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Postby Mathuvan Union » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:02 am

Hello All. As of recent, I've been looking through lots of articles, images, and podcasts about the infamous MH370, or Malaysian Airlines Flight 370, a flight intended to fly from Kuala Lumpur International Airport to Beijing Capital International Airport. Ultimately, the plane ended up in the South Indian Ocean
More than six years have passed since Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 vanished yet the mystery of what happened to the lost plane remains unsolved.

The Boeing 777 departed from Kuala Lumpur with 239 people on board on 8 March 2014, but 40 minutes into what should have been a six-hour flight to Beijing, the plane diverted from its scheduled route and flew towards the southern Indian Ocean.

Earlier this year, on the sixth anniversary of the plane’s disappearance, families of the passengers on board called on authorities to revive search efforts.

“There are more questions than there are answers and that shouldn’t be the case after six years,” said Grace Nathan, a lawyer whose mother was on the flight.

While official investigations have failed, amateur sleuths and aviation specialists have offered a wide range of theories about the fate of Flight 370, from cyber hijacking to a CIA plot.

The parachute
One of the most imaginative stories doing the rounds is that one of the pilots, Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah, parachuted out of the plane to meet his secret lover waiting on a boat. The theory was written about by journalist Ean Higgins is his book The Hunt for MH370, published last year.

Higgins was apparently told that the pilot wanted to leave his wife but feared it would be difficult because of his Muslim faith and therefore designed an elaborate plan to escape his marriage.

According to the “wild” theory, he took fake IDs to assume a new life, depressurised the aircraft to comatose or kill the passengers before jumping out at 3,000ft and let the plane crash into the sea, reports the Daily Express. The newspaper notes that the story has been branded “sensational” and “far-fetched”.

Ghost plane
Another popular explanation also involves a sudden cabin depressurisation, but in this case it was thought to be an accident. Aviation expert Christine Negroni believes Captain Shah may have been on a break at the time, with co-pilot Fariq Abdul Hamid at the controls, meaning he was the only one left alive, flying the plane alone for hours before crashing.

“The sudden lack of oxygen would have killed all passengers and crew within 15 minutes; however, Hamid was insulated from its worst effects in the cockpit,” says the Daily Mirror.

Negroni claimed that while still alive, Hamid’s oxygen-starved brain would have led him to make a series of bizarre decisions, explaining the erratic route it took after losing contact, before finally ditching somewhere in the Indian Ocean.

Remote cyber hijacking
In his book Beneath Another Sky: A Global Journey into History, historian Norman Davies said technology designed to prevent another 9/11-style terror attack by allowing planes to be controlled remotely could have been exploited by cyber-spooks.

He suggests MH370, which was equipped with Boeing’s Honeywell Un-interruptible Autopilot on-board computer, could have been hacked and then reprogrammed and flown to a secret location.

He told The Sunday Times the plane may have been carrying sensitive material or personnel to Beijing. “There are reports that the cargo detailed in the manifest didn’t add up. I don’t know what it might have been carrying but it may have been carrying something somebody didn’t want to get to China,” he said.

Cracks in the plane
Perhaps the most prosaic, yet also most believable, theory as to why the plane went down does not centre around a conspiracy at all, but well-documented faults with the plane that could have led to it crashing.

Six months before MH370 disappeared, the US aviation watchdog warned airlines of a problem with cracks in Boeing 777s that could lead to a mid-air break up or a catastrophic drop in pressure.

The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) issued a final warning just two days before MH370 disappeared after one airline found a 15-inch crack in the fuselage of one of its planes.

However, the Daily Mirror says “Boeing said that the FAA alert did not apply to the missing jet because it did not have the same antenna as the rest of the Boeing 777s”, further fuelling other conspiracy theories.

The Cambodia theory
In 2018, a British video producer claimed to have spotted the aircraft's remains in Cambodia, using images from Google Maps which were dated for that year.

Ian Wilson claimed to have found the remains deep in the Cambodian jungle, producing images that show what appears to be a plane about 70m long. The actual plane is officially measured as being 63.7m long.

Wilson told the Daily Mirror: “Measuring the Google sighting, you're looking at around 69 metres, but there looks to be a gap between the tail and the back of the plane. It's just slightly bigger, but there's a gap that would probably account for that.”

Wilson said that he planned to visit the jungle in order to prove his theory.

The ‘Asian’ Bermuda Triangle
One of the most popular theories on social media is the idea that there could be a second Bermuda Triangle somewhere in the Indian Ocean, explaining MH370’s sudden disappearance.

A number of planes and boats have gone missing in an area of the North Atlantic known as the Bermuda Triangle over the years, including five Torpedo bombers that mysteriously vanished there in 1945.

In a bid to back-up this hypothesis, some people – including one Malaysian minister – claimed that the area where MH370 vanished is on the exact opposite side of the globe to the Bermuda Triangle. This is, of course, untrue.

The pilot wanted to ‘create the world’s greatest mystery’
Former Australian prime minister Tony Abbott says he believes flight MH370 was brought down intentionally by a pilot who wanted to “create the world’s greatest mystery”.

Speaking ahead of the third anniversary of the plane’s disappearance, he said: “I have always said the most plausible scenario was murder-suicide and if this guy wanted to create the world’s greatest mystery why wouldn’t he have piloted the thing to the very end and gone further south?”

Search teams considered murder-suicide early on in their investigations, “but there was little to no evidence uncovered to support it”, the Adelaide Advertiser says.

North Korea took MH370
It didn’t take long for the most secretive nation in the world to be dragged into the MH370 rumour mill. Shortly after the plane disappeared, several conspiracy theorists questioned whether North Korea might be the “missing link” in the mystery.

They pointed to South Korea’s claim that North Korea nearly took out a Chinese plane carrying 220 passengers on 5 March 2014, with Chinese Southern Airlines reportedly passing through the trajectory of a North Korean missile just seven minutes after it was fired. Three days later, MH370 disappeared.

While some think Pyongyang shot down the plane, others think it might have hijacked it and diverted it to North Korea. One anonymous aviation worker told eTurboNews Group that somebody out there wanted “a really, really huge plane” and that they were most likely after the Boeing 777’s technology.

Shot down
In March 2018, an Australian man made the sensational claim that he had found the wreckage of MH370 using Google Earth.

Peter McMahon, a mechanical engineer and amateur crash investigator, spent years combing the Indian Ocean on Google Earth looking for the plane. According to McMahon, the wreckage of the flight - which he claimed was riddled with bullet holes - was located just a few miles south of Round Island, which is governed by Mauritius, in an area of the ocean that had not been searched by crews, the Daily Mail reported.

McMahon “took his claims one step further”, the newspaper added, by saying he also believed US officials were refusing to search the area, and were withholding information from the public.

Malaysian Transport Minister Liow Tiong Lai rubbished McMahon’s claims, and said that the images he circulated had also been analysed by Civil Aviation Authority Malaysia (CAAM).

“CAAM has found McMahon’s claims to be baseless,” the New Straits Times reported. “Hence, the people should not be taken for a ride on the matter.”

A French former airline director who has been investigating the disappearance of flight MH370 has separately claimed that the missing plane was shot down by American fighter jets who feared that it had been hijacked and was about to be used to attack the US military base on the Indian Ocean atoll of Diego Garcia.

Marc Dugain, who once ran French airline Proteus, said that he had been warned not to look too closely into the case of MH370 by a British intelligence officer who told him that he was taking “risks”, according to France Inter.

The case of the murdered diplomat
Another conspiracy theory surrounds the death of a Malaysian diplomat who had spent years investigating the crash.

In August 2017, Zahid Raza, the honorary Malaysian consul in Madagascar, was shot dead in Madagascar’s capital Antananarivo in an apparent assassination. Amateur US flight investigator Blaine Gibson, who worked with Raza in tracking down debris from the plane, told Malay Mail that the diplomat “appeared to have been specifically targeted” and claimed that he has also received death threats.

Dr Victor Iannello, an original member of the independent group of specialists that helped Australian investigators try to pinpoint the plane’s crash site in the southern Indian Ocean, said the timing of Raza’s assassination just days before he was due to deliver several new pieces of debris to the Malaysian Ministry of Transport, “makes a possible link to MH370 even more suspicious”.

Others have sought to debunk and connection between Raza’s death and his search for the missing plane.

French-language news website Zinfos 974 has suggested the diplomat was a marked man long before meeting Gibson and speculated he was killed as payback for alleged involvement in the 2009 abduction of several residents of Indo-Pakistani descent known collectively as Karens.

Life insurance scam
In March 2014, Malaysian police refused to rule out the possibility that the entire incident may have been a complicated insurance scam.

“Maybe somebody on the flight has bought a huge sum of insurance, who wants family to gain from it or somebody who has owed somebody so much money, you know, we are looking at all possibilities,” said Tan Sri Khalid Abu Bakar Malaysia’s Inspector-General of Police.

At the time, authorities said they would consider all possible motives, no matter how unlikely they seemed, and would investigate all passengers and crew for any sign of unusual behaviour.

Alien abduction
Five per cent of Americans surveyed by Reason.com believe that the plane was abducted by aliens. Some bloggers have pointed to a number of UFO sightings in Malaysia as evidence for extraterrestrial intervention.

Alexandra Bruce, from Forbidden Knowledge TV, “proves” the involvement of aliens with her analysis of radar data. She claims that footage posted on YouTube shows the presence of something that “can only be termed a UFO” in the skies over Malaysia.

Of course, that means something that is “unidentified” rather than aliens.

A 9/11-style false-flag hijack mission
According to some theorists, Israeli agents planned to crash the Malaysia Airlines plane into a building, in a similar style to the September 11 2000 attacks, and then blame the atrocity on Iran.

Proponents point to the quick identification of two Iranian nationals travelling on forged passports and claims that CCTV images released of the pair had been doctored.

The CIA
In a blog post, Malaysia’s former prime minister, Mahathir Mohamad, wrote that he believes the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) must know something about the plane’s fate.

He also claimed that Boeing, the plane’s maker, and “certain” unnamed government agencies, are able to take control of commercial airliners such as the missing Boeing 777 remotely if necessary.

“Airplanes don’t just disappear,” he wrote on his blog. “Certainly not these days with all the powerful communication systems, radio and satellite tracking and filmless cameras which operate almost indefinitely and possess huge storage capacities... For some reason, the media will not print anything that involves Boeing or the CIA.”

China and Edward Snowden
Reddit user DarkSpectre has a theory that links the disappearance of MH370 with Edward Snowden’s revelations about the extent of US surveillance.

The theory is based on the fact that the flight was carrying 20 employees of Freescale Semiconductor – a company that may have worked with the NSA to develop surveillance technology, according to Snowden’s documents.

DarkSpectre writes: “We have the American IBM Technical Storage Executive for Malaysia, a man working in mass storage aggregation for the company implicated by the Snowden papers for providing their services to assist the National Security Agency in surveilling the Chinese.

“And now this bunch of US chip guys working for a global leader in embedded processing solutions (embedded smart phone tech and defence contracting) all together... on a plane... and disappeared. Coincidence?”

Here's what I think. Very complicated.
First off, I believe that the mysterious extra 89 kilos of cargo where secret US government information, leading the US to have to do something about it so it didn't fall into the hands of the Chinese. This forced the US government to hack the plane and redirect it to a secret military base in the Indian Ocean (coincidentally, one does exist there). Several tribesman of a island near (about 700 miles from the military base) the base claimed to have seen the plane, so close they could make out the doors, and bullet holes. The plane lands in the base, and everything including the passengers are captured, and to this day, it remains that way. There's a reason reporters haven't gotten access to it since then.

So NSG, what do you think? at the end of the day, it was a horrible incident, conspiracy theory or not, and please please please keep that in mind when you post what you think
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Postby -Ocelot- » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:22 am

Russian troops accidentally shot it down during the invasion of Ukraine.

https://www.rferl.org/a/when-russia-bac ... 56279.html

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Postby Mathuvan Union » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:25 am

-Ocelot- wrote:Russian troops accidentally shot it down during the invasion of Ukraine.

https://www.rferl.org/a/when-russia-bac ... 56279.html

Oh yes, I've heard that, it's more complex because it involved switching the planes.
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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:25 am

-Ocelot- wrote:Russian troops accidentally shot it down during the invasion of Ukraine.

https://www.rferl.org/a/when-russia-bac ... 56279.html

Wrong plane.
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:26 am

The New California Republic wrote:
-Ocelot- wrote:Russian troops accidentally shot it down during the invasion of Ukraine.

https://www.rferl.org/a/when-russia-bac ... 56279.html

Wrong plane.

no, it's part of the whole thing. That plane was/is MH370's original plane for the flight, that was switched for another plane.
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Postby Rusozak » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:30 am

Mathuvan Union wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Wrong plane.

no, it's part of the whole thing. That plane was/is MH370's original plane for the flight, that was switched for another plane.


The alien abduction story is more likely than that theory. The tin foil hat brigade must have worked really hard on that one.
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Postby Railroad Crossing » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:33 am

It obviously crashed in the ocean. Some debris was found.
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:34 am

Railroad Crossing wrote:It obviously crashed in the ocean. Some debris was found.

1) proof?
2) there is actually a bit of evidence that the debris found near Madagascar was actually faked by the government.
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:36 am

Rusozak wrote:
Mathuvan Union wrote:no, it's part of the whole thing. That plane was/is MH370's original plane for the flight, that was switched for another plane.


The alien abduction story is more likely than that theory. The tin foil hat brigade must have worked really hard on that one.

Yeah, I agree.
Unless you still think Men In Black is real.
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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:43 am

Mathuvan Union wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Wrong plane.

no, it's part of the whole thing. That plane was/is MH370's original plane for the flight, that was switched for another plane.

Not really, it is still a different plane.
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:45 am

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Mathuvan Union wrote:no, it's part of the whole thing. That plane was/is MH370's original plane for the flight, that was switched for another plane.

Not really, it is still a different plane.

No, that's actually the theory. the plane supposed to go on MH370's path was the one shot down in Ukraine.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:48 am

I dont think we will ever know with certainty what happened given the wreckage has yet to be located.

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Postby Mathuvan Union » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:49 am

San Lumen wrote:I dont think we will ever know with certainty what happened given the wreckage has yet to be located.

certain parts have, but those have been awfully suspicious and so therefore I doubt we will come to the bottom of this.
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Mathuvan Union wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I dont think we will ever know with certainty what happened given the wreckage has yet to be located.

certain parts have, but those have been awfully suspicious and so therefore I doubt we will come to the bottom of this.

suspicious how?

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Postby Echellia » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:50 am

It crashed into the Indian Ocean. Parts of the plane washed up on the shores of Reunion in 2015.
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Postby Railroad Crossing » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:51 am

people talk about this
lets also talk about Pan Am Flight 914
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Echellia wrote:It crashed into the Indian Ocean. Parts of the plane washed up on the shores of Reunion in 2015.

But we dont know why it did.

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Postby Echellia » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:53 am

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Echellia wrote:It crashed into the Indian Ocean. Parts of the plane washed up on the shores of Reunion in 2015.

But we dont know why it did.


And we will probably never know.
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:54 am

San Lumen wrote:
Mathuvan Union wrote:certain parts have, but those have been awfully suspicious and so therefore I doubt we will come to the bottom of this.

suspicious how?

the way the barnacles grew on it could only have been in a temperature a lot different to the surrounding temperatures, and it was done exactly the same on each side, somethin highly unlikely in the ocean.
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:55 am

Railroad Crossing wrote:people talk about this
lets also talk about Pan Am Flight 914

that is not the purpose of this thread.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:56 am

Mathuvan Union wrote:
San Lumen wrote:suspicious how?

the way the barnacles grew on it could only have been in a temperature a lot different to the surrounding temperatures, and it was done exactly the same on each side, somethin highly unlikely in the ocean.


What does that mean? It wasn't;t from the plane?

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Postby No State Here » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:57 am

777s have well documented cracks and fissures, I’m almost certain that’s the cause, certainly more plausible than Israeli agents wanting to crash it

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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:58 am

Mathuvan Union wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Not really, it is still a different plane.

No, that's actually the theory. the plane supposed to go on MH370's path was the one shot down in Ukraine.

I think any reasonable person knows that theory is a load of shit.
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:58 am

No State Here wrote:777s have well documented cracks and fissures, I’m almost certain that’s the cause, certainly more plausible than Israeli agents wanting to crash it

yeah, that's one of the ones I'm not willing to take. same with the parachute one, since DB Cooper, things called Cooper Vanes have been installed in all commercial aircraft, which disable you opening the doors of the plane when the gear is down.
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Postby No State Here » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:59 am

Mathuvan Union wrote:
No State Here wrote:777s have well documented cracks and fissures, I’m almost certain that’s the cause, certainly more plausible than Israeli agents wanting to crash it

yeah, that's one of the ones I'm not willing to take.

The cracks? They’re the only one of these theories in the realm of reality

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