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Coronavirus Thread V: It Ain't Over 'Til It's Over (READ OP)

Postby Tinhampton » Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:19 am

>>> WHERE CAN I LEARN MORE?
>>> WHAT HAS THE VIRUS DONE? At the start of 2020, coronavirus was merely a novel pneumonia that wasn't SARS but was most certainly being carried about by a smattering of people from Wuhan. Fast forward half a year and we've got 2.5 13.9 million cases, over 90% of the world's student population weren't going to school at one stage, EURO 2020's become EURO 2021, Tokyo 2020's become Tokyo 2021 but it's still Tokyo 2020, the suspension of almost all sportsball ended up lasting for so long that the Ballon d'Or is off, the list of other events that have been cancelled are too numerous to reel off here, billions of people have been under lockdown at some stage - need I go on?

>>> WHAT CAN I DO HERE? This is a catch-all coronavirus thread. You may now begin to grumble about it, but Please note! that Max Himself has stated that the moderators will issue bans against those who peddle misinformation such as "claim[s that] the virus is a government conspiracy, or that people should ignore expert medical advice" - so please stay indoors if you can, wash your hands, keep at least two metres one metre one metre so as long as your business is COVID-Secure we're not sure how far but please cover your nose and mouth anyway errrrrrm some distance away from other people, and do continue to post here as you normally did (subject to the temporary edict, of course). OK, now you can start grumbling... or, for that matter, continue the ACSH-related squabbling and somewhat unequivocal all-hailing of the AstraZenica/Oxford vaccine from the fourth thread.

5th-9th April 2020 (246 voters): How scared are you of contracting coronavirus?
    I: Very scared: 24 (10%)
    II: Somewhat scared: 58 (24%)
    III: A bit scared: 73 (30%)
    IV: Not scared at all: 59 (24%)
    !: Been there, done that...: 8 (3%)
    Eh, whatever - I hope David Hasselhoff's safe: 24 (10%)

12th-17th April 2020 (263 voters): When do you think your area will lift all restrictions?
    I: Before the end of next month: 43 (16%)
    II: At some point in Summer 2020: 111 (42%)
    III: By the end of 2020: 58 (22%)
    IV: At some point in 2021: 24 (9%)
    !: Never - get used to the new normal...: 25 (10%)
    My state/country has not yet imposed any restrictions: 2 (<1%)

(note to self: must update with Thread IV poll but am tired!)
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Postby Gravlen » Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:28 am

Welcome to a new thread.

On this day there's 14.5 million cases worldwide, with 607 000 deaths, according to Johns Hopkins Covid-19 dashboard.
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Postby Gravlen » Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:31 am

Also, the president of the US has got bored with it and does not want to be distracted by it, so he probably won't be participating in this thread.
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:39 am

A coronavirus vaccine developed by the University of Oxford appears safe and triggers an immune response.

The vaccine - called ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 - is being developed at unprecedented speed.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53469839

ChAdOx1 nCoV-19

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Postby Andsed » Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:40 am

Remember when we people thought this would stay in China and not be a big deal? We were so naive back then.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:45 am

The New California Republic wrote:
A coronavirus vaccine developed by the University of Oxford appears safe and triggers an immune response.

The vaccine - called ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 - is being developed at unprecedented speed.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53469839

ChAdOx1 nCoV-19

Virgin Coronavirus vs. ChAd vaccine.

Gonna be a lot of people eager for a big Chad injection.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:45 am

The New California Republic wrote:
A coronavirus vaccine developed by the University of Oxford appears safe and triggers an immune response.

The vaccine - called ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 - is being developed at unprecedented speed.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53469839

ChAdOx1 nCoV-19

Virgin Coronavirus vs. ChAd vaccine.

excellent let's hope it works so this can be over and be regulated to the history books
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:48 am

San Lumen wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:
A coronavirus vaccine developed by the University of Oxford appears safe and triggers an immune response.

The vaccine - called ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 - is being developed at unprecedented speed.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53469839

ChAdOx1 nCoV-19

Virgin Coronavirus vs. ChAd vaccine.

excellent let's hope it works so this can be over and be regulated to the history books

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Postby Stellar Colonies » Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:51 am

The New California Republic wrote:
A coronavirus vaccine developed by the University of Oxford appears safe and triggers an immune response.

The vaccine - called ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 - is being developed at unprecedented speed.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53469839

ChAdOx1 nCoV-19

Virgin Coronavirus vs. ChAd vaccine.

If this vaccine is the best and most widely adopted, the memes will be...nice.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:53 am

Stellar Colonies wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:
A coronavirus vaccine developed by the University of Oxford appears safe and triggers an immune response.

The vaccine - called ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 - is being developed at unprecedented speed.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53469839

ChAdOx1 nCoV-19

Virgin Coronavirus vs. ChAd vaccine.

If this vaccine is the best and most widely adopted, the memes will be...nice.

Rampaging vax Chad.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:17 am

Well there’s some good news the phase 3 trial for 30,000 people will begin in the next few weeks in the US they’re actively recruiting people as we speak
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Postby Zurkerx » Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:18 am

Gravlen wrote:Welcome to a new thread.

On this day there's 14.5 million cases worldwide, with 607 000 deaths, according to Johns Hopkins Covid-19 dashboard.


We're going to hit a million it seems sometime in the fall. The good news is that a vaccine is coming along nicely. The bad news is that more testing needs to be done so we're not looking at one until the earliest, end of the year. From there, it'll take months to produce a sufficient amount needed to give everyone the vaccine. Of course, that's if you don't have stubborn anti-vaxxers refusing it...
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:19 am

Zurkerx wrote:
Gravlen wrote:Welcome to a new thread.

On this day there's 14.5 million cases worldwide, with 607 000 deaths, according to Johns Hopkins Covid-19 dashboard.


We're going to hit a million it seems sometime in the fall. The good news is that a vaccine is coming along nicely. The bad news is that more testing needs to be done so we're not looking at one until the earliest, end of the year. From there, it'll take months to produce a sufficient amount needed to give everyone the vaccine. Of course, that's if you don't have stubborn anti-vaxxers refusing it...


I have a feeling they are going to ramp up production as trials proceed.

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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:31 am

Zurkerx wrote:
Gravlen wrote:Welcome to a new thread.

On this day there's 14.5 million cases worldwide, with 607 000 deaths, according to Johns Hopkins Covid-19 dashboard.


We're going to hit a million it seems sometime in the fall. The good news is that a vaccine is coming along nicely. The bad news is that more testing needs to be done so we're not looking at one until the earliest, end of the year. From there, it'll take months to produce a sufficient amount needed to give everyone the vaccine. Of course, that's if you don't have stubborn anti-vaxxers refusing it...

The anti-vaxxers won’t have a choice. Biden has already hinted at making any vaccines mandatory once he’s president. Not to mention that nearly all business will be incentivized to require a vaccine before you shop.

My mother wants the vaccine as soon as it’s available because she hates all the masks, there’s going to be a lot of people who like would choose the vaccine over wearing the mask
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Postby Salandriagado » Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:33 am

Thermodolia wrote:Well there’s some good news the phase 3 trial for 30,000 people will begin in the next few weeks in the US they’re actively recruiting people as we speak


Just to be clear: I think that's the Moderna vaccine, not the ChAdOx one that was being discussed just above your post (while Cambridge/AZ have been talking about a US-based trial, I haven't heard any announcements about it beyond "we're going to do one").
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Thermodolia wrote:Well there’s some good news the phase 3 trial for 30,000 people will begin in the next few weeks in the US they’re actively recruiting people as we speak


Just to be clear: I think that's the Moderna vaccine, not the ChAdOx one that was being discussed just above your post (while Cambridge/AZ have been talking about a US-based trial, I haven't heard any announcements about it beyond "we're going to do one").

Yes that is for the Moderna vaccine. They plan to have the trial starting in August
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:39 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
We're going to hit a million it seems sometime in the fall. The good news is that a vaccine is coming along nicely. The bad news is that more testing needs to be done so we're not looking at one until the earliest, end of the year. From there, it'll take months to produce a sufficient amount needed to give everyone the vaccine. Of course, that's if you don't have stubborn anti-vaxxers refusing it...

The anti-vaxxers won’t have a choice. Biden has already hinted at making any vaccines mandatory once he’s president. Not to mention that nearly all business will be incentivized to require a vaccine before you shop.

My mother wants the vaccine as soon as it’s available because she hates all the masks, there’s going to be a lot of people who like would choose the vaccine over wearing the mask

How is a store going to do that?

Regardless I’m getting as soon as it’s available too as like her I loathe masks

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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:45 am

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:The anti-vaxxers won’t have a choice. Biden has already hinted at making any vaccines mandatory once he’s president. Not to mention that nearly all business will be incentivized to require a vaccine before you shop.

My mother wants the vaccine as soon as it’s available because she hates all the masks, there’s going to be a lot of people who like would choose the vaccine over wearing the mask

How is a store going to do that?

Regardless I’m getting as soon as it’s available too as like her I loathe masks

Do what Delta is doing for those who say that have a medical condition which prohibits them from wearing a mask which is to have a doctor confirm it.
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Postby Neutraligon » Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:47 am

Andsed wrote:Remember when we people thought this would stay in China and not be a big deal? We were so naive back then.

I believe there where warnings from government officials as far back as early January, if not late December, so no, I do not remember that.
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Andsed wrote:Remember when we people thought this would stay in China and not be a big deal? We were so naive back then.

I believe there where warnings from government officials as far back as early January, if not late December, so no, I do not remember that.

US intel gave Trump warnings as far back as November of 2019. We knew it was coming and Trump did nothing.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:49 am

Neutraligon wrote:
Andsed wrote:Remember when we people thought this would stay in China and not be a big deal? We were so naive back then.

I believe there where warnings from government officials as far back as early January, if not late December, so no, I do not remember that.

There's been warnings for years that we weren't prepared for a pandemic.
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Postby Neutraligon » Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:50 am

San Lumen wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
We're going to hit a million it seems sometime in the fall. The good news is that a vaccine is coming along nicely. The bad news is that more testing needs to be done so we're not looking at one until the earliest, end of the year. From there, it'll take months to produce a sufficient amount needed to give everyone the vaccine. Of course, that's if you don't have stubborn anti-vaxxers refusing it...


I have a feeling they are going to ramp up production as trials proceed.

Part of the process of regulation is ensuring that production on a wide scale is medically safe. I do not think you are are how even minor changes in the production method can change a drug as healthy and effective to something that might not be effective or healthy. Scaling up production is not a simple as you make it.
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