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Mathuvan Union
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:24 am

Monsone wrote:
MATHUVAN UNION wrote:isn't the US navy strong enough to bring a carrier that has planes that'll do drops and return?


Those planes can still be tracked, intercepted, missile locked, and forced to turn back.

we hold a port. logically can't some merchant marines travel there?
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Postby Monsone » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:39 am

Mathuvan Union wrote:
Monsone wrote:
Those planes can still be tracked, intercepted, missile locked, and forced to turn back.

we hold a port. logically can't some merchant marines travel there?


Not without suspicion being cast on their reason of visit and most likely harassment by the Soviet authorities.
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Wed Aug 19, 2020 10:13 am

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Mathuvan Union wrote:we hold a port. logically can't some merchant marines travel there?


Not without suspicion being cast on their reason of visit and most likely harassment by the Soviet authorities.

There wouldn’t be Soviet authorities because it wouldn’t be Soviet land.
They are trading. Define ‘harassment’
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Postby Monsone » Wed Aug 19, 2020 11:33 am

Mathuvan Union wrote:
Monsone wrote:
Not without suspicion being cast on their reason of visit and most likely harassment by the Soviet authorities.

There wouldn’t be Soviet authorities because it wouldn’t be Soviet land.
They are trading. Define ‘harassment’


Let's see. The ships would be stopped and boarded by the Soviet Navy, and the ships would also be searched. Any ship smuggling weapons in would be forced to turn around.
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:24 pm

Monsone wrote:
Mathuvan Union wrote:There wouldn’t be Soviet authorities because it wouldn’t be Soviet land.
They are trading. Define ‘harassment’


Let's see. The ships would be stopped and boarded by the Soviet Navy, and the ships would also be searched. Any ship smuggling weapons in would be forced to turn around.

You do understand it’s not definitive they’re actually found in the first place, correct?
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Postby Monsone » Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:36 pm

Mathuvan Union wrote:
Monsone wrote:
Let's see. The ships would be stopped and boarded by the Soviet Navy, and the ships would also be searched. Any ship smuggling weapons in would be forced to turn around.

You do understand it’s not definitive they’re actually found in the first place, correct?


True. But that won't stop them from trying.
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:58 pm

Monsone wrote:
Mathuvan Union wrote:You do understand it’s not definitive they’re actually found in the first place, correct?


True. But that won't stop them from trying.

What if we sign a cease fire?
Like in Korea? I think it would bet better for civilisation.
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Postby Monsone » Wed Aug 19, 2020 4:01 pm

Mathuvan Union wrote:
Monsone wrote:
True. But that won't stop them from trying.

What if we sign a cease fire?
Like in Korea? I think it would bet better for civilisation.

Hmm. Perhaps....
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Wed Aug 19, 2020 4:57 pm

Monsone wrote:
Mathuvan Union wrote:What if we sign a cease fire?
Like in Korea? I think it would bet better for civilisation.

Hmm. Perhaps....

I’ll cede the North Prussian Republics former territory since we captured it.
And East Poland will become part of the USSR…
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Postby Monsone » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:13 pm

Mathuvan Union wrote:
Monsone wrote:Hmm. Perhaps....

I’ll cede the North Prussian Republics former territory since we captured it.
And East Poland will become part of the USSR…

Nope, Eastern Poland will remain the PR of Poland.
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:18 pm

Monsone wrote:
Mathuvan Union wrote:I’ll cede the North Prussian Republics former territory since we captured it.
And East Poland will become part of the USSR…

Nope, Eastern Poland will remain the PR of Poland.

Okay. Note with the land this is basically like Portugal and Spain.
And commie poland will touch commie Germany.
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Postby Monsone » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:19 pm

Mathuvan Union wrote:
Monsone wrote:Nope, Eastern Poland will remain the PR of Poland.

Okay. Note with the land this is basically like Portugal and Spain.
And commie poland will touch commie Germany.


Alright.
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:27 pm

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Mathuvan Union wrote:Okay. Note with the land this is basically like Portugal and Spain.
And commie poland will touch commie Germany.


Alright.

And the Soviets will be required to recognise west Poland.
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Postby Sarenium » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:57 pm

Mathuvan Union wrote:
Sarenium wrote:
Western Forces cannot get near this Polish Rebellion without naturally incurring Soviet Anger.

Theoretically if Canada collapses into Civil War, do you imagine the USA letting any country waltz in with support or would it enact a strict cordon of "this is my backyard"?

isn't the US navy strong enough to bring a carrier that has planes that'll do drops and return?


A carrier would need to cross the Danish Belts, then attempt to get past Sweden/GDR, even if you concoct a 'visiting Sweden' story, the Soviet Union could very logically enact a no-fly zone over Poland. That, and putting ships in the Baltic Sea would be a dangerous provocation which would incite Soviet retribution, submarines near Hawaii time.

I get that as the player for Poland you want a independence war that you win or have international backing in, but in our world Poland's independence was a civil movement that ballooned into independence thanks mostly to German reunification. The U.K. and France were very very hesitant to back Bush Sr. in helping the Solidarity Movement, and Bush Sr. only managed to do a peaceful visit to Warsaw where he did everything BUT aggravate the Soviets.
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:21 am

Sarenium wrote:
Mathuvan Union wrote:isn't the US navy strong enough to bring a carrier that has planes that'll do drops and return?


A carrier would need to cross the Danish Belts, then attempt to get past Sweden/GDR, even if you concoct a 'visiting Sweden' story, the Soviet Union could very logically enact a no-fly zone over Poland. That, and putting ships in the Baltic Sea would be a dangerous provocation which would incite Soviet retribution, submarines near Hawaii time.

I get that as the player for Poland you want a independence war that you win or have international backing in, but in our world Poland's independence was a civil movement that ballooned into independence thanks mostly to German reunification. The U.K. and France were very very hesitant to back Bush Sr. in helping the Solidarity Movement, and Bush Sr. only managed to do a peaceful visit to Warsaw where he did everything BUT aggravate the Soviets.

We’re organising a cease-fire so this is becoming Korea.
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:02 am

anyone here? hello?
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Postby Arvenia » Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:16 am

Mathuvan Union wrote:anyone here? hello?

I’m here. Is the IC still active?
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:20 am

Arvenia wrote:
Mathuvan Union wrote:anyone here? hello?

I’m here. Is the IC still active?

partially. Poland erupted into civil war, and we're organising a cease fire with a democratic west and commie east
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Postby The Felan Federation » Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:28 am

Mathuvan Union wrote:
Arvenia wrote:I’m here. Is the IC still active?

partially. Poland erupted into civil war, and we're organising a cease fire with a democratic west and commie east


I am still trying to understand how the FECK can you literally declare independence from the entire Warsaw Pact - when you have the entire INTACT Soviet Union on one side and a COMMUNIST German side on the other side. This is similar to the mess that Hungary tried to pull in 1956 and they were EASILY crushed by the Soviet Army simply driving tanks into their controlled lands.

Unless America is eager to start a nuclear war - they would not be eager to start a fight over some piece of Poland that is literally over the border from the USSR itself. The Baltic Sea would be nominally also under control over the Soviet Navy.

So please...enlighten us on how the feck can a small piece of Poland defeat the entire USSR when it has literally no natural borders, no natural allies, no natural reason for said allies to risk their necks and start a nuclear war with the Eastern Bloc.

The fact you keep on arguing with the GM, just shows how unintelligent your entire idea and goals are. You still haven't explained how the feck you have turned a former Communist Republic into a monarchy. Considering that Poland HAD NO KING pre or post-WW1. Combined by the fact, that in World War 2 the USSR did drive through Eastern Europe and take control of everything. I do recall, how your Prussian app was rejected because the USSR would NOT allow some pro-western state to be allowed to form AT ALL.

In this current state, I am just seeing you railroading your stuff through and offering no explanations on HOW you can literally beat the entire Soviet Armed Forces by yourself.
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Postby Monsone » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:20 pm

Okay, it's clear that this RP is pretty much dead. Most player aren't on or active most of the time, and at this point, it seems like this RP has reached the very end of it's life cycle. It was an interesting concept to test out and experiment with, however it seems to have failed. If any of the current participants wish to reboot the RP, you may. And feel free to add a post to the IC with the link to the reboot once it's ready. However, the threads of this RP may not be used since it is not going to be a continuating, but a reboot.

Thank you all for participating, and thank you all for your patience. If was fun while it lasted, but in the end it didn't end as planed. Once again, thank you all, and feel free to reboot the RP if you wish.
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:36 pm

Monsone wrote:Okay, it's clear that this RP is pretty much dead. Most player aren't on or active most of the time, and at this point, it seems like this RP has reached the very end of it's life cycle. It was an interesting concept to test out and experiment with, however it seems to have failed. If any of the current participants wish to reboot the RP, you may. And feel free to add a post to the IC with the link to the reboot once it's ready. However, the threads of this RP may not be used since it is not going to be a continuating, but a reboot.

Thank you all for participating, and thank you all for your patience. If was fun while it lasted, but in the end it didn't end as planed. Once again, thank you all, and feel free to reboot the RP if you wish.

Noooo I loved this...
NOOOOOO PLZ NOOOOOOO
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Update: apparently it’s bleating sheep.

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Postby Monsone » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:40 pm

Mathuvan Union wrote:
Monsone wrote:Okay, it's clear that this RP is pretty much dead. Most player aren't on or active most of the time, and at this point, it seems like this RP has reached the very end of it's life cycle. It was an interesting concept to test out and experiment with, however it seems to have failed. If any of the current participants wish to reboot the RP, you may. And feel free to add a post to the IC with the link to the reboot once it's ready. However, the threads of this RP may not be used since it is not going to be a continuating, but a reboot.

Thank you all for participating, and thank you all for your patience. If was fun while it lasted, but in the end it didn't end as planed. Once again, thank you all, and feel free to reboot the RP if you wish.

Noooo I loved this...
NOOOOOO PLZ NOOOOOOO

You can still reboot it.
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:13 pm

Monsone wrote:
Mathuvan Union wrote:Noooo I loved this...
NOOOOOO PLZ NOOOOOOO

You can still reboot it.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I LOKE THIS ONE I SO SAD D:
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Postby Arvenia » Sat Aug 22, 2020 3:21 am

Mathuvan Union wrote:
Monsone wrote:You can still reboot it.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I LOKE THIS ONE I SO SAD D:

I would make a new RP.
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:46 am

Arvenia wrote:
Mathuvan Union wrote:NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I LOKE THIS ONE I SO SAD D:

I would make a new RP.

Yes
If it has the same idea
I liked this one.
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