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Violence Outbreak in Kenosha WI

Postby Kowani » Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:42 pm

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Kenosha police shot a man Sunday evening, setting off unrest in the city after a video appeared to show the officer firing several shots at close range into the man's back.

The shooting victim has been identified as Jacob Blake, a Black man, by Wisconsin officials. He was in serious condition at Froedtert Hospital in Milwaukee as of early Monday morning.

The Wisconsin Department of Justice's Division of Criminal Investigation said early Monday that the involved officers have been placed on administrative leave.

Police had been called to a domestic incident in the 2800 block of 40th Street at 5:11 p.m. where the shooting later occurred.

Officers provided immediate aid to the shooting victim, Kenosha police reported, and he was taken by Flight for Life to Froedtert.

“Tonight, Jacob Blake was shot in the back multiple times, in broad daylight," Wisconsin Gov. Tony Evers said in a statement. "While we do not have all of the details yet, what we know for certain is that he is not the first Black man or person to have been shot or injured or mercilessly killed at the hands of individuals in law enforcement in our state or our country."

The Kenosha News reported that neighbors said Blake was trying to break up a fight between two women. Bystanders said he was Tased and then shot several times.

A video circulating on social media shows a man in a white shirt and black shorts walking to a gray van, followed by two male police officers with weapons drawn. The video does not show what happened before the man walked away from the officers, nor what was said, if anything.

As the man opens the door to get in, an officer grabs his shirt to hold him still, then appears to shoot him in the back at close range. Seven shots are heard, followed by a car horn, presumably from the man's head falling forward. A woman who followed behind the police can be seen screaming and jumping up and down.

Kenosha police requested Wisconsin State Patrol and Kenosha County Sheriff's deputies come to the scene because the shooting involved an officer.

The Division of Criminal Investigation said in a news release early Monday morning that it will try to provide a report of the incident to the prosector within 30 days.

"DCI is continuing to review evidence and determine the facts of this incident and will turn over investigative reports to a prosecutor following a complete and thorough investigation," the release said.

Civil rights attorney Benjamin Crump shared a video from the incident on Twitter. He also said Blake's three sons were in the car when Blake was shot.

"They saw a cop shoot their father," Crump tweeted. "They will be traumatized forever. We cannot let officers violate their duty to PROTECT us. Our kids deserve better!!"

Crump represents the family of George Floyd, a Black man who died at the knee of a fired Minneapolis police officer on Memorial Day. He also is backing the family of Joel Acevedo, who died after being put into a chokehold by an off-duty Milwaukee police officer at a party.

Large crowds soon gathered at the scene of the shooting. A livestream from podcaster Koerri Elijah showed small fires in the street and a person, possibly an officer, lying prone on the ground, surrounded by officers.

The crowds began moving away from the scene, and the video showed people walking down the sidewalk and street, some on bicycles with some vehicles accompanying them, occasionally chanting. The video showed people kicking at police vehicles and later it appeared some fireworks were set off.

"Things have been very heated, tons of damage to cop cars, an officer was actually knocked out," the person taking video said.

A crowd of about 100 had reached the Kenosha County Public Safety Building by 10:15 p.m. and were chanting "no justice, no peace."

A couple hundred people gather outside the Kenosha police station Aug. 23, 2020, after police shot Jacob Blake.
A line of police flanked the building and faced off with the crowd, moving them back away from the building.

The County of Kenosha declared a state of Emergency Curfew for 10:15 p.m., saying "the public needs to be off the streets for their safety." It will be enforced until 7 a.m.

At 11:05 police began backing up in a cordon around the front doors of the police station and then set off teargas canisters as people ran in fear, trying to wipe their eyes.

At 11:15 p.m., a city dump truck that had been positioned to prevent traffic from heading toward the police department was fully engulfed in fire. Some people were getting close to take pictures until someone shouted that the gas tank could blow.

A big boom sounded when one of the tires blew up around 11:45, scattering the crowd.

The crowd had lessened by midnight to a couple hundred people who stood in the square next to the courthouse watching city dump trucks become engulfed in flames.

At 12:21 a.m., a few hundred people could be seen milling around the courthouse, which was tagged with graffiti condemning the shooting and police.

Someone set a fire outside the courthouse.

Officers later arrived at the courthouse to put the fire out; soon after, officers also began firing what appeared to be tear gas canisters.

Protesters then began smashing windows at the administration building near the courthouse. Officers formed a line behind a police vehicle and continued to deploy what appeared to be tear gas or smoke bombs.

Shortly before 1 a.m., police were asking for voluntary cooperation to disperse the area and leave the park.

"This is an unlawful assembly. Please leave the area," police could be heard telling the crowd as gas canisters were fired their way.

At 1:21, police formed a riot line and began moving into the park across the street from the courthouse.



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…In what world can you justify holding someone still, and then shooting them in the back 7 times?
The Internet tells me the car he was shot in had his kids in it, but I haven’t seen any confirmation of this from an official source. If someone can find one, that would be appreciated. It was in my own source. The kids were in the car.

Obligatory mod question: How will this fit into the greater BLM movement?

Update: The DOJ is now getting involved.

Update: 2 are dead, 1 more injured after a shooting during the protests/riots.
Jacob Blake himself seems to be paralyzed from the waist down.


Jacob Blake admitted to the officers that he had a knife inside his car during the investigation.
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Postby Spahgetti and meatballs » Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:43 pm

More looting and rioting on the horizon.

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Postby Galloism » Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:52 pm

Full disclosure - I skipped watching the video since I’m about to go to bed and I don’t need more nightmares.

That being said, a thorough and impartial investigation needs to take place, and the correct justice system response undertaken. While there are circumstances where shooting someone in the back to protect another can be appropriate, based on the written description, it does not sound like this was the case. We really really need to push for more restraint across the board, but especially as it comes to black men in particular.

Also, as a secondary request, let’s stop setting things on fire. Please.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:02 am

Spahgetti and meatballs wrote:More looting and rioting on the horizon.


You really hate the idea of ethnic minorities having a voice and want to paint them as violent to invalidate them, I see.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:07 am

Oh yeah that's straight up attempted murder. The dude isn't complying sure, but the cop makes pretty much no effort to even try and stop him and just goes right to trying to kill him.
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Postby Spahgetti and meatballs » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:08 am

Vassenor wrote:
Spahgetti and meatballs wrote:More looting and rioting on the horizon.


You really hate the idea of ethnic minorities having a voice and want to paint them as violent to invalidate them, I see.


1. I am Asian American.
2. I am not wrong in that BLM protests seem to be mostly an excuse to commit violence.
3. Martin Luther King Jr had a strong voice and did it without violence. He would disapprove of BLM.

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Postby Vassenor » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:18 am

Spahgetti and meatballs wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
You really hate the idea of ethnic minorities having a voice and want to paint them as violent to invalidate them, I see.


1. I am Asian American.
2. I am not wrong in that BLM protests seem to be mostly an excuse to commit violence.
3. Martin Luther King Jr had a strong voice and did it without violence. He would disapprove of BLM.


This is the same MLK who described riots as the voice of the unheard?
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Postby Spahgetti and meatballs » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:20 am

Vassenor wrote:
Spahgetti and meatballs wrote:
1. I am Asian American.
2. I am not wrong in that BLM protests seem to be mostly an excuse to commit violence.
3. Martin Luther King Jr had a strong voice and did it without violence. He would disapprove of BLM.


This is the same MLK who described riots as the voice of the unheard?


So you think my parents getting beaten up by looters trashing there store was a good thing? Noted.

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Postby Kowani » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:21 am

Spahgetti and meatballs wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
You really hate the idea of ethnic minorities having a voice and want to paint them as violent to invalidate them, I see.


1. I am Asian American.
2. I am not wrong in that BLM protests seem to be mostly an excuse to commit violence.
3. Martin Luther King Jr had a strong voice and did it without violence. He would disapprove of BLM.

On point two: You are wrong.
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Postby Nazeroth » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:22 am

Spahgetti and meatballs wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
This is the same MLK who described riots as the voice of the unheard?


So you think my parents getting beaten up by looters trashing there store was a good thing? Noted.


Whites/Asians don't get the luxory of being "victims" apparently.
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Postby Spahgetti and meatballs » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:23 am

Nazeroth wrote:
Spahgetti and meatballs wrote:
So you think my parents getting beaten up by looters trashing there store was a good thing? Noted.


Whites/Asians don't get the luxory of being "victims" apparently.


Sadly.

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Postby Liriena » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:24 am

Spahgetti and meatballs wrote:3. Martin Luther King Jr had a strong voice and did it without violence. He would disapprove of BLM.

MLK was an avowed socialist who openly empathized with rioters and disdained white moderates.

Find some other black leader to use for cheap respectability politics.
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Postby Spahgetti and meatballs » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:26 am

Liriena wrote:
Spahgetti and meatballs wrote:3. Martin Luther King Jr had a strong voice and did it without violence. He would disapprove of BLM.

MLK was an avowed socialist who openly empathized with rioters and disdained white moderates.

Find some other black leader to use for cheap respectability politics.


I will when you stop defending the thugs that beat the crap out of my parents while looting their store.

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Postby Nazeroth » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:27 am

Spahgetti and meatballs wrote:
Liriena wrote:MLK was an avowed socialist who openly empathized with rioters and disdained white moderates.

Find some other black leader to use for cheap respectability politics.


I will when you stop defending the thugs that beat the crap out of my parents while looting their store.


they will probably say something like "if you values your things more than your life then your the problem" cause you know, they are communists and hate the concept of private property.
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Postby Liriena » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:27 am

Spahgetti and meatballs wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
This is the same MLK who described riots as the voice of the unheard?


So you think my parents getting beaten up by looters trashing there store was a good thing? Noted.

That's a blatant strawman. You are putting words in her mouth.

What happened to your parents was wrong and I don't expect you to come into this discussion with a clear head, so I don't blame you for overgeneralizing and lashing out like this... but you are overgeneralizing and strawmanning and misusing MLK's legacy as a rhetorical crutch.
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Postby Spahgetti and meatballs » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:28 am

Liriena wrote:
Spahgetti and meatballs wrote:
So you think my parents getting beaten up by looters trashing there store was a good thing? Noted.

That's a blatant strawman. You are putting words in her mouth.

What happened to your parents was wrong and I don't expect you to come into this discussion with a clear head, so I don't blame you for overgeneralizing and lashing out like this... but you are overgeneralizing and strawmanning and misusing MLK's legacy as a rhetorical crutch.


I am not. You are just excusing senseless violence for the sake a left-wing agenda.

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Postby Liriena » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:29 am

Spahgetti and meatballs wrote:
Liriena wrote:MLK was an avowed socialist who openly empathized with rioters and disdained white moderates.

Find some other black leader to use for cheap respectability politics.


I will when you stop defending the thugs that beat the crap out of my parents while looting their store.

I'm not "defending" them. The fact is those people don't represent the millions of people who've been protesting peacefully for months and your argument sucks.

Your anger is legitimate. The arguments you are using to justify pointing it at everyone who identifies with BLM aren't.
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Postby Nazeroth » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:31 am

Liriena wrote:
Spahgetti and meatballs wrote:
I will when you stop defending the thugs that beat the crap out of my parents while looting their store.

I'm not "defending" them. The fact is those people don't represent the millions of people who've been protesting peacefully for months and your argument sucks.

Your anger is legitimate. The arguments you are using to justify pointing it at everyone who identifies with BLM aren't.


kind of like how Portland has experienced rioting....for MONTHS.

"peaceful protests for months" have you SEEN what the major cities went through and in some cases STILL going through after what, 80 something damn days?

your arguement sucks
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Postby Liriena » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:31 am

Nazeroth wrote:
Spahgetti and meatballs wrote:
I will when you stop defending the thugs that beat the crap out of my parents while looting their store.


they will probably say something like "if you values you your things more than your life then your the problem" cause you know, they are communists and hate the concept of private property.

You are being a very helpful actor in this discussion and I appreciate your very intelligent contributions.
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Postby Nazeroth » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:32 am

Liriena wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
they will probably say something like "if you values you your things more than your life then your the problem" cause you know, they are communists and hate the concept of private property.

You are being a very helpful actor in this discussion and I appreciate your very intelligent contributions.


I try :roll:
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Spahgetti and meatballs wrote:
Liriena wrote:That's a blatant strawman. You are putting words in her mouth.

What happened to your parents was wrong and I don't expect you to come into this discussion with a clear head, so I don't blame you for overgeneralizing and lashing out like this... but you are overgeneralizing and strawmanning and misusing MLK's legacy as a rhetorical crutch.


I am not. You are just excusing senseless violence for the sake a left-wing agenda.

No, I'm not. Stop strawmanning.
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Postby Neutraligon » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:33 am

Nazeroth wrote:
Liriena wrote:I'm not "defending" them. The fact is those people don't represent the millions of people who've been protesting peacefully for months and your argument sucks.

Your anger is legitimate. The arguments you are using to justify pointing it at everyone who identifies with BLM aren't.


kind of like how Portland has experienced rioting....for MONTHS.

"peaceful protests for months" have you SEEN what the major cities went through and in some cases STILL going through after what, 80 something damn days?

your arguement sucks

Portlander here, part of that is how the police responded, part of that is how the fed responded.
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Postby Liriena » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:33 am

Nazeroth wrote:
Liriena wrote:I'm not "defending" them. The fact is those people don't represent the millions of people who've been protesting peacefully for months and your argument sucks.

Your anger is legitimate. The arguments you are using to justify pointing it at everyone who identifies with BLM aren't.


kind of like how Portland has experienced rioting....for MONTHS.

"peaceful protests for months" have you SEEN what the major cities went through and in some cases STILL going through after what, 80 something damn days?

your arguement sucks

You know two things can happen at once, right?
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Postby Nazeroth » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:35 am

Neutraligon wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
kind of like how Portland has experienced rioting....for MONTHS.

"peaceful protests for months" have you SEEN what the major cities went through and in some cases STILL going through after what, 80 something damn days?

your arguement sucks

Portlander here, part of that is how the police responded, part of that is how the fed responded.


I could really not give a crap if your a "portlander" that means literally nothing, you could be a member of Antifa for all we know.
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Postby Nazeroth » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:35 am

Liriena wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
kind of like how Portland has experienced rioting....for MONTHS.

"peaceful protests for months" have you SEEN what the major cities went through and in some cases STILL going through after what, 80 something damn days?

your arguement sucks

You know two things can happen at once, right?


yeah and those two things both yell "black lives matter"
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