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From the info given so far, do you think that Angwang was working for the PRC?

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NYPD Officer allegedly acting as agent of China

Postby La xinga » Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:12 pm

https://abc7ny.com/nypd-officer-arreste ... a/6484676/

NYPD officer Baimadajie Angwang, a community affairs officer in the 111 precinct in Queens and a US Army Reservist at Fort Dix, has been arrested for allegedly acting as an agent of China.

According to the criminal complaint, Angwang acted "at the direction and control" of Chinese government officials at the consulate in New York to report on the activities of ethnic Tibetans, assess potential ethnic Tibetan intelligence sources and use his official position at the police department to give consulate officials access to senior NYPD officials.

"None of these activities falls within the scope of Angwang's official duties and responsibilities with either the NYPD or the USAR," the complaint said.

Angwang, 33, is an ethnic Tibetan native of the People's Republic of China and a naturalized U.S. citizen who referred to himself as an "asset" of the People's Republic of China, according to the criminal complaint. Since June 2018, the FBI said Angwang has been "in frequent communication" with an unidentified Chinese consular official he referred to as "Boss."


In one phone call between Angwang and the consular official, the complaint said Angwang offered "to raise our country's soft power" by having the consular official attend NYPD events. He also allegedly offered to provide the consular official with nonpublic information about the internal workings of the police department.

"Angwang also discussed the utility of developing sources for the PRC government in the local Tibetan community and suggested that the primary qualification for a source as follows: 'If you're willing to recognize the motherland, the motherland is willing to assist you with its resources,'" the complaint said.

Since prior to 2018 and through the present, officials say Angwang has maintained a relationship with at least two People's Republic of China officials stationed at the Consulate. One PRC official is believed to have been assigned to the "China Association for Preservation and Development of Tibetan Culture," a division of the PRC's United Front Work Department ("UFWD"). The department is responsible for, among other things, neutralizing sources of potential opposition to the policies and authority of the PRC.

Recorded conversations have revealed that the PRC officials has been a "handler" of Angwang. He received tasks from them and reported back to PRC officials.

From August 21, 2014, through August 11, 2017, Angwang called and texted one of the PRC official's cellular telephone on at least 53 occasions. From in or about and between June 2018 through March 2020, Angwang called and texted the other PRC official's cellular telephone on at least 55 occasions.

Furthermore, Angwang has been observed entering the Consulate on numerous occasions during these time periods.

NYPD Police Commissioner Dermot Shea also commented on the situation.

"As alleged in this federal complaint, Baimadajie Angwang violated every oath he took in this country," Shea said in a statement. "One to the United States, another to the U.S. Army, and a third to this Police Department. From the earliest stages of this investigation, the NYPD's Intelligence and Internal Affairs bureaus worked closely with the FBI's Counterintelligence Division to make sure this individual would be brought to justice."

In 2018, the NYPD awarded Angwang "Officer of the Month" for his initiative and public service.


Cool story, but I'm troubled. Why the NYPD? The NYPD, like many other police forces in the nation, are not in the best shape. China could ahve chose a lot of stuff, yet, if this ends up being confirmed true, they chose a random city's police force.

Why do you think the PRC chose that?
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:16 pm

"why don't people trust the police"

this does not help the world, he needs to get fucking real with the world and act your age
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:16 pm

La xinga wrote:Why do you think the PRC chose that?


New York is a hub of just about everything on the planet, including dissidents and enemies to the Chinese state. In this case it was a Tibetan loyalist keeping the PRC up to date on dissident activities overseas.

He wasn't the first and he's far from the last. PRC agents have masked themselves flawlessly into exchange students and other groups and we've known about it for years.
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Mathuvan Union wrote:"why don't people trust the police"

this does not help the world, he needs to get fucking real with the world and act your age

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Postby Mathuvan Union » Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:17 pm

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La xinga wrote:Why do you think the PRC chose that?


New York is a hub of just about everything on the planet, including dissidents and enemies to the Chinese state. In this case it was a Tibetan loyalist keeping the PRC up to date on dissident activities overseas.

He wasn't the first and he's far from the last. PRC agents have masked themselves flawlessly into exchange students and other groups and we've known about it for years.

they are the new KGB
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Postby SangMar » Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:17 pm

Mathuvan Union wrote:"why don't people trust the police"

this does not help the world, he needs to get fucking real with the world and act your age


I really doubt out of all the issues many Americans have with police - “They’re Chinese spies” is the one at the forefront of the last several months’ protests.
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:18 pm

SangMar wrote:
Mathuvan Union wrote:"why don't people trust the police"

this does not help the world, he needs to get fucking real with the world and act your age


I really doubt out of all the issues many Americans have with police - “They’re Chinese spies” is the one at the forefront of the last several months’ protests.

I understand that, it certainly doesn't help.
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Postby Heloin » Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:22 pm

Mathuvan Union wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
New York is a hub of just about everything on the planet, including dissidents and enemies to the Chinese state. In this case it was a Tibetan loyalist keeping the PRC up to date on dissident activities overseas.

He wasn't the first and he's far from the last. PRC agents have masked themselves flawlessly into exchange students and other groups and we've known about it for years.

they are the new KGB

Well, sort of. The FSB, CIA, MSS, MI6 and all the other intelligence services still send spies to each others countries, the end of the cold war didn't stop any of the spying.
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Postby Ikania » Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:22 pm

Congratulations dude, you just committed treason.

Guy must be shitting his pants now that he's been caught. It's very concerning that a Chinese agent was allowed to make it into the NYPD and exercise any degree of influence.
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Postby Vistulange » Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:26 pm

La xinga wrote:Cool story, but I'm troubled. Why the NYPD? The NYPD, like many other police forces in the nation, are not in the best shape. China could ahve chose a lot of stuff, yet, if this ends up being confirmed true, they chose a random city's police force.

Why do you think the PRC chose that?

You rarely, if ever, need to infiltrate the highest echelons of a country's bureaucracy to get your job done. Emphasis on "get your job done": why the PRC could have chosen this fellow depends on what they were trying to accomplish. If it's surveillance of Tibetan people, you might not need people that are too high up. Positioning agents or informers too high up can attract undue attention, and that's just an unnecessary risk.
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:27 pm

La xinga wrote:
Mathuvan Union wrote:"why don't people trust the police"

this does not help the world, he needs to get fucking real with the world and act your age

:eyebrow:

A police officer, this is ridiculous.
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Postby North American Imperial State » Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:37 pm

Well fuck, there goes any trust or respect for the New Yorks Finest.

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We haven't been doing enough to weed out the ChiCom spies in this country.
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North American Imperial State wrote:Well fuck, there goes any trust or respect for the New Yorks Finest.

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La xinga wrote:https://abc7ny.com/nypd-officer-arrested-for-acting-as-agent-of-china/6484676/

NYPD officer Baimadajie Angwang, a community affairs officer in the 111 precinct in Queens and a US Army Reservist at Fort Dix, has been arrested for allegedly acting as an agent of China.

According to the criminal complaint, Angwang acted "at the direction and control" of Chinese government officials at the consulate in New York to report on the activities of ethnic Tibetans, assess potential ethnic Tibetan intelligence sources and use his official position at the police department to give consulate officials access to senior NYPD officials.

"None of these activities falls within the scope of Angwang's official duties and responsibilities with either the NYPD or the USAR," the complaint said.

Angwang, 33, is an ethnic Tibetan native of the People's Republic of China and a naturalized U.S. citizen who referred to himself as an "asset" of the People's Republic of China, according to the criminal complaint. Since June 2018, the FBI said Angwang has been "in frequent communication" with an unidentified Chinese consular official he referred to as "Boss."


In one phone call between Angwang and the consular official, the complaint said Angwang offered "to raise our country's soft power" by having the consular official attend NYPD events. He also allegedly offered to provide the consular official with nonpublic information about the internal workings of the police department.

"Angwang also discussed the utility of developing sources for the PRC government in the local Tibetan community and suggested that the primary qualification for a source as follows: 'If you're willing to recognize the motherland, the motherland is willing to assist you with its resources,'" the complaint said.

Since prior to 2018 and through the present, officials say Angwang has maintained a relationship with at least two People's Republic of China officials stationed at the Consulate. One PRC official is believed to have been assigned to the "China Association for Preservation and Development of Tibetan Culture," a division of the PRC's United Front Work Department ("UFWD"). The department is responsible for, among other things, neutralizing sources of potential opposition to the policies and authority of the PRC.

Recorded conversations have revealed that the PRC officials has been a "handler" of Angwang. He received tasks from them and reported back to PRC officials.

From August 21, 2014, through August 11, 2017, Angwang called and texted one of the PRC official's cellular telephone on at least 53 occasions. From in or about and between June 2018 through March 2020, Angwang called and texted the other PRC official's cellular telephone on at least 55 occasions.

Furthermore, Angwang has been observed entering the Consulate on numerous occasions during these time periods.

NYPD Police Commissioner Dermot Shea also commented on the situation.

"As alleged in this federal complaint, Baimadajie Angwang violated every oath he took in this country," Shea said in a statement. "One to the United States, another to the U.S. Army, and a third to this Police Department. From the earliest stages of this investigation, the NYPD's Intelligence and Internal Affairs bureaus worked closely with the FBI's Counterintelligence Division to make sure this individual would be brought to justice."

In 2018, the NYPD awarded Angwang "Officer of the Month" for his initiative and public service.


Cool story, but I'm troubled. Why the NYPD? The NYPD, like many other police forces in the nation, are not in the best shape. China could ahve chose a lot of stuff, yet, if this ends up being confirmed true, they chose a random city's police force.

Why do you think the PRC chose that?


Its not random the article spells it out. They were spying on Tibetan nationalists in NYC.
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Ethel mermania wrote:
La xinga wrote:https://abc7ny.com/nypd-officer-arrested-for-acting-as-agent-of-china/6484676/

NYPD officer Baimadajie Angwang, a community affairs officer in the 111 precinct in Queens and a US Army Reservist at Fort Dix, has been arrested for allegedly acting as an agent of China.

According to the criminal complaint, Angwang acted "at the direction and control" of Chinese government officials at the consulate in New York to report on the activities of ethnic Tibetans, assess potential ethnic Tibetan intelligence sources and use his official position at the police department to give consulate officials access to senior NYPD officials.

"None of these activities falls within the scope of Angwang's official duties and responsibilities with either the NYPD or the USAR," the complaint said.

Angwang, 33, is an ethnic Tibetan native of the People's Republic of China and a naturalized U.S. citizen who referred to himself as an "asset" of the People's Republic of China, according to the criminal complaint. Since June 2018, the FBI said Angwang has been "in frequent communication" with an unidentified Chinese consular official he referred to as "Boss."


In one phone call between Angwang and the consular official, the complaint said Angwang offered "to raise our country's soft power" by having the consular official attend NYPD events. He also allegedly offered to provide the consular official with nonpublic information about the internal workings of the police department.

"Angwang also discussed the utility of developing sources for the PRC government in the local Tibetan community and suggested that the primary qualification for a source as follows: 'If you're willing to recognize the motherland, the motherland is willing to assist you with its resources,'" the complaint said.

Since prior to 2018 and through the present, officials say Angwang has maintained a relationship with at least two People's Republic of China officials stationed at the Consulate. One PRC official is believed to have been assigned to the "China Association for Preservation and Development of Tibetan Culture," a division of the PRC's United Front Work Department ("UFWD"). The department is responsible for, among other things, neutralizing sources of potential opposition to the policies and authority of the PRC.

Recorded conversations have revealed that the PRC officials has been a "handler" of Angwang. He received tasks from them and reported back to PRC officials.

From August 21, 2014, through August 11, 2017, Angwang called and texted one of the PRC official's cellular telephone on at least 53 occasions. From in or about and between June 2018 through March 2020, Angwang called and texted the other PRC official's cellular telephone on at least 55 occasions.

Furthermore, Angwang has been observed entering the Consulate on numerous occasions during these time periods.

NYPD Police Commissioner Dermot Shea also commented on the situation.

"As alleged in this federal complaint, Baimadajie Angwang violated every oath he took in this country," Shea said in a statement. "One to the United States, another to the U.S. Army, and a third to this Police Department. From the earliest stages of this investigation, the NYPD's Intelligence and Internal Affairs bureaus worked closely with the FBI's Counterintelligence Division to make sure this individual would be brought to justice."

In 2018, the NYPD awarded Angwang "Officer of the Month" for his initiative and public service.


Cool story, but I'm troubled. Why the NYPD? The NYPD, like many other police forces in the nation, are not in the best shape. China could ahve chose a lot of stuff, yet, if this ends up being confirmed true, they chose a random city's police force.

Why do you think the PRC chose that?


Its not random the article spells it out. They were spying on Tibetan nationalists in NYC.

Are Tibetan nationalists only in NYC?
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Sep 21, 2020 2:03 pm

La xinga wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
Its not random the article spells it out. They were spying on Tibetan nationalists in NYC.

Are Tibetan nationalists only in NYC?

In the US? its a hub.
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Ethel mermania wrote:
La xinga wrote:Are Tibetan nationalists only in NYC?

In the US? its a hub.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibetan_Americans

I see more places too.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Sep 21, 2020 2:07 pm

La xinga wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:In the US? its a hub.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibetan_Americans

I see more places too.

Indeed.
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Postby La xinga » Mon Sep 21, 2020 2:08 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:

Indeed.

So why did the Chinese choose NYC? If it's because they have a consulate, they have an embassy in DC too, and there's a Tibetan community in DC.
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Postby Punished UMN » Mon Sep 21, 2020 2:10 pm

Ikania wrote:Congratulations dude, you just committed treason.

Guy must be shitting his pants now that he's been caught. It's very concerning that a Chinese agent was allowed to make it into the NYPD and exercise any degree of influence.

Espionage, not treason. Related, but very different charges and penalties.
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Postby The Lake- » Mon Sep 21, 2020 2:11 pm

La xinga wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Indeed.

So why did the Chinese choose NYC?

What makes you think he's the only one?

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