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Submitted: Condemn CIB EMPIRE

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Submitted: Condemn CIB EMPIRE

Postby New Emperica » Mon May 03, 2010 4:20 pm

(Yes, I know this is the second third time I we tried this, but I have much better reasons for it now, etc.)


The World Assembly,

RECOGNIZING CIB EMPIRE as the founder of the region, Anti World Assembly,

NOTING, on numerous occasions, the tyrannical and overly authoritarian rule of The Dictatorship of CIB EMPIRE's leader over his region,

OBSERVING the disgraceful actions taken by the leader of The Dictatorship of CIB EMPIRE in the past, such as:

(1) Lashing out against his international counterparts unprovoked,

(2) Being so utterly paranoid that he has accused several of his own allies of being involved in conspiracies against his rule without any proper evidence,

(3) Being extremely hostile while communicating with other alliances and regions with little to no reason on each occasion,

(4) Threatening (and sometimes declaring) war on numerous nations and alliances/regions without any adequate evidence of their hostility towards him and then unexpectedly revoking his actions,

(5) Acting as if entire regions are responsible for the miniscule actions or words of a single nation in their midst and proceeding to disrupt the activities of this entire region,

(6) Clearing the airways every time anything that speaks against his rule is broadcasted,

(7) Alienating allied regions and nations with paranoid accusations,

BELIEVING these actions to be disgraceful and disrespectful for the reasons presented:

(1) Finding another nation's ideological beliefs to be objectionable and therefore questioning these beliefs is perfectly understandable, but directing immense hostility at the other nation and threatening to go to war with them over their ideological beliefs goes much too far and causes unnecessary damage to both nations involved.

(2) Excessive suspicion of one's allies can cause much political unrest within an alliance or region and can pointlessly damage the reputations and attitudes of all of the alliance/region's members.

(3) Hostility can cause international distress between not only the two hostile nations, but their allies as well.

(4) Declaring (or even threatening) war is not an action to be taken lightly, and a nation must be ready to be responsible for its actions.

(5) Holding a single nation responsible for the actions of its entire region and disrupting the whole region's activity is not fair to the other nations within the region, and causes uncalled-for and unwanted tension within completely innocent nations.

(6) Preventing the nations in one's own region from speaking freely about what they think of their region's actions or how the region is run is a violation of their right to speak their thoughts and feelings and is a hindrance, if not a complete prevention, of progression and collaboration within a community.

(7) If terminating an alliance, a nation must be prepared to logically explain its reasons for doing so.

NOTING the many (and often entirely unprovoked) hostile acts that this nation has made against other nations and regions, such as:

- Uncalled-for hostilities against the region/alliance of Espionage (now disbanded).

- Highly aggressvie behavior towards the nation, [nation=short]The Sentenial Empire[/nation], due the nation leaving CIB's region, and because of this clash, towards all of TSE's region, The Sentenial Empire.

- Extremely hostile and unprovoked behavior against Nations United due to their WA support.

- Threatening the region of Corporate for its WA Support and because of a debate with the region's founder over the Anti World Assembly.

HEREBY CONDEMNS CIB EMPIRE.

Co-authored by [nation=short]A mean old man[/nation].


I'm open to any constructive criticism and suggestions the could improve upon what I've already written.
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Postby The Sentenial Empire » Mon May 03, 2010 7:18 pm

He called me a traitor
He banned me after me, Seperates, and The Corporation set up a provisionary government when he went "Ex-nation" on us
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He fights the WA without effect making the entire philosophy look stupid (i believe in less WA controll)

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Postby Pythria » Mon May 03, 2010 7:28 pm

I think the WA is a little too big as well (it would be nice if it was just the SC, no GA). However, he is not going about his agenda very well. I will support this condemnation.
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Postby A mean old man » Mon May 03, 2010 7:31 pm

I can certainly understand the reasoning for this condemnation. CIB has been only an incredibly hostile entity since he first showed up in the NationStates world many months ago.

The condemnation is looking good, however a few small edits could certainly be made... I'm strapped for time at the moment, but I'll get back to you with my ideas on it as soon as I can.

I support this effort.
A: SC#16 - Repeal "Liberate The Security Council"
A: SC#26 - Commend The Joint Systems Alliance
A: SC#30 - Commend 10000 Islands
A: SC#37 - Condemn NAZI EUROPE
A: SC#38 - Repeal "Condemn NAZI EUROPE"
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A: SC#62 - Repeal "Condemn Swarmlandia"
C: SC#63 - Commend Ballotonia
A: SC#65 - Condemn Punk Reloaded
C: GA#163 - Repeal "Law of the Sea"
A: SC#72 - Repeal "Commend Mikeswill"
C: SC#74 - Condemn Lone Wolves United
C: SC#76 - Repeal "Condemn Thatcherton"
A: SC#81 - Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta"
C: SC#83 - Condemn Automagfreek
C: SC#84 - Repeal "Liberate Islam"
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Postby Grandais » Mon May 03, 2010 7:35 pm

Having never heard of this nation, could I have some links to his posts so I can see for myself?
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Postby Pythria » Mon May 03, 2010 7:38 pm

Grandais wrote:Having never heard of this nation, could I have some links to his posts so I can see for myself?

These.
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Postby The Sentenial Empire » Mon May 03, 2010 8:11 pm

OOO the previous condemnation
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Postby New Emperica » Tue May 04, 2010 4:29 pm

I've added Sentenial's suggestion (the hostilites). But I really need a word for it...

ALSO LISTING the hostilities that this nation has <I need a word here. Any suggestions?>
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Postby A mean old man » Tue May 04, 2010 4:33 pm

New Emperica wrote:I've added Sentenial's suggestion (the hostilites). But I really need a word for it...

ALSO LISTING the hostilities that this nation has <I need a word here. Any suggestions?>


The "ALSO LISTING" looks a bit funny. Might want to drop it. Might also want to change the wording of the line around to something easier to write.

This is my idea. You can use it and edit it as you like.

"NOTING the many (and often unnecessary and/or entirely unprovoked) hostile acts that this nation has made against other nations and regions, such as:

(list)"
A: SC#16 - Repeal "Liberate The Security Council"
A: SC#26 - Commend The Joint Systems Alliance
A: SC#30 - Commend 10000 Islands
A: SC#37 - Condemn NAZI EUROPE
A: SC#38 - Repeal "Condemn NAZI EUROPE"
A: GA#149 - On Expiration Dates
C: SC#58 - Repeal "Commend Sedgistan"
A: SC#62 - Repeal "Condemn Swarmlandia"
C: SC#63 - Commend Ballotonia
A: SC#65 - Condemn Punk Reloaded
C: GA#163 - Repeal "Law of the Sea"
A: SC#72 - Repeal "Commend Mikeswill"
C: SC#74 - Condemn Lone Wolves United
C: SC#76 - Repeal "Condemn Thatcherton"
A: SC#81 - Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta"
C: SC#83 - Condemn Automagfreek
C: SC#84 - Repeal "Liberate Islam"
C: SC#111 - Commend Krulltopia ← please forget

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Postby Sanctaria » Tue May 04, 2010 4:39 pm

It looks rather messy. I'm a traditionalist when it comes to these sort of things, and I'd rather see something along the lines of:

"HAVING noted etc etc"

"RECOGNISING some of the disgraceful acts to include etc etc"

Other than that, I commend the spirit of the proposal and, having done some background checks, support it providing you tidy it up a bit.

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Postby New Emperica » Tue May 04, 2010 5:18 pm

Sanctaria wrote:It looks rather messy. I'm a traditionalist when it comes to these sort of things, and I'd rather see something along the lines of:

"HAVING noted etc etc"

"RECOGNISING some of the disgraceful acts to include etc etc"

Other than that, I commend the spirit of the proposal and, having done some background checks, support it providing you tidy it up a bit.

Yours etc.,



I just edited it a bit, but what do you mean by 'tidy it up'? I'm a bit cloudy there.
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Postby CIB EMPIRE » Tue May 04, 2010 7:46 pm

Uncalled for hostilities against the region/alliance of [region=Espionage] (now disbanded).------- We crushed your puppet filled region ;)



- Extremely hostile and unprovoked behavior against [region=Nations United] due to their WA support.---- also because they had spys in our region and threatoned to destroy us.
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The AWA is dedicated to bringing down the World Assembly. Nations need the WA's permission to invading a region because only WA nations may invade!The WA is able to condemn non members but not vice versa. Members are forced to comply with the many unjust laws the WA imposes onto them. No one truely runs their own nation, you serve as a mere puppet of the WA unless you decide to do something about it! Others say it cant be done but why do so many try and stop us? The answer is simple, the WA can be brought down if enough nations band together and stand against it! The AWA is commited to uniteing all regions that are against the WA because a unified force will be unstopable! So join us and become part of the biggest thing that this game has ever seen!

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Postby A mean old man » Tue May 04, 2010 8:05 pm

And your reasoning behind threatening my region, Corporate, was what exactly?
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A: SC#16 - Repeal "Liberate The Security Council"
A: SC#26 - Commend The Joint Systems Alliance
A: SC#30 - Commend 10000 Islands
A: SC#37 - Condemn NAZI EUROPE
A: SC#38 - Repeal "Condemn NAZI EUROPE"
A: GA#149 - On Expiration Dates
C: SC#58 - Repeal "Commend Sedgistan"
A: SC#62 - Repeal "Condemn Swarmlandia"
C: SC#63 - Commend Ballotonia
A: SC#65 - Condemn Punk Reloaded
C: GA#163 - Repeal "Law of the Sea"
A: SC#72 - Repeal "Commend Mikeswill"
C: SC#74 - Condemn Lone Wolves United
C: SC#76 - Repeal "Condemn Thatcherton"
A: SC#81 - Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta"
C: SC#83 - Condemn Automagfreek
C: SC#84 - Repeal "Liberate Islam"
C: SC#111 - Commend Krulltopia ← please forget

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Postby CIB EMPIRE » Tue May 04, 2010 8:11 pm

A mean old man wrote:And your reasoning behind threatening my region, Corporate, was what exactly?

you were behind the whole Condemn/commend the AWA thing (or a big part of the debates)
Also you kept sending your damn diplos into my region and i had to keep banning them, i considered that a hostility against my region, not to mention the fact that your Region is Pro WA
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The AWA is dedicated to bringing down the World Assembly. Nations need the WA's permission to invading a region because only WA nations may invade!The WA is able to condemn non members but not vice versa. Members are forced to comply with the many unjust laws the WA imposes onto them. No one truely runs their own nation, you serve as a mere puppet of the WA unless you decide to do something about it! Others say it cant be done but why do so many try and stop us? The answer is simple, the WA can be brought down if enough nations band together and stand against it! The AWA is commited to uniteing all regions that are against the WA because a unified force will be unstopable! So join us and become part of the biggest thing that this game has ever seen!

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Postby A mean old man » Tue May 04, 2010 8:20 pm

CIB EMPIRE wrote:
A mean old man wrote:And your reasoning behind threatening my region, Corporate, was what exactly?

you were behind the whole Condemn/commend the AWA thing (or a big part of the debates)


Ha ha! What?

Care to go back and read my posts? I hardly posted in the thread there unless I was questioning you or your region's effectiveness, and stated firmly my belief that the resolution was silly and problematic and shouldn't be passed.

I think someone needs to improve their grip on reality and drop the paranoia.

Also you kept sending your damn diplos into my region and i had to keep banning them, i considered that a hostility against my region, not to mention the fact that your Region is Pro WA


I sent those diplo nations in after you decided it would be clever to make your silly threats against my region to have a talk - of course, from what I've witnessed of you, you're not big on civilized conversation.
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A: SC#16 - Repeal "Liberate The Security Council"
A: SC#26 - Commend The Joint Systems Alliance
A: SC#30 - Commend 10000 Islands
A: SC#37 - Condemn NAZI EUROPE
A: SC#38 - Repeal "Condemn NAZI EUROPE"
A: GA#149 - On Expiration Dates
C: SC#58 - Repeal "Commend Sedgistan"
A: SC#62 - Repeal "Condemn Swarmlandia"
C: SC#63 - Commend Ballotonia
A: SC#65 - Condemn Punk Reloaded
C: GA#163 - Repeal "Law of the Sea"
A: SC#72 - Repeal "Commend Mikeswill"
C: SC#74 - Condemn Lone Wolves United
C: SC#76 - Repeal "Condemn Thatcherton"
A: SC#81 - Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta"
C: SC#83 - Condemn Automagfreek
C: SC#84 - Repeal "Liberate Islam"
C: SC#111 - Commend Krulltopia ← please forget

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Postby The Corparation » Tue May 04, 2010 8:23 pm

I personaly think this is a bad Idea, he'll just use it to draw attention to himself.
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Postby Pythria » Tue May 04, 2010 8:30 pm

Pythria wrote:I think the WA is a little too big as well (it would be nice if it was just the SC, no GA). However, he is not going about his agenda very well. I will support this condemnation.

I change my mind. CIB is just a paranoid and ineffectual dissident and does not deserve a badge of shame.
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Postby A mean old man » Tue May 04, 2010 8:39 pm

...oh, and another thing, CIB - you're just digging a deeper hole for yourself by attempting to justify your threats against other nations and regions by saying that these enemies of yours were "pro-WA."

I mean, come on - it's the WA that'd be condemning you, and you're trying to defend yourself from that and from the accusations of WA members by saying that you threatened these people because they were "pro-WA" and you hate the WA?

Need I even explain the utter stupidity of this?
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A: SC#16 - Repeal "Liberate The Security Council"
A: SC#26 - Commend The Joint Systems Alliance
A: SC#30 - Commend 10000 Islands
A: SC#37 - Condemn NAZI EUROPE
A: SC#38 - Repeal "Condemn NAZI EUROPE"
A: GA#149 - On Expiration Dates
C: SC#58 - Repeal "Commend Sedgistan"
A: SC#62 - Repeal "Condemn Swarmlandia"
C: SC#63 - Commend Ballotonia
A: SC#65 - Condemn Punk Reloaded
C: GA#163 - Repeal "Law of the Sea"
A: SC#72 - Repeal "Commend Mikeswill"
C: SC#74 - Condemn Lone Wolves United
C: SC#76 - Repeal "Condemn Thatcherton"
A: SC#81 - Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta"
C: SC#83 - Condemn Automagfreek
C: SC#84 - Repeal "Liberate Islam"
C: SC#111 - Commend Krulltopia ← please forget

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Postby Sedgistan » Wed May 05, 2010 1:15 am

CIB EMPIRE wrote:
A mean old man wrote:And your reasoning behind threatening my region, Corporate, was what exactly?

you were behind the whole Condemn/commend the AWA thing (or a big part of the debates)


That was me...

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Postby Grays Harbor » Wed May 05, 2010 1:27 am

We can support this condemnation.
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[DRAFT] Condemn CIB EMPIRE

Postby Ninthinia » Wed May 05, 2010 1:28 am

We, as a nation, support this resolution as a whole, although it is just a draft.

Just stating the blatant obvious. ;)
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Postby CIB EMPIRE » Wed May 05, 2010 4:14 am

Sedgistan wrote:
CIB EMPIRE wrote:
A mean old man wrote:And your reasoning behind threatening my region, Corporate, was what exactly?

you were behind the whole Condemn/commend the AWA thing (or a big part of the debates)


That was me...

he was a part then,i remember but sorry for placeing the blame on you old man.
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Postby Ninthinia » Wed May 05, 2010 5:05 am

CIB EMPIRE wrote:sorry for placeing the blame on you old man.


Do not refer to people as "old man". The category "old" does not apply to everyone on NationStates. I think no one on NS applies to the category at all, actually.
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Sure ...

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Canadai wrote:
(is 'trollery' a word?).

I don't think so, but I assume that a moderator has the power to alter the universe and make it so.


New East Ireland wrote:I doubt that the grand army of three people in Guy Fawkes masks will be totally effective.


Greatest thread in Moderation: viewtopic.php?f=16&t=70648

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Postby Hindopia » Wed May 05, 2010 6:14 am

Ninthinia wrote:
CIB EMPIRE wrote:sorry for placeing the blame on you old man.


Do not refer to people as "old man". The category "old" does not apply to everyone on NationStates. I think no one on NS applies to the category at all, actually.

OOC: That's his name (A mean old man).

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Postby Sanctaria » Wed May 05, 2010 6:20 am

New Emperica wrote:
Sanctaria wrote:It looks rather messy. I'm a traditionalist when it comes to these sort of things, and I'd rather see something along the lines of:

"HAVING noted etc etc"

"RECOGNISING some of the disgraceful acts to include etc etc"

Other than that, I commend the spirit of the proposal and, having done some background checks, support it providing you tidy it up a bit.

Yours etc.,



I just edited it a bit, but what do you mean by 'tidy it up'? I'm a bit cloudy there.


By tidy up I meant make it look a tad more readable, you know, pleasing to the eye.

I echo the sentiments above. I'll support it, but there needs to be a few improvements. I'll take a look at it in more detail and give you a few of my suggestions/edits shortly.

Yours.,
Divine Federation of Sanctaria

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Author of:
GA#109 GA#133 GA#176 GA#201 GA#222 GA#297
GA#590 (Co)
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