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What nations would appear if your Nation broke up?

Postby Tranzoria » Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:13 pm

As the title suggests, what nations would appear if your nation broke apart? What would they be like? How would your land be divided? What would happen to the new nations?
Example is mine:
If I broke apart, my land would be divided by my territories and Colonies, such as West Lemons Territory and Northern Baja. Of course, we would probably be refounded by East Freedoms Territory, since they have our patriotic population.
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Marsoslavia
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Postby Marsoslavia » Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:32 pm

Poland, Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Czechia, Slovakia, Serbia and Slovenia.
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Kiu Ghesik
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Postby Kiu Ghesik » Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:20 pm

The great Clans would become independent again. Not much would change, in all honesty. They just wouldn't be constantly meeting with each other anymore.
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Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:21 pm

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Postby Empirical Switzerland » Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:23 pm

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Tbh, Probably the cantons would fight against each other. The big winners would probably be Schwyz, Shauffhausen, Geneva, and Zürich.
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Monsone
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Postby Monsone » Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:25 pm

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FNU
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Postby FNU » Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:25 pm

Zveztown, Beviosa, Reichflamme, and the Republic of Dave

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Zarnicovia nova
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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:29 pm

probably all the sub-regions would fight each other there are 456 so that's a lot of nations the big winners would probs be: long bay zarnicoa mill west phastastan isle and brazzila la east la monchu.
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Carrelie
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Postby Carrelie » Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:40 pm

There would be 12 new nations made.
These would be:
  • Dentricia
  • Sorechlandt
  • Achanor
  • Andlin
  • Iffrwf (Albeit in a personal union with Dentricia)
  • Anerbrawv
  • Arianos
  • Douria
  • Republic of the Barc
  • Northerland
  • Esria
  • Skerilaw
All but one of these, the Barc, would be monarchies.
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Andocara
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Postby Andocara » Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:43 pm

East Andocara would become independent. Andocara would still exist, just without East Andocara.

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Subhurbia
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Postby Subhurbia » Tue Oct 06, 2020 3:23 pm

It would have become 9 different nations.

* Aquaticus (formerly North Suhurbia)
* Pyran (formerly South Suhurbia)
* Ventus (formerly East Suhurbia)
* Terris Magnum (formerly West Suhurbia)
* Lutom (formerly Northwest Suhurbia)
* Fusil (formerly Southwest Suhurbia)
* Fulgar (formerly Southeast Suhurbia)
* Pruina (formerly Northeast Suhurbia)
* Nibbera (formerly Central Suhurbia)

Euraea and Dravonia are still technically part of Central Suhurbia in my actual canon, though they are recognized as their own regions with some autonomy, though not as much as the 8 other divisions. So Euraea and Dravonia wouldn't become independent per say, though they would get a larger degree of autonomy.
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Postby Celestial Provinces » Tue Oct 06, 2020 3:36 pm

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Postby Sleet Clans » Tue Oct 06, 2020 3:53 pm

The territories, including the Lunar and Martian colonies, would probably break off and form their own countries. The larger islands (Iwasodun, Norika, Paanipolu) would become nations, and it is likely that much of the smaller islands would be annexed by them. Iwasodun, being the island containing the (Former) capital Silca, would probably wield the most power as well as possess the location of the Imperial throne, provided the monarch and their family still lives. There could be anywhere from 9-40 new nations made with Sleetavia's theoretical breakup, depending on if individual provinces decide to break away or not.
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Postby Victorious Decepticons » Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:25 pm

With Leader Megatron and his military out of the picture, it would be a state of constant warfare until either someone else managed to take over the whole thing, or managed to deactivate everyone else. However, after the initial period of massive, empire-wide 100,000-front civil war with every 4-5 bot raid gang (of which we have tens of thousands) trying to delete every other one, you could expect to see these nations arise for a time:

ICC Territory: The Interplanetary Commerce Commission, our current biggest syndicate, is powerful enough to hold about 1/5 of Planet Cybertron if the Decepticon Military was out of the picture.

The Metal Lands of the IOPC: The exiled syndicate of the Interplanetary Oil Procurement Commission would immediately fly back from its current planet and claim about half of Cybertron. After many battles, it would likely be driven back to about 1/3 of it, which it could then firmly hold. This nation would then concentrate on expanding again, mostly into the next-listed territories. Eventually, it might manage to take over all of Cybertron.

Countless Tiny Regions: Most gangs could hold about a block or so. They would proceed to do so, only setting up alliances with neighbors if absolutely necessary. Warfare would be constant and ubiquitous in areas not controlled by a syndicate-sized force. This would continue until one of the previous two nations took their areas over. It would likely take hundreds of years for all of the autonomous regions to be subdued.

The Mines of Earth: The slave-holding mine owners of Earth would most likely band together under the leadership of Overseer, the head of our most notorious mine, and they and their overseers would - at least momentarily - keep control of Earth's ore-rich areas. Their biggest problem would be that those areas are spread apart due to the nature of metal and coal deposits, making it hard for all of Earth to be defended by just these mine owners and their paid staffs. The slaves are well-trained and would fight on their side, but really, what are puny humans going to do?! Any serious threats would come from space, and would easily be able to overwhelm the little biologicals despite their fanatical loyalty to us.

The Rest of Earth: High General Carjack is pretty much the only one who currently wants control of this, and already is officially in charge of it in a governor-like capacity. He would immediately declare himself its emperor, and since hardly anyone else gives a darn about the parts of Earth that are now nothing but trees and wild animals (almost all of the humans having been taken to the mines as slaves a couple of centuries ago), he would pretty much be unopposed. Anyone who did try to take over would soon find out why he was ranked as a High General, as he used his military skill to slaughter them with ease.

Notably, Carjack knows how to make biofuel-Energon in great quantity, and has the giant farms to make it happen. This would soon get him many trade lines as the wars on Cybertron wrecked much of its oil-based Energon-refining capacity. He would have to greatly increase this nation's defenses over time as Cybertronians realized that Earth basically produces free Energon all the time in the form of corn.

The Planet of Coltan:
This planet would probably just go back to governing itself, like it did before we took it over. However, now, its robotic population would be the rulers.

Other organic worlds are within the Empire, but most of them have no native populations nor anyone who really wants to be there. We only keep them as sources of materials. These planets would likely be abandoned as the overseers and soldiers on them returned to Cybertron to try to stake out claims of their own. Since we only produce sterile slaves at our cloning centers, their human populations would eventually die off if not sold to the Mines of Earth.
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Postby Miranda-22 » Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:48 pm

Cargonia, for one.
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Postby Voluntaryist Philippines » Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:53 pm

If the Federation collapsed, the archipelago would likely dissolve into hundreds of statelets. Some would have aspirations of reunification, either restoring the Republic or creating a new communist state, but it would almost certainly remain fractured for the foreseeable future.
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Postby Destyntine » Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:41 am

• Destynic Sweden (Sweden)
• Ny Norge (Norway and Svalbard)
• Úlfland (Iceland)
• Finska (Finland)
• Sørland (Germany, Denmark, and Poland)
• Luxembourg (Luxembourg)
• Østland (Lithuania, Latvia, Kaliningrad, and Estonia)
• Nederländerna (Netherlands)
• Grønland (Greenland)

Hundreds of space colonies would also be left to fend for themselves, a good number of them would die out without proper Destynic assistance but dozens would build into their own civilizations.
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Postby West Reveria » Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:51 am

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Postby Purpelia » Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:31 am

Well if Purpelia ever fell apart the only reasonable end result would be that one or more of the duchies were to just go their own way. This is not strictly speaking allowed by our constitution but isn't banned either. So theoretically it could happen. But like I don't imagine it ever happening on account of the fact it would be economic suicide.
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Postby Tahrik » Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:33 am

Cascadia, Oregon, Washington
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Postby Lillorainen » Wed Oct 07, 2020 7:23 am

The (unlikely) event, that the Federation ceases to exist without any substitution, would leave 14 independent states, which were the federal states of the Federation.
These would be:
  • Fyleria (Fylerian Free State).
  • Kongsöer.
  • Lysköping (Free City of Lysköping).
  • Marrania.
  • Nessovia.
  • Pontrath (Free City of Pontrath).
  • Rathenia.
  • Rigesöer.
  • Sigurdsland.
  • Storöer.
  • Terra Bianca.
  • Vedjading.
  • Visholm (Free State of Visholm).
Most certainly, these states, whose existence is even granted by the Federal Constitution in the event the Federation ceases to exist (ironically), would not remain independent nations forever. The pre-1981 status, with seven independent nations bound together by the Lillorainian Union (more or less successfully), two of which were federations, would be likely to become a thing again, as states will agree on joining each other, for example the eastern states of Storöer, Sigurdsland, Kongsöer, and Lysköping, or Rathenia, Thulia, Pontrath, and Nessovia in the west. Even Terra Bianca, Visholm, or Fyleria would be unlikely to sustain on their own.
Even much more likely, they would try to refound a pan-Lillorainian state; either a new federation, or some sort of confederacy, depending on the reasons the original Federation ceased to exist.
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Postby United cacti of Estaban » Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:26 am

Most likely would play out like this:
-Cereus, the southernmost state would probably just become their own country as many people within the state already want that.
-Its likely that ,Peyote, our northern state, would be enveloped into one of the countries above it as they already have close cultural ties.
-Saguaro, the western state, would most likely continue on as the UCE rather than form a brand new country.
-Schlumbergera, would most likely become some authoritarian military state due to the large and enthusiastic military population.
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Postby Republica Federal de Catalunya » Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:12 am

Probably: In Europe: Catalonia proper with or without the Shires of Valh d'Aran and Fenolheda (that in that case would became micro states as Saint Marino or Andorra, Andorra, it's independent, but We share with the French Republic the defense of Andorra and the Coprincipalty and the Balearics and Àlguer(which could be a Microstate as Monaco). Out of Europe... Southern Saint Martin, Bonaire, Sant Cristófol i Neus, Illes Verges Occidentals and Montserrat in the Americas. Then Mallol island in Africa and nearby reefs and shoals. Not de facto southern Micronesia as they belong to West Timor, it, can't keep them and would give them full independence.

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Postby Skyhooked » Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:55 am

In this case, there gonna be nations of five major clans and many lesser factions, city states, tribes and gangs.

Technocrats would have the capital, since their main compound is under Skyhooked city. New Sodom would become a city state, Orthodoxes would take over Kropotkinsk, Jamaica would come under control of Refreshment Cult, Cuba becomes an independent country again. New Providence becomes a pirate republic, North Korea... it probably merges with it's south neighbour.
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