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Is centrism dead?

Yes: You got two choices: Yes or yes?
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50%
No: No, no, no, no, no!
3
38%
Maybe: I don't know what to do without you!
1
13%
Other: 'Cause I Don't Care
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Total votes : 8

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Magical Medical League
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Centrist Discussion Thread

Postby Magical Medical League » Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:51 pm

Hello everyone.

There have been various leftist and right-wing discussion threads in the history of NS, but never any threads I can find related to those with politics that are mostly centre. Therefore, I wanted to make "Centrist Discussion Thread"

Some topics for discussion are included for your convenience:

Reasons to reject left and right wing politics
Centrist views on the economy
Centrist views on the social and cultural status
Centrist news and current events
Problems present in society, and centrist solutions
The possibility of compromise with left and right in centrism
Areas where you agree with the left and right


We can also discuss "what is centrism", "how can centrism survive", and "what policies on the left and right are generally supported by centrists?"

For the purpose of starting this thread, I will answer my own questions for you.
Firstly, I think centrism is not necessarily someone with centre-positions on everything, but instead someone who may have some leftist views on certain areas, and then right-wing areas in another. For example, someone who is culturally conservative but maybe favours more distributism. I think centrist can survive by becoming more flexible and continuing to take more ideas from the two sides.



Credit: This format inspired by New California Republic.
Conflict of Interest: My main nation is Sanghyeok. I am not centrist in political position, but I am still interested in hearing your thoughts.
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Postby Nuroblav » Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:59 pm

I think there have been centrist discussion threads, but they tend to die out.

What I have in mind with centrism is similar to yours but in a slightly different style. I've always pictured a more pragmatic approach - not adhering to a set ideology but taking whatever situation is best (I know quite a few here who would suit that style).
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Postby -Ocelot- » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:05 pm

Centrism is still the dominant ideology and will be fine because it encompasses actually doable systems, unlike the extremes. It will gain back its popularity, eventually.

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Postby Senkaku » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:07 pm

Given that centrism is the absence of conviction or ideology rather than any manifestation of it, and is only defined in relation to other things, I predict either a swift death for this thread or a rapid transition to other topics (say, the ideological debates that define wherever the bounds of centrism may currently lay in various countries)
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Sanghyeok
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Postby Sanghyeok » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:09 pm

-Ocelot- wrote:Centrism is still the dominant ideology and will be fine because it encompasses actually doable systems, unlike the extremes. It will gain back its popularity, eventually.


Are you a centrist?

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Postby -Ocelot- » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:09 pm

Sanghyeok wrote:
-Ocelot- wrote:Centrism is still the dominant ideology and will be fine because it encompasses actually doable systems, unlike the extremes. It will gain back its popularity, eventually.


Are you a centrist?


Yes.

Senkaku wrote:Given that centrism is the absence of conviction or ideology rather than any manifestation of it, and is only defined in relation to other things, I predict either a swift death for this thread or a rapid transition to other topics (say, the ideological debates that define wherever the bounds of centrism may currently lay in various countries)


Centrism is not the same as political apathy.
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Names Are Too Hard
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Postby Names Are Too Hard » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:10 pm

I thought centrism was illegal here.
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Postby -Ocelot- » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:11 pm

Names Are Too Hard wrote:I thought centrism was illegal here.


I imagine this thread will eventually be overrun by non-centrists, just like the Anti-Socialism thread has been overrun by socialists.

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Postby SD_Film Artists » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:12 pm

I think centrist parties are allowing themselves to be swallowed up by left-wing SJW types as they don't have the conviction to say 'no' to rampant appeasement. Fortunatly France is making steps in the right direction by talking openly against religious seperatism.

On a different talking point, centrism doesn't have to involve a 'golden mean fallacy'.

-Ocelot- wrote:Centrism is not the same as political apathy.


That's true, however I'd still be surprised if this thread lasts long.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:12 pm

-Ocelot- wrote:Centrism is still the dominant ideology and will be fine because it encompasses actually doable systems, unlike the extremes. It will gain back its popularity, eventually.


You mean the ideology that led up to the climate crisis and automation? That one will last?
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Postby Sanghyeok » Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:45 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
-Ocelot- wrote:Centrism is still the dominant ideology and will be fine because it encompasses actually doable systems, unlike the extremes. It will gain back its popularity, eventually.


You mean the ideology that led up to the climate crisis and automation? That one will last?


That was unrestrained neoliberalism though.

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我が祖国は、革命の赤旗を守る!世界の労働者万歳 統一戦線万歳 どんな時も その眩しさ 覚えていた
Chairwoman Oomiya in tea party with Azur Deutschland leaders Julienne and Sylvia | Chairwoman Oomiya to receive delegation from various realms in celebration of 861st Birthday Gala
Mini custard puddings
And fresh poured Darjeeling
Strawberry parfait so sweet and appealing,
Little soft plushies and baths in hot springs
These are a few of my favorite things


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Postby Untecna » Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:48 pm

Magical Medical League wrote:Hello everyone.

There have been various leftist and right-wing discussion threads in the history of NS, but never any threads I can find related to those with politics that are mostly centre. Therefore, I wanted to make "Centrist Discussion Thread"

Some topics for discussion are included for your convenience:

Reasons to reject left and right wing politics
Centrist views on the economy
Centrist views on the social and cultural status
Centrist news and current events
Problems present in society, and centrist solutions
The possibility of compromise with left and right in centrism
Areas where you agree with the left and right


We can also discuss "what is centrism", "how can centrism survive", and "what policies on the left and right are generally supported by centrists?"

For the purpose of starting this thread, I will answer my own questions for you.
Firstly, I think centrism is not necessarily someone with centre-positions on everything, but instead someone who may have some leftist views on certain areas, and then right-wing areas in another. For example, someone who is culturally conservative but maybe favours more distributism. I think centrist can survive by becoming more flexible and continuing to take more ideas from the two sides.



Credit: This format inspired by New California Republic.
Conflict of Interest: My main nation is Sanghyeok. I am not centrist in political position, but I am still interested in hearing your thoughts.

Therefore I am centrist. Good to know.
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Postby Kiu Ghesik » Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:59 pm

Untecna wrote:
Magical Medical League wrote:Hello everyone.

There have been various leftist and right-wing discussion threads in the history of NS, but never any threads I can find related to those with politics that are mostly centre. Therefore, I wanted to make "Centrist Discussion Thread"

Some topics for discussion are included for your convenience:

Reasons to reject left and right wing politics
Centrist views on the economy
Centrist views on the social and cultural status
Centrist news and current events
Problems present in society, and centrist solutions
The possibility of compromise with left and right in centrism
Areas where you agree with the left and right


We can also discuss "what is centrism", "how can centrism survive", and "what policies on the left and right are generally supported by centrists?"

For the purpose of starting this thread, I will answer my own questions for you.
Firstly, I think centrism is not necessarily someone with centre-positions on everything, but instead someone who may have some leftist views on certain areas, and then right-wing areas in another. For example, someone who is culturally conservative but maybe favours more distributism. I think centrist can survive by becoming more flexible and continuing to take more ideas from the two sides.



Credit: This format inspired by New California Republic.
Conflict of Interest: My main nation is Sanghyeok. I am not centrist in political position, but I am still interested in hearing your thoughts.

Therefore I am centrist. Good to know.

You're centrist by American standards, I suppose.

In more general terms, thank you, Sang, for providing us poor grillists with a home of our own.
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Sanghyeok
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Postby Sanghyeok » Sat Oct 17, 2020 5:05 pm

Untecna wrote:Therefore I am centrist. Good to know.



Please briefly describe your political stances. Which ones do you believe make you "centrist" and not "leftist" or "right-wing"?

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我が祖国は、革命の赤旗を守る!世界の労働者万歳 統一戦線万歳 どんな時も その眩しさ 覚えていた
Chairwoman Oomiya in tea party with Azur Deutschland leaders Julienne and Sylvia | Chairwoman Oomiya to receive delegation from various realms in celebration of 861st Birthday Gala
Mini custard puddings
And fresh poured Darjeeling
Strawberry parfait so sweet and appealing,
Little soft plushies and baths in hot springs
These are a few of my favorite things


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Postby North American Imperial State » Sat Oct 17, 2020 5:12 pm

Magical Medical League wrote:Hello everyone.

There have been various leftist and right-wing discussion threads in the history of NS, but never any threads I can find related to those with politics that are mostly centre. Therefore, I wanted to make "Centrist Discussion Thread"

Some topics for discussion are included for your convenience:

Reasons to reject left and right wing politics
Centrist views on the economy
Centrist views on the social and cultural status
Centrist news and current events
Problems present in society, and centrist solutions
The possibility of compromise with left and right in centrism
Areas where you agree with the left and right


We can also discuss "what is centrism", "how can centrism survive", and "what policies on the left and right are generally supported by centrists?"

For the purpose of starting this thread, I will answer my own questions for you.
Firstly, I think centrism is not necessarily someone with centre-positions on everything, but instead someone who may have some leftist views on certain areas, and then right-wing areas in another. For example, someone who is culturally conservative but maybe favours more distributism. I think centrist can survive by becoming more flexible and continuing to take more ideas from the two sides.



Credit: This format inspired by New California Republic.
Conflict of Interest: My main nation is Sanghyeok. I am not centrist in political position, but I am still interested in hearing your thoughts.

Ahh nice to have a centrist thread
-Ocelot- wrote:
Names Are Too Hard wrote:I thought centrism was illegal here.


I imagine this thread will eventually be overrun by non-centrists, just like the Anti-Socialism thread has been overrun by socialists.

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Postby Sanghyeok » Sat Oct 17, 2020 5:13 pm

Kiu Ghesik wrote:
Untecna wrote:Therefore I am centrist. Good to know.

You're centrist by American standards, I suppose.

In more general terms, thank you, Sang, for providing us poor grillists with a home of our own.


You're so centrist people thought you were either a boomer or from Kazakhstan.

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我が祖国は、革命の赤旗を守る!世界の労働者万歳 統一戦線万歳 どんな時も その眩しさ 覚えていた
Chairwoman Oomiya in tea party with Azur Deutschland leaders Julienne and Sylvia | Chairwoman Oomiya to receive delegation from various realms in celebration of 861st Birthday Gala
Mini custard puddings
And fresh poured Darjeeling
Strawberry parfait so sweet and appealing,
Little soft plushies and baths in hot springs
These are a few of my favorite things


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Postby Kiu Ghesik » Sat Oct 17, 2020 5:14 pm

Sanghyeok wrote:
Kiu Ghesik wrote:You're centrist by American standards, I suppose.

In more general terms, thank you, Sang, for providing us poor grillists with a home of our own.


You're so centrist people thought you were either a boomer or from Kazakhstan.

I'm glad to hear that, in all honesty.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Oct 17, 2020 5:50 pm

Magical Medical League wrote:Hello everyone.

There have been various leftist and right-wing discussion threads in the history of NS, but never any threads I can find related to those with politics that are mostly centre. Therefore, I wanted to make "Centrist Discussion Thread"

Some topics for discussion are included for your convenience:

Reasons to reject left and right wing politics
Centrist views on the economy
Centrist views on the social and cultural status
Centrist news and current events
Problems present in society, and centrist solutions
The possibility of compromise with left and right in centrism
Areas where you agree with the left and right


We can also discuss "what is centrism", "how can centrism survive", and "what policies on the left and right are generally supported by centrists?"

For the purpose of starting this thread, I will answer my own questions for you.
Firstly, I think centrism is not necessarily someone with centre-positions on everything, but instead someone who may have some leftist views on certain areas, and then right-wing areas in another. For example, someone who is culturally conservative but maybe favours more distributism. I think centrist can survive by becoming more flexible and continuing to take more ideas from the two sides.



Credit: This format inspired by New California Republic.
Conflict of Interest: My main nation is Sanghyeok. I am not centrist in political position, but I am still interested in hearing your thoughts.

We shut down the Right-Wing and Left-Wing Discussion Threads for reasons, it's only fair that we do the same to this one. Nothing personal, you understand.
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