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[DRAFT] Class in Ethics

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[DRAFT] Class in Ethics

Postby Jutsa » Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:17 am

So, I'm still not entirely sure this constitutes a national issue, but I figured I'd write it up anyway. :P
It's a bit morbid, and might be a bit too on-the-nose, but hoooopefully it works alright?
And, I admit, it wasn't particularly easy for me to come up with either a good humor or good effect lines for this one, so suggestions are all welcome.

Title: Class in Ethics
The Issue: The organization of People for the Ethical Treatment of Everything, branch: Mammalian Omni-Saving Services, has often been the spotlight of controversy, ranging from sexualized ads to bizarre protests at meat sections in supermarkets. However, perhaps their most notorious strategy is their universal shelter, which accepts animals of all kinds. Their report for this year has just been released, and has detailed that nearly the entirety of the animals it routinely takes in are euthanized.
Validity: Some civil rights; probably Adult

Option 1: "How could PETE do this!" cries Peter @@RANDOMLASTNAME@@, an ex-PETE and ardent animal rights activist in favor of freeing all animals from all captivity ever. "Their corrupt rulership has turned this peace-loving congregation into one of death and hatred! And they're bringing shame to animal rights everywhere. You need to ban 'shelters' like these outright! No more killing, no more overcrowding — let these animals be free at last!"
[effect] it is considered unethical to squash cockroaches

Option 2: "Lets not get all moral justice warrior, here," cautions Pete @@RANDOMLASTNAME@@ from the organization of Servicing Organic Development. "I'm not going to judge their methods; they technically are an organization free to do whatever they want, and are frankly helping with stray overpopulation. What's wrong is how they advertize themselves to the public. Officially reclassify them as a slaughterhouse, and fine them for any misleading or publicly inappropriate ads."
[effect] hospice clinics have been reclassified as death beds

Option 3: "See, even Pete knows what PETE does is out of mercy, for Pete sake," says @@RANDOMFIRSTNAME@@ Peterson, looking particularly petered out from a hike this morning. "We only euthanize animals to put them out of their misery, which you can hardly call inhumane. Of course, our noble cause can only get through to people if we advertize ourselves the way we do. It would certainly be much easier if you gave us a sizable grant and a public recommendation."
[effect] debates and public announcements are interrupted with sleezy ads sponsoring depopulation

Validity: Capitalist
Option 4a: "What I don't like is how inefficient this is," croaks a dangerous looking man wielding a meat cleaver and a T-Shirt reading "No, This is Patrick". "Think of all the money that could be made if we sell their organs to vets and leftover meat to consumers! Of course, you'd need to adjust a few consumer and selling laws to make it happen, but surely you'd be willing to do that in the name of free market capitalism?"
[effect] feral @@ANIMALPLURAL@@ are domesticated to meet market demand

Validity: Socialist
Option 4b: "What I don't like is how inefficient this is," croaks a dangerous looking man wielding a meat cleaver and a T-Shirt reading "No, This is Patrick". "Think of all the money that we could make if the government ran this organization! We could supply organs to vets and sell the leftover meat to consumers! With a few regulation laws adjusted and workers reallocated, we could be the envy of socialists everywhere!"
[effect] feral @@ANIMALPLURAL@@ are domesticated to meet societal demand


Title: Class in Ethics
The Issue: The organization of People for the Ethical Treatment of Everything, branch: Mammalian Omni-Saving Services, has often been the spotlight of controversy, ranging from sexualized ads to bizarre protests at meat markets. However, perhaps their most notorious strategy is their universal shelter, which accepts animals of all kinds, with their report for this year has detailed that nearly the entirety of the animals it routinely takes in are euthenized.
Validity: Some civil rights; probably Adult

Option 1: "How could PETE do this!" cries Peter @@RANDOMLASTNAME@@, an ex-PETE and ardent animal rights activist in favor of freeing all animals from all captivity ever. "Their corrupt rulership has turned this peace-loving congregation into one of death and hatred! And they're bringing shame to animal rights everywhere. You need to ban 'shelters' like these outright! No more killing, no more overcrowding — let these animals be free at last!"
[effect] many ethically treated beings are now homeless

Option 2: "Lets not get all moral justice warrior, here," cautions Pete @@RANDOMLASTNAME@@ from the organization of Servicing Organic Development "I'm not going to judge their methods; they technically are an organization free to do whatever they want, and are frankly helping with rogue animal overpopulation. What's wrong is how they advertize themselves to the public. Officially reclassify them as a slaughterhouse, and fine them for any misleading or publicly inappropriate ads."
[effect] hospice clinics have been relabeled slaughter houses

Option 3: "See, even Pete knows what PETE does is out of mercy, for Pete sake," says @@RANDOMFIRSTNAME@@ Peterson, looking particularly petered out from a hike this morning. "We only euthenize animals to put them out of their misery. Of course, our noble cause can only get through to people if we advertize ourselves the way we do. It would certainly be much easier if you gave us a sizable grant and a public recommendation."
[effect] debates and public announcements are interrupted with inappropriate ads sponsoring depopulation

Validity: Capitalist
Option 4a: "What I don't like is how inefficient this is," croaks a dangerous looking man wielding a meat cleaver and a T-Shirt reading "No, This is Patrick". "Think of all the money that could be made if we sell their organs to vets and leftover meat to consumers! Of course, you'd need to adjust a few consumer and selling laws to make it happen, but surely you'd be willing to do that in the name of free market capitalism?"
[effect] feral @@ANIMALPLURAL@@ are domesticated to meet market demand

Validity: Socialist
Option 4b: "What I don't like is how inefficient this is," croaks a dangerous looking man wielding a meat cleaver and a T-Shirt reading "No, This is Patrick". "Think of all the money that we could make if the government ran this organization! We could supply organs to vets and sell the leftover meat to consumers! With a few regulation laws adjusted and workers reallocated, we could be the envy of socialists everywhere!"
[effect] feral @@ANIMALPLURAL@@ are domesticated to meet societal demand
Last edited by Jutsa on Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:06 am, edited 7 times in total.
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Postby Jutsa » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:46 am

Adjusted it a little. Frankly, I still think it could be peppered with a bit more amusement,
but at least the description isn't a total grammatical fart.

Course, I'd kinda like some opinions as to whether or not this even seems like a big enough issue to be a national one. To me it feels like it'd work for NS,
but I wouldn't mind a second or third opinion.
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Postby Cretox State » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:15 pm

I think the premise could certainly function as a national issue. While the writing could definitely be cleaned up a bit here and there, I think the execution is quite good. My only real comment is that maybe you could make it more clear what the exact problem is: is PETE creating shelters with the express goal of killing animals, or is it just an unfortunate side effect of overcrowding? In which case, maybe the PETE speaker could ask for funding explicitly to build more shelters?

Also, a really minor thing:

Their corrupt rulership has turned this peace-loving congregation into one of death and hatred!


Maybe say "leadership" instead?

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Postby Jutsa » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:36 am

All good suggestions. You can also tell that I've played too much Nationstates @rulership xD

Glad you like it. :)
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Postby Jutsa » Sun Apr 18, 2021 3:00 pm

Right - forgot about this one. Bumping this, but I'll probably keep it up for a while.
I've got at least a few others that I said I'd work on and haven't yet, so I'll wait to bump those until I've actually done something. :lol:
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Postby Australian rePublic » Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:35 pm

They have a shelter for all types of animals? Does that include cockroaches? I think that would add a funny angle
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Postby Jutsa » Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:08 am

Alrighty, tweaked a couple of effect lines. Mainly I scrapped Option 1's; definitely, cockroaches, while kind-of not pertinent to the issue at large, work wonders for an effect line. Thank you, Aussie! :)

Option 4(a/b)'s effect line's fairly amusing in its context, but for the casual observer, it's just kind of there... so I'm open for suggestions. :P
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Fri May 07, 2021 4:36 pm

The Issue: The organization of People for the Ethical Treatment of Everything, branch: Mammalian Omni-Saving Services, has often been the spotlight of controversy, ranging from sexualized ads to bizarre protests at meat sections in supermarkets. However, perhaps their most notorious strategy is their universal shelter, which accepts animals of all kinds. Their report for this year has just been released, and has detailed that nearly the entirety of the animals it routinely takes in are euthanized.


This feels very unfocused to me, jumping from one topic to another. I'd suggest picking ONE thing that they're doing, and making the issue about that. PETA's euthanasia rate would definitely make for a good issue, so I'd make the whole issue about that.
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