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[DRAFT] Researchers Refuse to Recant Rebellious Raving

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[DRAFT] Researchers Refuse to Recant Rebellious Raving

Postby Valrifell » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:41 pm

The Current Draft wrote:[Title] Researchers Refuse to Recant Rebellious Raving

[Description] Your Minister of Science has recently come under fire by the nation's academics for claiming that giving plants the right music to listen to could increase agriculture output 1000%, several of the nation’s top scientists have set up a meeting to ask you to do something about this.

[Validity] Only valid for nations with moderate scientific advancement and high authoritarianism, low freedom of speech.

[Option] “Look, @@LEADER@@,” begins the noted academic, Nicholas Valrilov, speaking on behalf of his colleagues, “Mr. Lyenovo has demonstrated a complete disregard for the scientific method, his ideas are simply rubbish! If you were to enact some of his dribble, you'll doom our space program, agricultural sector, AND basket-weaving industry. It is of the opinion of the nation’s most qualified minds that you remove this dim-witted miscreant from your cabinet at once!”
[effect] the nation is beholden to the whims of a cabal of nerds

[Option] “These idiots don't know what they’re talking about!” shouts your red-faced Minister of Science, barging into the room dramatically, “these so-called ‘academics’ have always had it out for me, ever since I was a child even, they just don’t understand my astute and genius mind. This is slander against the regime and must be cracked down on! It's simple math, @@LEADER@@, any attack on me is an attack on the state, which is an attack on you! Have all these fools sent to the work-camps where they belong!”
[effect] the sky is purple by law and anyone who disagrees vanishes under mysterious circumstances

[Option][if: Socialist] “All of this science is too complicated.” Plainly states your Minister of Labor, “I don’t think we need it. All we need is the glory of the working class and none of this brainy stuff. Why not throw all class-traitor academics into labor camps so we can return to a more simple way of life, forced back-breaking labor in the name of the state!”
[Effect] the torn lab coat has become a symbol of the working class

[Option][if: Capitalist] “All of this science is too complicated.” Plainly states your Minister of Finance, “I don’t think we need it. All we need is to ensure we grow by next quarter, none of this brainy stuff. Why not throw all these useless academics into labor camps so we can return to a more simple way of life, forced back-breaking labor in the name of profit!”
[Effect] the torn lab coat has become a symbol of the working class



[Title] Researchers Refuse to Recant Rebellious Raving

[Description] A group of scientists working in the state’s many laboratories recently penned a letter to you criticizing your Minister of Science, Dennis Lyenovo. The issue has sparked a debate in government about the role of academic dissent in government facilities.

[Validity] Only valid for nations with moderate scientific advancement and high authoritarianism, low freedom of speech.

[Option] “Dear @@LEADER@@,” begins the letter, “Mr. Lyenovo has demonstrated a complete disregard for the scientific method, his ideas are simply rubbish! If you were to enact some of his proposals regarding the proper ratio of nitrous oxide for our rocket fuel, you'll doom our space program, agricultural sector, AND basket-weaving industry. It is of the opinion of the nation’s most qualified minds that you remove this dim-witted miscreant from your cabinet at once!” The remainder of the letter is similar in content.
[effect] the nation is beholden to the whims of a cabal of nerds

[Option] “These idiots don't know what they’re talking about!” shouts your red-faced Minister of Science, “this must be the work of my arch-rival, that imbecile Albert Tedison or perhaps even the complete nincompoop Nikola Fresla. Either way, this dissent must be cracked down on! It's simple math, @@LEADER@@, any attack on me is an attack on the state, which is an attack on you! I know how much you hate being insulted, don't you @@LEADER@@? Have these fools sent to the work-camps where they belong!”
[effect] the sky is purple by law and anyone who disagrees vanishes under mysterious circumstances

[Option][if: Socialist] “All of this science is too complicated.” Plainly states your Minister of Labor, “I don’t think we need it. All we need is the glory of the working class and none of this brainy stuff. Why not throw all class-traitor academics into labor camps so we can return to a more simple way of life, forced back-breaking labor in the name of the state!”
[Effect] the torn lab coat has become a symbol of the working class

[Option][if: Capitalist] “All of this science is too complicated.” Plainly states your Minister of Finance, “I don’t think we need it. All we need is to ensure we grow by next quarter, none of this brainy stuff. Why not throw all these useless academics into labor camps so we can return to a more simple way of life, forced back-breaking labor in the name of profit!”
[Effect] the torn lab coat has become a symbol of the working class

[Title] Researcher Refuses to Recant Rebellious Raving

[Description] A group of scientists working in the state’s many laboratories recently penned a letter to you criticizing your Minister of Science, Dennis Lyenovo. The issue has sparked a debate in government about the role of academic dissent in government facilities.

[Validity] Only valid for nations with moderate scientific advancement and high authoritarianism, low freedom of speech.

[Option] “Dear @@LEADER@@,” begins the letter, “Mr. Lyenovo has demonstrated a complete disregard for scientific progress, his papers are simply rubbish! Everyone knows that the time-space quadrimensional manifold has 26 dimensions, not 28! His math is on the same level of a small child and, frankly, his papers are not very well-written either. It is of the opinion of the nation’s most qualified minds that you remove this dim-witted miscreant from your cabinet at once!” The remainder of the letter is similar in content.
[effect] the nation is beholden to the whims of a cabal of nerds

[Option] “These idiots don't know what they’re talking about!” shouts your red-faced Minister of Science, “this must be the work of my arch-rival, that imbecile Albert Tedison or perhaps even the complete nincompoop Nikola Fresla. Either way, this dissent must be cracked down on! Any criticism of me is an attack and an attack on me is an attack on the state, which is an attack on you! Don’t you hate being insulted, @@LEADER@@? Have these fools sent to the work-camps where they belong!”
[effect] the sky is purple by law and anyone who disagrees vanishes under mysterious circumstances

[Option][if: Socialist] “All of this science is too complicated.” Plainly states your Minister of Labor, “I don’t think we need it. All we need is the glory of the working class and none of this brainy stuff. Why not throw all class-traitor academics into labor camps so we can return to a more simple way of life, forced back-breaking labor in the name of the state!”
[Effect] the torn lab coat has become a symbol of the working class

[Option][if: Capitalist] “All of this science is too complicated.” Plainly states your Minister of Finance, “I don’t think we need it. All we need is to ensure we grow by next quarter, none of this brainy stuff. Why not throw all these useless academics into labor camps so we can return to a more simple way of life, forced back-breaking labor in the name of profit!”
[Effect] the torn lab coat has become a symbol of the working class


Inspired by this man. Decided to stray away from agricultural science in particular to keep the tone light, though it might detract some relevance. Though I'm still kinda torn on that decision overall.

Concerned this might be too similar to existing issues, but unsure of which ones specifically. Also unsure if options 2 and 3 feel too functionally identical. Would love feedback.
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Postby Daarwyrth » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:50 am

Any criticism of me is an attack and an attack on me is an attack on the state


I believe you should add a comma after the first "attack" in this sentence.

Don’t you hate being insulted, @@LEADER@@?


I like the feel this has, but it could be sharper. Consider changing it to "How does that make you feel, @@LEADER@@? Being attacked like that, huh?".

Overall, I think it sounds like an interesting topic and issue. Especially the inclusion of the socialist/capitalist take in the last option. I especially like the effect lines, they are witty, in my opinion!
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Postby Ko-oren » Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:52 am

I like the premise. The examples given here and there do a great job of bringing the issue to life.

That said, does a Minister of Science need to be an academic? Usually, they're simply politicians. Also, even if they are an academic, must they be a mathematician?

"Any criticism of me is an attack and an attack on me is an attack on the state, which is an attack on you!" could be phrased a bit more to the point ("Any criticism of me is an attack on the state, which is an attack on you!") or something to that effect.
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Postby Valrifell » Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:27 am

Suggestions were taken in, etc. etc. Here's draft 2.
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:58 am

[Description] A group of scientists working in the state’s many laboratories recently penned a letter to you criticizing your Minister of Science, Dennis Lyenovo. The issue has sparked a debate in government about the role of academic dissent in government facilities.


Hmm.

I suggest Show, Don't Tell.

As in instead of saying that scientists are criticising your Minister and that they wrote a letter, instead build the dilemma around a specific example. Instead of saying that a debate has been sparked, present that debate in the options.
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:06 pm

Here's my third draft. Enjoy.

Or don't, but please tell me why you didn't enjoy.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:06 am

If this is such an unscientific discovery as option 1 would suggest, then why would option 2 be taken seriously? I like CWA's suggestion of a debate around the subject. Also, what would be the harm in just trying it and seeing what would happen? This is such a cheap and easy experiment to conduct that I don't see wh uhh leader wouldn't try it for him/herself and assessing the results. I mean, it can't harm the plants, could it? And even if it could, wouldn't you have control plants? Is there any reason why leader can't comission the conducting of this experiment?
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Postby Australian rePublic » Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:08 am

I suppose that an extre drought would prevent nation from conducting this experiment, but beyond that...
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Postby Valrifell » Fri Aug 14, 2020 2:38 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:If this is such an unscientific discovery as option 1 would suggest, then why would option 2 be taken seriously? I like CWA's suggestion of a debate around the subject. Also, what would be the harm in just trying it and seeing what would happen? This is such a cheap and easy experiment to conduct that I don't see wh uhh leader wouldn't try it for him/herself and assessing the results. I mean, it can't harm the plants, could it? And even if it could, wouldn't you have control plants? Is there any reason why leader can't comission the conducting of this experiment?


I will continue to further refine the issue to work in the debate more naturally. This just happened to be the first absurd idea tangentially related to the inspiration that I could think of.

But, yes, they kind of do have to be very "out there" ideas, because Mr. Lysenko held on to antiquated pseudoscientific beliefs, including going against Darwinism in favor of Lamarckism. Though I do think you're right, the idea as-framed is kind of too easy to test. Hm. I don't want to make the choice too easy by making him too absurd, but I also want to clearly convey that his ideas are simply not workable. I may have to end up cloaking it in jargon.
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