What Really Happened to MH370?

[Rusozak]

Hijacking? It would explain being drastically off course. The whole situation prior to last contact has 9/11 vibes.

What's the point of a terrorist act nobody learns about, though? Unless something went wrong and the plane went down somewhere it was not supposed to.

Very possible. Reminds me of United 93. Or perhaps it was shot down to prevent it from reaching its target and covered up.

[Feyrisshire]

It got swooped in into an extradimensional portal and got taken by aliens.

[New Carthagea]

It got swooped in into an extradimensional portal and got taken by aliens.

Confirmed huh

[Shofercia]

Russian troops accidentally shot it down during the invasion of Ukraine.

https://www.rferl.org/a/when-russia-bac ... 56279.html

Oh yes, I've heard that, it's more complex because it involved switching the planes.

Putin secretly switched planes by changing the gravitational constant of the Sun to account for the Milky Way's various degree shifts...

Thread needs poll.


I blame Hasselhoff.

I agree, this is NSG, we need a Hasselhoff poll.

Why is it so impossible for people to believe the plane simply crashed? Pilot, electronic, and mechanical errors do occur. Planes do crash on occasion. Planes are made mostly out of aluminum. When aluminum hits the ocean at 500 mph it tends to disintigrate. Aluminum sinks in water. Therefor 99% of mh370 is in the bottem of an ocean possibly 26000 ft down. Yes black boxes are suppose to float. Yet there is certainly possibility that all of them sank for various reasons after all they were involved in a plane crash. Any debris that floats would travel the currents. Perhaps a hundred miles a day or more. Could it be al Sharpton is secretly a north korean space ninja sent back in time to hijack mh370 and avert ww4? Sure why not. I just dont considers yalls nutty theories to be remotely as plausable as the mundane and most probable thing.

MH370 simply crashed.

That's no fun. What about a secret submarine missile test? And then the missile merged with the plane, formed into Voltron, and saved the Galaxy from Silver Surfer.

[Cordel One]

This might be a little farfetched, but I think something happened that made it crash. We've already found parts of it, it might even be destroyed.

[Mathuvan Union]

This might be a little farfetched, but I think something happened that made it crash. We've already found parts of it, it might even be destroyed.

it could've been shot down...

[Cordel One]

This might be a little farfetched, but I think something happened that made it crash. We've already found parts of it, it might even be destroyed.

it could've been shot down...

It still would've resulted in a crash

[Mathuvan Union]

it could've been shot down...

It still would've resulted in a crash

unless it was hit by a SAM.

[Ethel mermania]

It still would've resulted in a crash

unless it was hit by a SAM.

it would still crash

[Punished UMN]

It crashed. It happens. Rarely, but it happens.

[Xmara]

I speculate that it was an accident. Seems like the most likely case.

Back when that happened, I actually tried to contact Malaysia Airlines with where I thought it may have crashed. I suggested that it crashed about 1000 miles east of Mauritius.

I was 15 at the time and thought I knew everything.

[WayNeacTia]

I dont think we will ever know with certainty what happened given the wreckage has yet to be located.

Good chance it is sitting right next to Emilia Earheart's plane.

[Stellar Colonies]

Perhaps every hypothesis is simultaneously correct.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Witchcraft.

[Saiwania]

We know it crashed in the middle of the Indian ocean but we don't really know why the plane was so off course. The pilot was grossly incompetent or more likely did it on purpose. Even if the navigation on board didn't work, a decent pilot could figure out they're going the wrong way and turn towards land or the nearest radio towers to judge where they could land or reroute.

[Purpelia]

My bet is the pilot wanted to commit suicide and take everyone with him. And he picked a place in the middle of the ocean hoping that he'd newer be found. This wouldn't be the first times pilots did such a thing. I remember back when a guy flew his plane into the alps.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

I'm guessing the pilot killed the passengers by depressurization and eventually freezing, early on, about the time he deviated from the the flight path to Beijing. Since he then flew over Malaysia and didn't want to risk any passengers getting phone signal. That's probably not even necessary (phone towers have weak signals upwards or down from a plane) but if he was planning to kill them, as-early-as-possible still makes the most sense.

From the last secondary-radar location north of Banda Ache, I think he would have flown SW or WSW to stay away from land, then SSW to get as far as possible south into the Indian Ocean. With the last of the fuel he would have dived into the ocean, as hard as possible to cause sudden death to himself and to break the plane up.

I still find it puzzling that with all the searches, floating debris wasn't noticed. The plane and its consist surely contain a lot of buoyant parts and items. The alternative that the pilot managed a ditch in the ocean and let the plane sink, creates the greater puzzle of why ships and submarines with side-scanning radar couldn't find it.

According to records, the plane took off with 49 metric tons of fuel, allowing a safety margin above the 37 tons required to get to Beijing. However, the 777 can carry a lot more than that (this was a 777-2H6ER not listed in Wikipedia). Fuel capacity is something between 150,000 and 180,000 L ... or 120 metric tons up to 140 tons. If the plane had been given extra fuel by a complicit ground staff perhaps it could have flown all the way to Antarctica?

Or if not that far, at least into the Southern (Antarctic) Ocean which has a vortex current, keeping it from mixing with adjacent oceans. Whether it was on the bottom but further South than predicted, or whether it broke up but most of the debris stayed in the Southern Ocean, the lack of success in discovering the wreck (only a few pieces of it) could be explained by extra fuel.

The parachute
One of the most imaginative stories doing the rounds is that one of the pilots, Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah, parachuted out of the plane to meet his secret lover waiting on a boat.

Maybe. Not particularly interesting as it shed no light on what happened to the plane.

Ghost plane ...co-pilot Fariq Abdul Hamid at the controls, meaning he was the only one left alive, flying the plane alone for hours before crashing.

...and not knowing how to use the radio? Or fly towards an airport? No.

Remote cyber hijacking

Even if hackers could disable the radio, there must be some emergency radio or beacon not dependent on the flight system. No.

Cracks in the plane
Perhaps the most prosaic, yet also most believable, theory as to why the plane went down does not centre around a conspiracy at all, but well-documented faults with the plane that could have led to it crashing.

We're sure it didn't crash in the Andaman Sea. So? Then something went so badly wrong the plane turned 160 degrees, then they got it back under control and flew for ... Bandah Aceh which was further than the much better equipped Manila? No. Also, again the radio.

The Cambodia theory
In 2018, a British video producer claimed to have spotted the aircraft's remains in Cambodia, using images from Google Maps which were dated for that year.

Wilson said that he planned to visit the jungle in order to prove his theory.

We'll wait on that one then. Probably a no but good luck mate.

The ‘Asian’ Bermuda Triangle
One of the most popular theories on social media is the idea that there could be a second Bermuda Triangle somewhere in the Indian Ocean, explaining MH370’s sudden disappearance.
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In a bid to back-up this hypothesis, some people – including one Malaysian minister – claimed that the area where MH370 vanished is on the exact opposite side of the globe to the Bermuda Triangle. This is, of course, untrue.

I laughed.

The pilot wanted to ‘create the world’s greatest mystery’
Former Australian prime minister Tony Abbott says he believes flight MH370 was brought down intentionally by a pilot who wanted to “create the world’s greatest mystery”.

Speaking ahead of the third anniversary of the plane’s disappearance, he said: “I have always said the most plausible scenario was murder-suicide and if this guy wanted to create the world’s greatest mystery why wouldn’t he have piloted the thing to the very end and gone further south?”

As it's a "theory" about motive, it can't be disproved. I find it plausible. Still doesn't explain what happened to the plane.

North Korea took MH370

No.

Shot down
In March 2018, an Australian man made the sensational claim that he had found the wreckage of MH370 using Google Earth.

Peter McMahon, a mechanical engineer and amateur crash investigator, spent years combing the Indian Ocean on Google Earth looking for the plane. According to McMahon, the wreckage of the flight - which he claimed was riddled with bullet holes ...

No. Next.

The case of the murdered diplomat
Another conspiracy theory surrounds the death of a Malaysian diplomat who had spent years investigating the crash.

In August 2017, Zahid Raza, the honorary Malaysian consul in Madagascar, was shot dead in Madagascar’s capital Antananarivo in an apparent assassination. Amateur US flight investigator Blaine Gibson, who worked with Raza in tracking down debris from the plane, told Malay Mail that the diplomat “appeared to have been specifically targeted” and claimed that he has also received death threats.

Dr Victor Iannello, an original member of the independent group of specialists that helped Australian investigators try to pinpoint the plane’s crash site in the southern Indian Ocean, said the timing of Raza’s assassination just days before he was due to deliver several new pieces of debris to the Malaysian Ministry of Transport, “makes a possible link to MH370 even more suspicious”.

Others have sought to debunk and connection between Raza’s death and his search for the missing plane.

French-language news website Zinfos 974 has suggested the diplomat was a marked man long before meeting Gibson and speculated he was killed as payback for alleged involvement in the 2009 abduction of several residents of Indo-Pakistani descent known collectively as Karens.

Revenge of the Karens! No comment.

Life insurance scam
In March 2014, Malaysian police refused to rule out the possibility that the entire incident may have been a complicated insurance scam.

Motive. Great police work there gents. No.

Alien abduction

No.

A 9/11-style false-flag hijack mission
According to some theorists, Israeli agents planned to crash the Malaysia Airlines plane into a building, in a similar style to the September 11 2000 attacks, and then blame the atrocity on Iran.

Proponents point to the quick identification of two Iranian nationals travelling on forged passports and claims that CCTV images released of the pair had been doctored.

Doctored CCTV from the airport is a nice touch. "Proponents" are probably just unfamiliar with what old cameras recording on video tape that's been used thousands of times looks like. That's not "doctored" Sherlock, the word is "crap".

Iranians traveling on fake passports are always suspects. Open mind on this one.

The CIA
In a blog post, Malaysia’s former prime minister, Mahathir Mohamad, wrote that he believes the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) must know something about the plane’s fate.

Mahathir Mohamad. Not the most stable genius. No.

China and Edward Snowden
Reddit user DarkSpectre has a theory that links the disappearance of MH370 with Edward Snowden’s revelations about the extent of US surveillance.

The theory is based on the fact that the flight was carrying 20 employees of Freescale Semiconductor – a company that may have worked with the NSA to develop surveillance technology, according to Snowden’s documents.

DarkSpectre writes: “We have the American IBM Technical Storage Executive for Malaysia, a man working in mass storage aggregation for the company implicated by the Snowden papers for providing their services to assist the National Security Agency in surveilling the Chinese.

“And now this bunch of US chip guys working for a global leader in embedded processing solutions (embedded smart phone tech and defence contracting) all together... on a plane... and disappeared. Coincidence?”

Oh for fuck's sake. No.

Here's what I think. Very complicated.
First off, I believe that the mysterious extra 89 kilos of cargo ...

Let me stop you there. That is Edward Snowden's exact weight when wearing oxygen gear and warm clothing. Coincidence??

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Conspiracy theory: the Chinese government took MH-370.

All the radar traces after the unexpected "course change" would be some other plane of similar size which flew out over the South China Sea and around Vietnam, to meet up with MH-370. That plane (probably quite empty, flying by wire with the aid of a satellite or indeed on a pre-programmed route) is the one which flew over Malaysia and the Andaman Sea. Its range could be huge, with no passengers or cargo, it could go right past Antarctica and ditch in the southern Atlantic ocean.

Complicity of one or both pilots is required to explain the real MH-370's course change now. After meeting up with the spook plane, it turns East and around Vietnam, across the South China Sea, and lands in some PLA airport. Pilot complicity doesn't look likely (they were working joes though one was a bit too religious for my liking), but at least this theory doesn't require either of them to be bent on suicide. It would be a job for money.

Why would China do this? Maybe for the chip guys. Maybe they were planning to be the heroes who "found" the empty plane, in water too deep to recover anything, but then they lost it after all. Yeah, motive a bit of a weak point in this theory.

Just one problem. It requires that Inmarsat who don't do much besides relay low-bandwidth messages and monitor planes in flight, somehow fucked that up and thought a different plane other than MH-370 was flying that crazy course into the Indian Ocean. Of course they must be able to tell one plane from the other, so ... China bribed them to lie? A real conspiracy theorist wouldn't let this stop them, but I know my limits.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

In my opinion, aliens. Why? Cause as a loathsome godless communist, my "God of the gaps" is extraterrestrial life. Someone went missing and no one knows why? Aliens. A house fire happened for no apparent reason? Aliens. You feel kinda down? Aliens. Have a cough that won't go away? Aliens.

Aliens kidnapped flight MH370.

[Mathuvan Union]

Conspiracy theory: the Chinese government took MH-370.

All the radar traces after the unexpected "course change" would be some other plane of similar size which flew out over the South China Sea and around Vietnam, to meet up with MH-370. That plane (probably quite empty, flying by wire with the aid of a satellite or indeed on a pre-programmed route) is the one which flew over Malaysia and the Andaman Sea. Its range could be huge, with no passengers or cargo, it could go right past Antarctica and ditch in the southern Atlantic ocean.

Complicity of one or both pilots is required to explain the real MH-370's course change now. After meeting up with the spook plane, it turns East and around Vietnam, across the South China Sea, and lands in some PLA airport. Pilot complicity doesn't look likely (they were working joes though one was a bit too religious for my liking), but at least this theory doesn't require either of them to be bent on suicide. It would be a job for money.

Why would China do this? Maybe for the chip guys. Maybe they were planning to be the heroes who "found" the empty plane, in water too deep to recover anything, but then they lost it after all. Yeah, motive a bit of a weak point in this theory.

Just one problem. It requires that Inmarsat who don't do much besides relay low-bandwidth messages and monitor planes in flight, somehow fucked that up and thought a different plane other than MH-370 was flying that crazy course into the Indian Ocean. Of course they must be able to tell one plane from the other, so ... China bribed them to lie? A real conspiracy theorist wouldn't let this stop them, but I know my limits.

I've seen ones about North Korea doing that, but never China because the plane was bound to Beijing, so why would they make it all complex?