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Please vote on the options:

Poll ended at Sat Sep 26, 2020 4:13 am

Remove any mention of UEI from the WFE and restore the old flag.
5
71%
Keep the UEI's name in the WFE , but restore the old flag.
1
14%
Keep it as it is.
1
14%
 
Total votes : 7

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Baghdad Caliphate
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Shura Council meeting of the Islamic Empire( Closed to IE on

Postby Baghdad Caliphate » Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:32 am

The first Shura Meeting, post refounding.

Members:
Wazir: Baghdad Caliphate
Emir: Ali Imam
Wazir aljaysh: Nouistan

I, the Wazir hereby call the Shura meeting to order. We shall be here to discuss several issues arising out of the recent changes.
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Baghdad Caliphate
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Postby Baghdad Caliphate » Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:49 am

Let me start by saying that we are grateful to the All merciful Allah , by whose grace we could salvage the region from being refounded as a colony of Genua. But then, certain thoughts have crept into my mind in these days.
I, personally am not all happy with the new founder's tampering of our flag, which demeans our independence and makes us subservient to the United Empire of Islam.
Moreover, the WFE also reflects the name of UEI prominently, which stings our desire for true freedom.
I would like to hear from you all regarding the above two points.
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Ali Imam
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Postby Ali Imam » Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:17 am

Well, the times are extraordinary now and we must not forget that it is the UEI who got us our freedom.The founder had told right at the beginning that we shall be able to control the region like before. So that will mean the WFE and the flag.I don't think the UEI will impose any flag if we don't want it.
That said, yes even I find the flag to be offensive and we must restore the old flag ASAP.

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Insaanistan
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Postby Insaanistan » Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:19 am

Asalaamu Ālaykum wa rahmatallahi wa barakatuhu, my brothers and sisters.
السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركته
May the peace and blessings of God be with you!
Hello brother (or sister),
I’m an unapologetic Muslim and overall peaceful person.
If you have any questions about Islam, or want to debate in a civil manner, I’m open to it.
Peace and Love.

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Dawood Ibrahim
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Postby Dawood Ibrahim » Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:26 am

Thanks, Insanistan, but sorry, this is a closed thread for Islamic Empire members only.We will surely meet later.

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Dawood Ibrahim
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Postby Dawood Ibrahim » Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:30 am

Baghdad Caliphate wrote:Let me start by saying that we are grateful to the All merciful Allah , by whose grace we could salvage the region from being refounded as a colony of Genua. But then, certain thoughts have crept into my mind in these days.
I, personally am not all happy with the new founder's tampering of our flag, which demeans our independence and makes us subservient to the United Empire of Islam.
Moreover, the WFE also reflects the name of UEI prominently, which stings our desire for true freedom.
I would like to hear from you all regarding the above two points.


We also believe that the flag must be restored in toto. If at all it is to be changed, the region will take a decision as a whole. Hence, the flag must be restored at the earliest.
Also, definitely we are indebted to the UEI for their immense help, but the mentioning of the UEI name will be indicative of IE being a colony of UEI. This may make us lose members or fail to attract new members. Whoever wants to join a colony region? Thus, the continuation of the UEI name in the WFE, will be detrimental to our future as a region.

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Insaanistan
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Postby Insaanistan » Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:40 am

Dawood Ibrahim wrote:Thanks, Insanistan, but sorry, this is a closed thread for Islamic Empire members only.We will surely meet later.


Sorry, I didn’t realize.
السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركته
May the peace and blessings of God be with you!
Hello brother (or sister),
I’m an unapologetic Muslim and overall peaceful person.
If you have any questions about Islam, or want to debate in a civil manner, I’m open to it.
Peace and Love.

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Mughal Huqumat
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Postby Mughal Huqumat » Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:03 pm

Baghdad Caliphate wrote:Let me start by saying that we are grateful to the All merciful Allah , by whose grace we could salvage the region from being refounded as a colony of Genua. But then, certain thoughts have crept into my mind in these days.
I, personally am not all happy with the new founder's tampering of our flag, which demeans our independence and makes us subservient to the United Empire of Islam.
Moreover, the WFE also reflects the name of UEI prominently, which stings our desire for true freedom.
I would like to hear from you all regarding the above two points.


At this moment, I feel we should refrain from inflammatory wordings, Dawood. I agree with Ali Imam, that the flag and WFE can be restored immediately as one of you has the necessary privileges. This can be done and does not even require any approval from anybody, because the restoration of the flag is one of the most important criteria after a raid.

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Ali Imam
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Postby Ali Imam » Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:58 am

I see that most of the nations have agreed upon the discontinuation of the UWI's name in the WFE and the restoration of the old flag.
I would like to request the Al Wazir Al Awwal to pleas declare a whole Majlis vote for the same ( comprising of all members) so that our action is democratic and is represantative.

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Baghdad Caliphate
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Postby Baghdad Caliphate » Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:14 am

Ali Imam wrote:I see that most of the nations have agreed upon the discontinuation of the UWI's name in the WFE and the restoration of the old flag.
I would like to request the Al Wazir Al Awwal to pleas declare a whole Majlis vote for the same ( comprising of all members) so that our action is democratic and is represantative.


Put up the poll for all to vote upon. I too realize that we need the involvement of the whole region in this major decision.

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Mughal Huqumat
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Postby Mughal Huqumat » Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:14 am

Voted in the poll. Urge all to vote please.

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Dawood Ibrahim
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Postby Dawood Ibrahim » Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:44 pm

Voted for option 1.
But in view of the founder addressing the region and changing the WFE, one part is already accomplished.
Regarding the flag, I have two options which might serve as our flag:
Option 1. Image

AND

Option 2: Image

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Merneptah
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Postby Merneptah » Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:07 pm

I prefer the second one.

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Baghdad Caliphate
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Postby Baghdad Caliphate » Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:16 am

Dawood Ibrahim wrote:Voted for option 1.
But in view of the founder addressing the region and changing the WFE, one part is already accomplished.
Regarding the flag, I have two options which might serve as our flag:
Option 1. (Image)

AND

Option 2: (Image)


I would go with the first one. Someday we might be an assertive region.
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Merneptah
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Postby Merneptah » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:13 am

Regarding flags, the second one please.

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Nouistan
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Postby Nouistan » Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:36 am

So I was completely unaware this was happening as I have been busy and not logged in. I would have to ask some questions, though

1. To clarify the issue is being seen as a colony more general, not specifically that it is UEI?
2. Given that another member of that racist region gained access to this region, would it be useful to temporally downplay our Islamic sensibilities - in an aesthetic sense at least - at least until they seem to have gotten bored with us?
3. Alternatively is anyone aware if this website has rules regarding respectful comments or any other means by which to report many of the nations in their region owing to Islamophobia and racism?

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Baghdad Caliphate
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Postby Baghdad Caliphate » Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:08 am

To clarify Nouistan's queries:
1. Yes, being seen as a colony in general. Definitely not specifically about UEI. It is the case of a weaker region being helped by a stronger region, albeit with conditions.But the issue now has been sorted out.

2. Regarding downplaying our sensibilities, we could do that temporarily, but it won't help.Moreover, it will mean too much of bending backwards for buying peace. We can't change their mindset.After their failed attempt, they may have already become bored.

3. Planting a mole to takeover the region will not be considered an offense, it will be considered part of gameplay. I checked earlier, but as long as they do not refer to any RL incident, they are allowed to take a position against any group. Also, their gameplay against Muslims, who are not belonging to any race as such, may not qualify for rascist acts.
Except strictly explicit Nazi symbols like swastika etc, many Nazi things are also not banned.

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Nouistan
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Postby Nouistan » Sat Sep 26, 2020 5:29 am

Thank you BC. It is rather concerning that even Nazi flags aren't banned here, but hey. Many of the comments they had made have been targeting us as Muslims so there's some possibility there. If anyone has seen such posts and could send me the links I'm compiling a report to send to the administrators.

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Baghdad Caliphate
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Postby Baghdad Caliphate » Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:22 am

Looking at the new flags proposed by Dawood Ibrahim, the second flag is being selected for the region.


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