC did the same to the Jurchen (Manchu) empire, and claimed all of Jurchen history as Chinese.

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Postby Mauritania Romana » Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:19 pm

Horrible

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Postby Diahon » Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:19 pm

authoritarians offended by facts? i am shocked

these are my shocked words, now picture my surprised face

i am more worried that xi not only has the desire to remake history to his favor, even outside china, but that people feel themselves scared enough to make a run for it before something bad happens
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:20 pm

They should double down by opening exhibits on the Wuhan Virus and the leadership of Chiang Kai-shek.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:21 pm

Tell the ccp to shove their heads up their assholes. We don't need to stop just cause those tyrannical snowflakes got a problem.
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Postby Kyundao » Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:22 pm

Chiang Kai-shek should have never listened to the West regarding that pestilential CCP. He had the one chance to prevent all things bad about mainland China and he fucking blew it.
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Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:22 pm

Diahon wrote:authoritarians offended by facts? i am shocked

these are my shocked words, now picture my surprised face

i am more worried that xi not only has the desire to remake history to his favor, even outside china, but that people feel themselves scared enough to make a run for it before something bad happens

I do not understand why people feel the need to bow to the CCP. IMO, they should crack down on them, especially for, well.... Not with war or anything--the people do not deserve to suffer for the actions of the Xi, and--I'll go read the article now.
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Postby Karakars » Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:23 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:They should double down by opening exhibits on the Wuhan Virus and the leadership of Chiang Kai-shek.


And one on Mao's purge of the intellectuals - and how the purgers' children are now often millionaires and billionaires...

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Postby Diahon » Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:24 pm

Karakars wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:They should double down by opening exhibits on the Wuhan Virus and the leadership of Chiang Kai-shek.


And one on Mao's purge of the intellectuals - and how the purgers' children are now often millionaires and billionaires...


no, fuck that shit
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Postby Karakars » Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:24 pm

Kyundao wrote:Chiang Kai-shek should have never listened to the West regarding that pestilential CCP. He had the one chance to prevent all things bad about mainland China and he fucking blew it.


Forgive my ignorance: what chance was that?

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Postby Phaenix » Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:25 pm

Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:
Diahon wrote:authoritarians offended by facts? i am shocked

these are my shocked words, now picture my surprised face

i am more worried that xi not only has the desire to remake history to his favor, even outside china, but that people feel themselves scared enough to make a run for it before something bad happens

I do not understand why people feel the need to bow to the CCP. IMO, they should crack down on them, especially for, well.... Not with war or anything--the people do not deserve to suffer for the actions of the Xi, and--I'll go read the article now.

They feel the need to bow because, realistically, to simply bow out of the Chinese market is suicide. China has one of the largest populations in the world, so Hollywood and many other big names in media are all too happy to bend head over heels for Xi to get that sweet, sweet money.
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Postby Picairn » Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:26 pm

Let's open a new museum displaying the atrocities of Maoist China.
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Postby Dominioan » Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:26 pm

Wow, more China doing sh*t.

(Did they have to go after my boy Genghis though?)
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Postby Diahon » Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:26 pm

Kyundao wrote:Chiang Kai-shek should have never listened to the West regarding that pestilential CCP. He had the one chance to prevent all things bad about mainland China and he fucking blew it.


yesnoyesnoyesnoyesnoyesnoyesnoimean

can we just agree the generalissimo was full of shit himself, so that taiwan suffered under his rule? please?
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Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:26 pm

I'm sorry, France is taking orders from China now? *Insert surrender joke here.* I'm sorry, but the Mongols are way better than the CCP. And probably not The Impostor.
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Postby Outer Bratorke » Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:28 pm

There just jealous that Genghis Khan had the largest land empire ever, and China is always behind.

For real though, we need to stop bowing to the pressure of China.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:29 pm

Time to open The Covid museum. the first display will be a recreation of a wet market with raw poached animals and unsanitary conditions that would make anyone vomit.

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Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:30 pm

Outer Bratorke wrote:There just jealous that Genghis Khan had the largest land empire ever, and China is always behind.

For real though, we need to stop bowing to the pressure of China.

Yeah, I'm sick of it.
The whole world is literally sick from it (the CCP--not the country itself. The government.)
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Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:31 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Time to open The Covid museum. the first display will be a recreation of a wet market with raw poached animals and unsanitary conditions that would make anyone vomit.

How you like us now CCP?

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The Two Jerseys wrote:They should double down by opening exhibits on the Wuhan Virus and the leadership of Chiang Kai-shek.

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:31 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Time to open The Covid museum. the first display will be a recreation of a wet market with raw poached animals and unsanitary conditions that would make anyone vomit.

How you like us now CCP?

It's going to be across the street from the Dalai Lama statue, right?
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Postby Dominioan » Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:31 pm

Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:
Outer Bratorke wrote:There just jealous that Genghis Khan had the largest land empire ever, and China is always behind.

For real though, we need to stop bowing to the pressure of China.

Yeah, I'm sick of it.
The whole world is literally sick from it (the CCP--not the country itself. The government.)
(This is where we wonder if WF is actually fully informed...am I onto something or just an ignorant alleged eldritch being?)

The whole world is sick, but most economies are inevitably intertwined with China in some way.
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Postby Diahon » Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:32 pm

Karakars wrote:
Kyundao wrote:Chiang Kai-shek should have never listened to the West regarding that pestilential CCP. He had the one chance to prevent all things bad about mainland China and he fucking blew it.


Forgive my ignorance: what chance was that?


chiang had the chance to end or at least severely limit the ccp in the north with an offensive, only george marshall on truman's orders intervened with a proposal for a unity government

chiang's advance lost its momentum, mao gained time to gather more personnel and arms, and so launched his own counteroffensive, eventually winning control of all china
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Postby Kyundao » Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:32 pm

Diahon wrote:
Kyundao wrote:Chiang Kai-shek should have never listened to the West regarding that pestilential CCP. He had the one chance to prevent all things bad about mainland China and he fucking blew it.


yesnoyesnoyesnoyesnoyesnoyesnoimean

can we just agree the generalissimo was full of shit himself, so that taiwan suffered under his rule? please?

The guy may have been full of shit, but he was the lesser of two evils. Had he given the West the finger and completely encircled the Communists, China would've been much better off in the long run (tens of millions certainly wouldn't have died and all of China would've democratized like Taiwan did) and we sure as hell wouldn't be having this "we-must-censor-Ghengis" drama.

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