[PASSED] Commend The Skeleton Army

[Sedgistan]

This resolution is now at vote

Anyone unfamiliar with The Skeleton Army's method of invading regions can have a look at Yggdrasil, which is being invaded by them at this very moment.

[Maxaxle]

This is indeed a humerus topic, though I prefer not to commend a bunch of walking skeletons. Firstly, they are technically almost unstoppable, and secondly, they steal people's barbecue! That's not fair!

[Pythria]

Against, as it fails to mention that the region doesn't actually raid. I know because I read this thread, but I know a few people have been confused by this, and voted for because they thought TSA was being commended for not being 'griefing' invaders.

[Sedgistan]

Against, as it fails to mention that the region doesn't actually raid. I know because I read this thread, but I know a few people have been confused by this, and voted for because they thought TSA was being commended for not being 'griefing' invaders.

Well they do raid... they just do it differently. If I were commending an RPer in International Incidents for invading a country, I wouldn't laboriously spell out that its not actually a 'raid' in the NS gameplay sense (moving WA nations to take the delegacy of a region).

I would think its fairly obvious from the resolution that TSA aren't a conventional raider region, and anyone who isn't aware of exactly how their invasions work can read it here (as you did).

Voting against because the resolution doesn't spell out every aspect of how they work, despite the fact you clearly know how they do, doesn't make sense to me.

[Pythria]

If I were commending an RPer in International Incidents for invading a country, I wouldn't laboriously spell out that its not actually a 'raid' in the NS gameplay sense (moving WA nations to take the delegacy of a region).

I see your point, but it wouldn't be that hard to just say "NOTING that TSA doesn't actually take control of the regions it invades", or something along those lines?

I would think its fairly obvious from the resolution that TSA aren't a conventional raider region, and anyone who isn't aware of exactly how their invasions work can read it here (as you did).

Most people are lemmings, which usually involves voting for everything that comes up.

Voting against because the resolution doesn't spell out every aspect of how they work, despite the fact you clearly know how they do, doesn't make sense to me.

I suppose that's not really why I voted against. That's just something I didn't like. I vote against everything anyway.

[Sedgistan]

If I were commending an RPer in International Incidents for invading a country, I wouldn't laboriously spell out that its not actually a 'raid' in the NS gameplay sense (moving WA nations to take the delegacy of a region).

I see your point, but it wouldn't be that hard to just say "NOTING that TSA doesn't actually take control of the regions it invades", or something along those lines?

At one point, I had intended to have a clause in it saying that they didn't use WA nations, but it didn't fit in with the style of the rest of the resolution. I figured that this clause made clear that they invaded to interact with other regions, than to take control of the delegacy:

Surprised to learn that The Skeleton Army never causes harm to the regions it invades and instead prefers to mingle with the natives, steal food from their barbecues, and attempt to drink beer - with hilarious results,

[Ballotonia]

I see your point, but it wouldn't be that hard to just say "NOTING that TSA doesn't actually take control of the regions it invades", or something along those lines?

Such a clause would apply to any and all RP C&C's too: they don't actually take control of another nation, they don't actually slaughter anyone, they don't really give away actual nukes, they don't really ... etc...

IMHO, the theme of a C&C should match the play style of the target being C&C'd (keeping Rule IV in mind, of course). So a C&C for exemplary RP should fit with that RP, and a C&C of what TSA does should also be phrased to fit with what they do (I'm still not sure whether what they do qualifies as RP, Gameplay, or is a different animal altogether).

Ballotonia

[Vitaphone Racing]

Aware that this is a fate that has befallen such prominent regions as Texas, The West Pacific, The Rejected Realms, and The Cuckoos Egg,

This claim is false. The Skeleton Army invasion of Texas was an utter failure and an embarrassment. We also question as to why this region deserves a commendation when they have not done anything of value to date.

[Sedgistan]

Aware that this is a fate that has befallen such prominent regions as Texas, The West Pacific, The Rejected Realms, and The Cuckoos Egg,

This claim is false. The Skeleton Army invasion of Texas was an utter failure and an embarrassment.

Not really. Texas didn't surrender, but the invasion was enjoyed by everybody. It happened before your nation was founded, so unless you're a puppet, you probably weren't around to experience it. Either way, there's a transcript here, to remind you: http://z1.invisionfree.invalid.com/forums/Texas ... topic=5993

We also question as to why this region deserves a commendation when they have not done anything of value to date.

Well clearly you have a different definition of value to me, then. I'd consider a region which has spent several years brightening up the lives of regions through invasions which are welcomed by the victims to have contributed something of value to NationStates.

[Charlotte Ryberg]

Charlotte Ryberg was not really aware of the events until it came up on the WA. However, Ms. Harper will vote in favour having considered all arguments.

[Metania]

Slim vote against here. While I don't consider them evil, the 'friendly' pseudo-raiding doesn't quite impress me.

[Presul]

I get my jollies witnessing their raids.

Voting for.

[Evil Wolf]

I'd vote "for" except a Defender submitted this proposal, which makes me think they are just trying to make a mockery of all Crashing everywhere.

[Sedgistan]

I'd vote "for" except a Defender submitted this proposal, which makes me think they are just trying to make a mockery of all Crashing everywhere.

That's something I was worried people would think, but it definitely is not my intention.

It's also why the first clause reads:

Recognising The Skeleton Army as the self-declared "greatest raider region,"

"Self-declared" was deliberately included so that people wouldn't think I was trying to belittle other raider regions.

[Darkesia]

TWP has voted FOR. (We have been invaded! )


And we call on our allies in this time of darkness to please bring tiki torches. It's hard to see to cook the sticky ribs.

[Kurdazistan]

Must be nice for weak delegates to hide behind others.

I kept my vote as undecided for global security.

[Ethel mermania]

Greetings from the Peoples republic of Ethel Mermania, a small country with a love of broadway musicals

The nameless drones of the ethel mermanian foreign service wish to point out that they did Not bring an appetizer. However they did bring the ribs and ice cream.

[Ethel mermania]

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[Kurdazistan]

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