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[DRAFT] Mistakes in Space

Postby Nooooooooooooooo » Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:41 am

[desc] Some of your spies have uncovered a story about one of @@NAME@@'s long-standing allies and trade partners, Nassland, that has plans to bomb the @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ Space Station within the next two months. It was presumed that they might send a missile towards the station. This story has caused pandemonium within the Capitol, with many people suggesting solutions.
[validity] Must have a space program

[option] "How dare they!" snarls your Defense Minister, @@RANDOMNAME_1@@, as @@HE_1@@ builds @@HIS_1@@ LUGU Model Tank. "I always knew that those people were just trying to get our trust, and nothing more! We must launch a full-scale attack as soon as possible! They threaten us, we threaten them!" @@HE_1@@ proceeds to mutter nuclear codes, as if @@HE_1@@ is trying to remember them.
[effect] foreign nations are bombed after one of their citizens tresspasses on @@DEMONYM@@ territory

[option] "Wait, not so fast," replies your Minister of Foreign Relations, @@RANDOMNAME_2@@, as @@HE_1@@ fills out a scratch-off map of the world. "We don't even know if the bombing is actually gonna happen. For all we know, Nassland might not even have nukes. So, I don't think we should jump to conclusions yet. Maybe we could send more spies over to see if there really is evidence. And if there isn't, then we can forget about the whole thing."
[effect] foreign documents are declared false if they don't have proper punctuation

[option] "Why don't we just let it go?" suggests your Minister of Whatever, @@RANDOMNAME_3@@, as fiddling with a toy rocket. "After all, it was just a space station. We already have documents and recordings of people's experiences up there, so it's not like we need any more. Besides, if we really cared about them, we'd put a restaurant up there. How about a McZargald's? A Bonker Kong? What about Wordy's?" @@HE_3@@ drones on and on, listing fast food restaurants as @@HE_3@@ goes.
[effect] rumor has it that the nation's Space Force has the lowest budget in the world
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Postby Honeydewistania » Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:58 am

I don’t really like the Among Us premise, it really complicates the whole issue. Space crime/murder/warfare can make some really interesting issues without referencing a game that’ll be irrelevant in about three months
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Postby Nooooooooooooooo » Sun Oct 18, 2020 5:34 pm

/bump; anyone else have feedback?
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Postby Federative States of America » Sun Oct 18, 2020 5:36 pm

Absolutely based, normally I avoid issues but I would definitely do this one lmao
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Postby Cretox State » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:53 am

RL references can be a nice touch when used judiciously, not when they derail the entire issue.

Since the recent rocket launch by the world-famous company Spook-X, it has been revealed that two of the astronauts onboard were impostors from Blackacre, and that they subsequently killed the crewmates onboard and detroyed the ship. Although it may have been two opinionated individuals, some are speculating that it was a secret Blackacrean government-sponsored terrorist attack.

So Blackacre committed an act of war and destroyed a civilian spacecraft. That’s your premise.

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Postby Sanghyeok » Mon Oct 19, 2020 8:00 am

Based, although I agree with above user that you should limit your references a bit.
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Postby Chan Island » Mon Oct 19, 2020 8:03 am

Somebody's played Among Us. :p
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Postby Noahs Second Country » Mon Oct 19, 2020 8:45 am

In all honesty I don't expect Among Us to be a timeless thing - remember that players in 10 years will get this issue and be very confused. A space mutiny could make a fun issue though, if it hasn't been done already.
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Postby Chan Island » Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:40 am

Noahs Second Country wrote:In all honesty I don't expect Among Us to be a timeless thing - remember that players in 10 years will get this issue and be very confused. A space mutiny could make a fun issue though, if it hasn't been done already.


Last year there was a draft about a space crime, but that never went through. It's 100% a gap we could fill up.
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Postby Cretox State » Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:16 am

Noahs Second Country wrote:In all honesty I don't expect Among Us to be a timeless thing - remember that players in 10 years will get this issue and be very confused. A space mutiny could make a fun issue though, if it hasn't been done already.

It won’t be timeless. I’d generally love to see more space issues.

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Postby Honeydewistania » Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:15 pm

Chan Island wrote:
Noahs Second Country wrote:In all honesty I don't expect Among Us to be a timeless thing - remember that players in 10 years will get this issue and be very confused. A space mutiny could make a fun issue though, if it hasn't been done already.


Last year there was a draft about a space crime, but that never went through. It's 100% a gap we could fill up.

Yes, but the references should be tones down. It’s quite cringey tbh. A few are fine, but not this level
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Postby Nooooooooooooooo » Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:32 pm

Alrighty, I have omitted most of the Among Us references, mostly the last names.
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Postby Free Ravensburg » Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:34 pm

Ngl Nooooooooooooooo kinda sus
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Postby Nooooooooooooooo » Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:34 pm

Free Ravensburg wrote:Ngl Nooooooooooooooo kinda sus

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Postby SherpDaWerp » Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:55 pm

Nooooooooooooooo wrote:Alrighty, I have omitted most of the Among Us references, mostly the last names.

If you want to vary it a bit you could add some Cluedo references ("why was there even a candlestick on a space station?!"), though beware of #459.

More than omit the references, though, the dilemma needs to feel more like it's its own dilemma. Space terrorism could be an incredibly interesting issue (that can tangentially reference Among Us or Cluedo or whatever) and this doesn't quite encapsulate that feeling. It leaned heavily on Among Us rather than making the issue as interesting as possible. I know that's a horribly subjective criteria to judge an issue by, but I think you'd be better off to re-write the issue from the ground up with a sprinkle of references, rather than just gut the issue by removing all the references currently there.

That way you'll end up with a good issue that references Among Us, rather than an issue that leans heavily on Among Us (and subsequently, an issue that feels a bit hollow without any Among Us references).

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Postby Nooooooooooooooo » Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:17 pm

SherpDaWerp wrote:
Nooooooooooooooo wrote:Alrighty, I have omitted most of the Among Us references, mostly the last names.

If you want to vary it a bit you could add some Cluedo references ("why was there even a candlestick on a space station?!"), though beware of #459.

More than omit the references, though, the dilemma needs to feel more like it's its own dilemma. Space terrorism could be an incredibly interesting issue (that can tangentially reference Among Us or Cluedo or whatever) and this doesn't quite encapsulate that feeling. It leaned heavily on Among Us rather than making the issue as interesting as possible. I know that's a horribly subjective criteria to judge an issue by, but I think you'd be better off to re-write the issue from the ground up with a sprinkle of references, rather than just gut the issue by removing all the references currently there.

That way you'll end up with a good issue that references Among Us, rather than an issue that leans heavily on Among Us (and subsequently, an issue that feels a bit hollow without any Among Us references).

Gotcha. I'll temporarily abandon the thread while working on a new version. I also think that the last name "Green" might work, since they are both characters in Among us and Cluedo.
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Postby SherpDaWerp » Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:20 pm

Nooooooooooooooo wrote:
SherpDaWerp wrote:If you want to vary it a bit you could add some Cluedo references ("why was there even a candlestick on a space station?!"), though beware of #459.

More than omit the references, though, the dilemma needs to feel more like it's its own dilemma. Space terrorism could be an incredibly interesting issue (that can tangentially reference Among Us or Cluedo or whatever) and this doesn't quite encapsulate that feeling. It leaned heavily on Among Us rather than making the issue as interesting as possible. I know that's a horribly subjective criteria to judge an issue by, but I think you'd be better off to re-write the issue from the ground up with a sprinkle of references, rather than just gut the issue by removing all the references currently there.

That way you'll end up with a good issue that references Among Us, rather than an issue that leans heavily on Among Us (and subsequently, an issue that feels a bit hollow without any Among Us references).

Gotcha. I'll temporarily abandon the thread while working on a new version. I also think that the last name "Green" might work, since they are both characters in Among us and Cluedo.

The premise definitely has promise, I think you'll be able to come up with something quite good.

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Postby Nooooooooooooooo » Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:20 pm

Updated with new premise. For anyone wondering, Nassland was the name of the author of this UN Resolution.
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Postby Fauxia » Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:48 am

I don’t see what The UN Taxation Ban has to do with the issue. If it’s not really a reference to the nation, I’d change the name of the NPC here.
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Postby Nooooooooooooooo » Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:01 am

Fauxia wrote:I don’t see what The UN Taxation Ban has to do with the issue. If it’s not really a reference to the nation, I’d change the name of the NPC here.

It really doesn't have anything to do with the issue, I just thought I should put an old-time reference in there.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Tue Nov 10, 2020 3:00 am

Ha? Do they have nukes or not? I'm pretty sure a spy who's capable of knowing whether or not agovernment is going to nuke something would have some solid evidence of them even having nukes in the first place
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Postby Nooooooooooooooo » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:00 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:Ha? Do they have nukes or not? I'm pretty sure a spy who's capable of knowing whether or not agovernment is going to nuke something would have some solid evidence of them even having nukes in the first place

Well, it could be a taunt. Like a fake government bill with the intent of tricking the spy.
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Postby Nooooooooooooooo » Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:21 am

/bump
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