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Has anyone else tried diplomacy with Brasilistan?

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Uomelt
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Has anyone else tried diplomacy with Brasilistan?

Postby Uomelt » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:50 pm

Here is what I got, and then proceeded to choose sanctions:

AN INTERNATIONAL INCIDENT

Sanctions, Sanctions Everywhere!

Issue Series

“An International Incident”
The Story So Far
A distant country called Brasilistan has abducted Uomletette citizens and sent them to work in diamond mines in appalling conditions. You gathered your advisers and decided the best course of action was to wade in carefully with some carrot-and-stick diplomacy.

The Issue
The decision to try for a diplomatic solution with Brasilistan, rather than open warfare, has been a success with the hostages released. However, aggrieved leading members of the Brasilistani government are openly encouraging vigilantes in the nation’s armed forces to hit back at Uomelt and its interests. The debate now turns to what Uomelt should do next to completely neutralise Brasilistan.

The Debate
“Extending the hand of peace was all well and good, but now we have to make sure they stay under our thumb,” your Minister for Foreign Affairs Hillary Smoochinger says candidly, taking a seat in your office. “Right now they can fall back on their military and continue to do unspeakable and violent acts - don’t forget they abducted their own children! But if we make that option unviable, then I think we’ll find them more than eager to sit down to peace talks. To cripple their military, we need to cripple their economy, and the most effective way to do this is through sanctions. We can embargo the non-essential items, and stick considerable tariffs on the stuff we do need. Eventually they’ll have to accede to our demands.”

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“Crippling their military is a good idea, but we don’t have the time for economics to work,” the Chief of Staff of the Armed Forces, General Dwight Powell barks. “We need to get our Navy to blockade their ports, get our Air Force to bomb their airfields and key economic centres — we don’t have to put a single soldier on Brasilistan soil and we’ll still be able to force them into submission. With blockaded ports, burning airfields, and a decimated economy, their military will have no hope of controlling the home front, let alone invading another country. They’ll be soon doing what we tell them. A little gunboat diplomacy is all we need.”

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“These options all sound quite expensive,” chimes in Timothy Lagarde, the Treasury Minister. “Wouldn’t it be cheaper to, perhaps, send in a few very well trained, and very deadly, operatives and have them deal with the top officials in the regime? We might find some to be very agreeable to our terms after a few intense ... ‘workouts’, we’ll call them. If they refuse to be co-operative, well, I’m sure removing them from the situation entirely might convince their successors to see our way of thinking. It’ll be cheaper for us with no long lasting effects on either nation. Everybody wins! Except for those assassinated, of course, but let’s not concern ourselves with those little details.”

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Postby Kiu Ghesik » Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:00 pm

Uomelt wrote:Here is what I got, and then proceeded to choose sanctions:

AN INTERNATIONAL INCIDENT

Sanctions, Sanctions Everywhere!

Issue Series

“An International Incident”
The Story So Far
A distant country called Brasilistan has abducted Uomletette citizens and sent them to work in diamond mines in appalling conditions. You gathered your advisers and decided the best course of action was to wade in carefully with some carrot-and-stick diplomacy.

The Issue
The decision to try for a diplomatic solution with Brasilistan, rather than open warfare, has been a success with the hostages released. However, aggrieved leading members of the Brasilistani government are openly encouraging vigilantes in the nation’s armed forces to hit back at Uomelt and its interests. The debate now turns to what Uomelt should do next to completely neutralise Brasilistan.

The Debate
“Extending the hand of peace was all well and good, but now we have to make sure they stay under our thumb,” your Minister for Foreign Affairs Hillary Smoochinger says candidly, taking a seat in your office. “Right now they can fall back on their military and continue to do unspeakable and violent acts - don’t forget they abducted their own children! But if we make that option unviable, then I think we’ll find them more than eager to sit down to peace talks. To cripple their military, we need to cripple their economy, and the most effective way to do this is through sanctions. We can embargo the non-essential items, and stick considerable tariffs on the stuff we do need. Eventually they’ll have to accede to our demands.”

Accept

“Crippling their military is a good idea, but we don’t have the time for economics to work,” the Chief of Staff of the Armed Forces, General Dwight Powell barks. “We need to get our Navy to blockade their ports, get our Air Force to bomb their airfields and key economic centres — we don’t have to put a single soldier on Brasilistan soil and we’ll still be able to force them into submission. With blockaded ports, burning airfields, and a decimated economy, their military will have no hope of controlling the home front, let alone invading another country. They’ll be soon doing what we tell them. A little gunboat diplomacy is all we need.”

Accept

“These options all sound quite expensive,” chimes in Timothy Lagarde, the Treasury Minister. “Wouldn’t it be cheaper to, perhaps, send in a few very well trained, and very deadly, operatives and have them deal with the top officials in the regime? We might find some to be very agreeable to our terms after a few intense ... ‘workouts’, we’ll call them. If they refuse to be co-operative, well, I’m sure removing them from the situation entirely might convince their successors to see our way of thinking. It’ll be cheaper for us with no long lasting effects on either nation. Everybody wins! Except for those assassinated, of course, but let’s not concern ourselves with those little details.”

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IIRC if you choose Option 2 you cripple them to the point of starvation, at which point the option to annex them becomes available.
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Postby Uomelt » Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:05 pm

I ended up with this and chose the second option, which increased crime and freedom from taxation, while making Brasilistan a colony:

AN INTERNATIONAL INCIDENT

The Third Horseman of Brasilistan

Issue Series

“An International Incident”
The Story So Far
Your government’s response to overtures of aggression from the Brasilistanis has been to sanction the nation and its inhabitants beyond imagination.

The Issue
International allies have formed a coalition to impose economic sanctions on Brasilistan, and as a consequence, the nation can no longer import enough basic supplies to sustain its population. As it becomes increasingly impoverished, the embargoed civilian population is dying of hunger.

The Debate
“We can’t stand by and let innocent men, women, and children die of malnourishment because of your government’s shortsighted actions!” cries the CEO of the Global Meal Plan, Nomathemba Pence. “I know you’re trying to make Brasilistan back off through economic means, but you need to please lay off some of the sanctions and embargoes and send some food aid through. You want to avoid the casualties of a war, but innocent people are still dying. I beg you, fix this.”

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“Brasilistan is weak, its people are dying, now’s the time to deal the killer blow,” your Minister for the Interior argues. “Of course we should send them food aid, but only if the Brasilistan government agrees to end their aggression, surrender to us, and submit their nation to our control. This little diplomatic incident will have ended, the Brasilistani will have food again, and our government can get back to spending money where it’s necessary. Everybody wins.”

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Postby Uomelt » Fri Sep 11, 2020 6:33 am

I have ended up with a new incident after setting up a colony, and chose the first option:

AN INTERNATIONAL INCIDENT

Time for a Colonyoscopy!

Issue Series

“An International Incident”
The Story So Far
The problems in Brasilistan were mounting daily. So, when push came to shove, an advisor told you to just take it over. And you did.

The Issue
The dust has settled and, somehow, Uomelt is now the proud owner of a new colony! There are still some teething issues, however, and there are some cultural and societal conflicts between settlers and native peoples. It’s up to you on how best to resolve these issues.

The Debate
“Obviously we need to remove the settlers,” Elizabeth Sajak, Chairperson of the Uomelt Council of Immigration Studies says frankly. “Pulling out completely and leaving the remaining populace to their own devices, however, would be detrimental and irresponsible. Ideally what needs to be done is to make Brasilistan a full part of Uomelt, and give the remaining Brasilistanis full citizenship. We’d all be part of the same country, with the same citizenship, and the same rights and responsibilities.”

Accept

“Woah, hold on there, that’s way too drastic, and way too fast,” your Interior Minister chuckles. “That’s not going to solve the issues they’re facing today over there right now. We need to come up with some sort of initiative that slowly integrates the Brasilistanis into our culture. You should appoint panels of arbiters consisting of international experts to broker agreements between settlers and natives where necessary too. It’ll work, definitely. Probably.”

Accept

“It’s our land now,” your energy advisor says quietly. “It’s ours. Our own. Our precious. Eh, where was I … oh yes, Brasilistan. Look, there’s not that many Brasilistani left, let’s just give them the useless pockets of land. Like those on mountain slopes or in bogland. All oil-rich and arable lands can be kept for ourselves. Sure, it’s a little like segregation, but at least everyone will be happy, right?”

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“All these options are valid, to be sure, but I have an easier way of settling this,” Jiang Ambrose, head of the nation’s nuclear program says in a matter-of-fact tone. “Can we please just nuke the place? Get our own guys out first, obviously but then just nuke it. We don’t need a colony, but we do need a nuclear testing site. Our own citizens here are getting annoyed we’re destroying good land in Uomelt when there’s a perfectly good dump in the form of Brasilistan.”

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