Managing embassies from outside of a region

[The Cosmic Mainframe]

Of the ROs in my puppet storage region Bytes, four of them currently reside in other regions - this nation, NPO Supercomputer 00, Tycho Monolith, and A Long Time Ago In A Galaxy Far Far Away. From those nations I can set up polls, use communications authority, edit the WFE and flag, and even ban/eject nations. However, I can't request embassies with other regions, despite being able to close or promote embassies. When I go to the Region Control page, there is a "New Embassy" button that opens a prompt to visit a region's Admin page, and then on the admin page there is no way to request embassies.

It would be rather convenient to be able to request embassies as an absent RO, though I suspect this might be intentional or impossible due to technical limitations.

[The Unified Missourtama States]

Are you saying it is possible to make a non-native nation a regional officer?
I didn't know that, but it seems wrong...

[The Cosmic Mainframe]

Are you saying it is possible to make a non-native nation a regional officer?
I didn't know that, but it seems wrong...

You can move nations to a region and when they leave they remain regional officers. All of the nations I listed were in Bytes at one point - in the case of this nation and Tycho Monolith, they were moved there temporarily so I could give them RO status.

[The Cosmic Mainframe]

Well, it's been over a week and no official response, so I guess I'll give this a bump.

To be clear, what I'm asking is: is it intentional that absent ROs can't request embassies, and if not can that be changed?

[Liberty]

Well, it's been over a week and no official response, so I guess I'll give this a bump.

To be clear, what I'm asking is: is it intentional that absent ROs can't request embassies, and if not can that be changed?

If you are an RO of many regions, which region’s embassy request button should show up? Or should all of them?

I’m guessing that is why.

[Refuge Isle]

Of the ROs in my puppet storage region Bytes, four of them currently reside in other regions - this nation, NPO Supercomputer 00, Tycho Monolith, and A Long Time Ago In A Galaxy Far Far Away. From those nations I can set up polls, use communications authority, edit the WFE and flag, and even ban/eject nations. However, I can't request embassies with other regions, despite being able to close or promote embassies. When I go to the Region Control page, there is a "New Embassy" button that opens a prompt to visit a region's Admin page, and then on the admin page there is no way to request embassies.

It would be rather convenient to be able to request embassies as an absent RO, though I suspect this might be intentional or impossible due to technical limitations.

I would recommend getting whatever region you are interested in to send an embassy request to your puppet storage region. You can accept those requests even if your puppets are not in the region, just not make any new ones.

[The Cosmic Mainframe]

Of the ROs in my puppet storage region Bytes, four of them currently reside in other regions - this nation, NPO Supercomputer 00, Tycho Monolith, and A Long Time Ago In A Galaxy Far Far Away. From those nations I can set up polls, use communications authority, edit the WFE and flag, and even ban/eject nations. However, I can't request embassies with other regions, despite being able to close or promote embassies. When I go to the Region Control page, there is a "New Embassy" button that opens a prompt to visit a region's Admin page, and then on the admin page there is no way to request embassies.

It would be rather convenient to be able to request embassies as an absent RO, though I suspect this might be intentional or impossible due to technical limitations.

I would recommend getting whatever region you are interested in to send an embassy request to your puppet storage region. You can accept those requests even if your puppets are not in the region, just not make any new ones.

This is really just a problem of convenience to me. If I want to request embassies I can just log in to my founder account 0x00 and request from there, and that is more convenient than asking other ROs to send requests to me. But most convenient would be to request from this nation.

Well, it's been over a week and no official response, so I guess I'll give this a bump.

To be clear, what I'm asking is: is it intentional that absent ROs can't request embassies, and if not can that be changed?

If you are an RO of many regions, which region’s embassy request button should show up? Or should all of them?

I’m guessing that is why.

In my case, since I am RO in only one region, that shouldn't be a problem. And if it's a problem for embassies it should be a problem for Border Control, but I can easily ban/eject nations as an absent RO.

[Liberty]

In my case, since I am RO in only one region, that shouldn't be a problem. And if it's a problem for embassies it should be a problem for Border Control, but I can easily ban/eject nations as an absent RO.

In your case. And you can’t eject a nation from any region, only from the region he’s in. So that is not an example of a page needing one button for each region a nation is an RO in. That’s more similar to being able to accept embassy requests while outside the region.

By the way, I’m not saying it wouldn’t be nice, I have had the same thing happen to me. I’m just not sure how it should look.

[SherpDaWerp]

Through some clever website manipulation, I just (EDIT: well, 2 hours ago...) requested embassies with Bytes from this nation (residing in Glass Gallows) for my other puppet storage region - Imperial Stronghold. You can see the request here and you can see that I haven't left Glass Gallows at all in the last few months.

This suggests that it's extremely possible to implement this as basic functionality of the NS site.

EDIT: I've mocked up a quick userscript that provides this functionality in a rudimentary manner. Because I don't have easy access to a list of all regions where the user has Embassies authority, I instead ask the user what to change the region to and then change it.

I've made it available here. It's quite rudimentary but I've tested it successfully, so if you find any bugs lemme know.

EDIT 2: NS handles the problems if you put in a non-existent region or a region you don't have embassy authority in, which is nice.

[Racoda]

Through some clever website manipulation, I just (EDIT: well, 2 hours ago...) requested embassies with Bytes from this nation (residing in Glass Gallows) for my other puppet storage region - Imperial Stronghold. You can see the request here and you can see that I haven't left Glass Gallows at all in the last few months.

This suggests that it's extremely possible to implement this as basic functionality of the NS site.

EDIT: I've mocked up a quick userscript that provides this functionality in a rudimentary manner. Because I don't have easy access to a list of all regions where the user has Embassies authority, I instead ask the user what to change the region to and then change it.

I've made it available here. It's quite rudimentary but I've tested it successfully, so if you find any bugs lemme know.

EDIT 2: NS handles the problems if you put in a non-existent region or a region you don't have embassy authority in, which is nice.

Note that your script doesn't work unless the nation you're using has embassy RO permissions in the region in which it resides, otherwise the "request embassy" form just doesn't appear (but I found another, similar way to do it).

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embassy button adder.user.js:29:52: Uncaught TypeError: emb_form is null

If you don't have RO permissions in your current region, you won't be able to send embassy requests through existing NS forms. It's also not as simple as just adding a form on the destination region either, because an embassy request requires a security check. The code used for the check doesn't appear on other region's pages unless you're an embassy RO in your current region.
It does however appear on the `region_control` page (the admin page of the region where you're RO'd).
So I just added the form there! Also saves you the trouble of going to the destination region's page

6 minutes ago: Racoda proposed constructing embassies between RSCA and Big Farma.

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// ==UserScript==
// @name         Remote Embassies
// @namespace    dithpri.RCES
// @version      0.1
// @description  Go to the regional admin page of the region in which you have embassy RO permissions. You'll be able to request embassies, even if you're outside of the region.
// @author       dithpri
// @match        https://www.nationstates.net/*page=region_control/region=*
// @grant        none
// ==/UserScript==

(function() {
    'use strict';

    document.getElementById("OpenEmbassyBox").insertAdjacentHTML("beforebegin",
`
<form action="${window.location.pathname}" method="post">
<p>
  <label>Request embassies with:
    <input type="text" name="embassyregion" placeholder="Destination region...">
  </label>
  <input type="hidden" name="chk" value="${document.querySelector('input[name="chk"]').value}">
  <button type="submit" name="embassyrequest" value="1" class="button icon approve primary big">Request embassies</button>
</p>
`);
})();


Edit: words
Edit2: removed hardcoded path *facepalm*

[The Cosmic Mainframe]

Through some clever website manipulation, I just (EDIT: well, 2 hours ago...) requested embassies with Bytes from this nation (residing in Glass Gallows) for my other puppet storage region - Imperial Stronghold. You can see the request here and you can see that I haven't left Glass Gallows at all in the last few months.

This suggests that it's extremely possible to implement this as basic functionality of the NS site.

EDIT: I've mocked up a quick userscript that provides this functionality in a rudimentary manner. Because I don't have easy access to a list of all regions where the user has Embassies authority, I instead ask the user what to change the region to and then change it.

I've made it available here. It's quite rudimentary but I've tested it successfully, so if you find any bugs lemme know.

EDIT 2: NS handles the problems if you put in a non-existent region or a region you don't have embassy authority in, which is nice.

Note that your script doesn't work unless the nation you're using has embassy RO permissions in the region in which it resides, otherwise the "request embassy" form just doesn't appear (but I found another, similar way to do it).

Code: Select all

embassy button adder.user.js:29:52: Uncaught TypeError: emb_form is null

If you don't have RO permissions in your current region, you won't be able to send embassy requests through existing NS forms. It's also not as simple as just adding a form on the destination region either, because an embassy request requires a security check. The code used for the check doesn't appear on other region's pages unless you're an embassy RO in your current region.
It does however appear on the `region_control` page (the admin page of the region where you're RO'd).
So I just added the form there! Also saves you the trouble of going to the destination region's page

6 minutes ago: Racoda proposed constructing embassies between RSCA and Big Farma.

Code: Select all

// ==UserScript==
// @name         Remote Embassies
// @namespace    dithpri.RCES
// @version      0.1
// @description  Go to the regional admin page of the region in which you have embassy RO permissions. You'll be able to request embassies, even if you're outside of the region.
// @author       dithpri
// @match        https://www.nationstates.net/*page=region_control/region=*
// @grant        none
// ==/UserScript==

(function() {
    'use strict';

    document.getElementById("OpenEmbassyBox").insertAdjacentHTML("beforebegin",
`
<form action="/page=region_control/region=rsca" method="post">
<p>
  <label>Request embassies with:
    <input type="text" name="embassyregion" placeholder="Destination region...">
  </label>
  <input type="hidden" name="chk" value="${document.querySelector('input[name="chk"]').value}">
  <button type="submit" name="embassyrequest" value="1" class="button icon approve primary big">Request embassies</button>
</p>
`);
})();


Edit: words

Noticed that the script has a hardcoded "region=rsca" in it, might be better if it worked with any region (or even multiple regions in which one is RO)

[Racoda]

Noticed that the script has a hardcoded "region=rsca" in it, might be better if it worked with any region (or even multiple regions in which one is RO)

Gah!! Can't believe I missed that when proofreading. Fixed.