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Does fish which is caught in fresh water count as seafood?

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Australian rePublic is a raging lunatic. I don't care that it lives in fresh water, it's still seafood
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Australian rePublic is a raging lunatic, but he's 100% right. Food from freah water is not seafood
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Australian rePublic is a raging lunatic. Why else would he create this boring, pointless discussion that noone cares about?
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Does fish which is caught in fresh water count as seafood?

Postby Australian rePublic » Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:46 am

You're in Albury on the banks of the Murray River. You go to the lcoal pub and you sample the local produce. On the menu you see cod, locally caught. You're more than 400 kilometres from the ocean, and you see local fish on the menu. It's fresh water. It comes from the river which runs through the city. You decide to order it.

You're in Ontario, Canada on a snowy day, hundreds of kilometres from the sea. You're warming up in and dining in a restaurant overlooking Lake Michigan, one of the largest fresh water bodies anywhere on Earth. You order some local bass, which comes from the lake that you're staring at.

You're in an inland Greek town overlooking a fresh water river. You go fishing. You just caught tonight's dinner- that is- a giant rainbow trout

In any of those three scanarios, are you eating seafood?

In my opinion, no. How can be seafood if it comes from many kilometres away from the sea? Hundreds of kilomtres in the case of Canada and Albury. And in the case of the Greek fish, the trout would die if you tried to put it in the sea. How call a wild fish seafood if it can't survive in the sea? Isn't the very definition of "seafood" food from the sea? How can Murray cod be classified as seafood if it comes from hundreds of kilometres from the sea? How can Lake Michigan bass be considered seafood considering that you're nowhere near the sea? It's not seafood, and calling it seafood is a travesty!

What's your opinion, NSG?

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Does any of this really matter? No, not at all,not in the slightest. But just like the "is the hot dog a sandwhich" debate, just because it doesn't change the fact that it's fun to take a break from all the horrible shit happening in the world world all the time and poke holes in English, the world's lingua franca
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:01 am

Australian rePublic wrote:You're in Albury on the banks of the Murray River. You go to the lcoal pub and you sample the local produce. On the menu you see cod, locally caught. You're more than 400 kilometres from the ocean, and you see local fish on the menu. It's fresh water. It comes from the river which runs through the city. You decide to order it.

You're in Ontario, Canada on a snowy day, hundreds of kilometres from the sea. You're warming up in and dining in a restaurant overlooking Lake Michigan, one of the largest fresh water bodies anywhere on Earth. You order some local bass, which comes from the lake that you're staring at.

You're in an inland Greek town overlooking a fresh water river. You go fishing. You just caught tonight's dinner- that is- a giant rainbow trout

In any of those three scanarios, are you eating seafood?


Honestly it doesn't matter a damn. If you want to coin a new term "river-food" to distinguish those things from a river from those things from the sea, go right ahead. Be aware of farmed fish though, you'll have to distinguish that from river-food, good luck coming up with a word for sea-food farmed on land.

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Postby Australian rePublic » Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:18 am

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Australian rePublic wrote:You're in Albury on the banks of the Murray River. You go to the lcoal pub and you sample the local produce. On the menu you see cod, locally caught. You're more than 400 kilometres from the ocean, and you see local fish on the menu. It's fresh water. It comes from the river which runs through the city. You decide to order it.

You're in Ontario, Canada on a snowy day, hundreds of kilometres from the sea. You're warming up in and dining in a restaurant overlooking Lake Michigan, one of the largest fresh water bodies anywhere on Earth. You order some local bass, which comes from the lake that you're staring at.

You're in an inland Greek town overlooking a fresh water river. You go fishing. You just caught tonight's dinner- that is- a giant rainbow trout

In any of those three scanarios, are you eating seafood?


Honestly it doesn't matter a damn. If you want to coin a new term "river-food" to distinguish those things from a river from those things from the sea, go right ahead. Be aware of farmed fish though, you'll have to distinguish that from river-food, good luck coming up with a word for sea-food farmed on land.

Pedantry is the sport of small minds.

Considering that we had a thread discussing whether or not a hot dog is a sandwhich, how is this any different? Why shouldn't we wind back and have a discussion which pokes holes in English, the world's Lingua Franca? Does whether or not trout counts as seafood really matter in the grand scheme of the things? No, of coarse, not in the slightest. But it's still fun to have a discussion about it
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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:56 am

It's not seafood. Not that it matters much.

Perhaps a more pertinent question would be: are the vegetarians that eat fish and other seafood being silly or just trolling when they adamantly and forcefully say they are still vegetarian?
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:06 am

I can see an argument for regarding salmon, sea trout, and eels as sea food. Everything else no, always called them freshwater fish.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:12 am

As a cat, I call them all din-din. Though tasty tuna is the best.
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Postby Socialist States of Ludistan » Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:12 am

If it matters that much to you, then here’s the answer. I Googled it, don’t know why you just didn’t do that:

Seafood refers to all fresh and salt water fish, crustaceans and shellfish. Examples of common seafood include: Fish: Anchovy, bass, bluefish, carp, cat fish, char, cod, flounder, haddock, halibut, herring, orange roughy, mahi-mahi, sardines, salmon, trout and tuna.

Does that answer you question?
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:14 am

The New California Republic wrote:It's not seafood. Not that it matters much.

Perhaps a more pertinent question would be: are the vegetarians that eat fish and other seafood being silly or just trolling when they adamantly and forcefully say they are still vegetarian?

Correct their ignorance, They are pescatarian.
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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:17 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:It's not seafood. Not that it matters much.

Perhaps a more pertinent question would be: are the vegetarians that eat fish and other seafood being silly or just trolling when they adamantly and forcefully say they are still vegetarian?

Correct their ignorance, They are pescatarian.

They are indeed.
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Postby Dylar » Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:18 am

The New California Republic wrote:It's not seafood. Not that it matters much.

Perhaps a more pertinent question would be: are the vegetarians that eat fish and other seafood being silly or just trolling when they adamantly and forcefully say they are still vegetarian?

No, they're just Catholic :p
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Postby Nuroblav » Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:19 am

Well I had a look for some solid definitions for what 'seafood' and 'sea' are. From what I have gathered, it wouldn't count if it's not from salt water.
The New California Republic wrote:It's not seafood. Not that it matters much.

Perhaps a more pertinent question would be: are the vegetarians that eat fish and other seafood being silly or just trolling when they adamantly and forcefully say they are still vegetarian?

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:28 am

The New California Republic wrote:It's not seafood. Not that it matters much.

Perhaps a more pertinent question would be: are the vegetarians that eat fish and other seafood being silly or just trolling when they adamantly and forcefully say they are still vegetarian?


Maybe they're adamantly and forcefully telling you it's none of your fucking business?
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:30 am

Who the fuck cares? Fish is fish. And it’s good
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:30 am

Dylar wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:It's not seafood. Not that it matters much.

Perhaps a more pertinent question would be: are the vegetarians that eat fish and other seafood being silly or just trolling when they adamantly and forcefully say they are still vegetarian?

No, they're just Catholic :p


Or Jewish. You can excuse them if they think dried gefilte fish is not actually fish.
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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:35 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:It's not seafood. Not that it matters much.

Perhaps a more pertinent question would be: are the vegetarians that eat fish and other seafood being silly or just trolling when they adamantly and forcefully say they are still vegetarian?


Maybe they're adamantly and forcefully telling you it's none of your fucking business?

No that isn't what they are doing. ;)
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:43 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Maybe they're adamantly and forcefully telling you it's none of your fucking business?

No that isn't what they are doing. ;)


I don't like a militant vego either, but in my experience vegos are far more offended-against than offensive.

A vego will politely ask if there's meat in something, and some carnivore will have at them about why? Are they a real vegetarian? What about the rats and voles in a wheat field? Do they want to extinguish the species of Cow?
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Why wouldn't it be? What about Brackish water?
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La xinga wrote:Why wouldn't it be? What about Brackish water?


Oh yeah oysters! Mmm-mussels ... I think.
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Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Dylar wrote:No, they're just Catholic :p


Or Jewish. You can excuse them if they think dried gefilte fish is not actually fish.


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Ethel mermania wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Or Jewish. You can excuse them if they think dried gefilte fish is not actually fish.


A poem:

No fins, no flippers
the gefilte fish swims with
some difficulty

And if you stick a carrot inside........
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Postby Aclion » Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:04 am

No. If it doesn't come from the sea then it's just sparkling fish.

Dylar wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:It's not seafood. Not that it matters much.

Perhaps a more pertinent question would be: are the vegetarians that eat fish and other seafood being silly or just trolling when they adamantly and forcefully say they are still vegetarian?

No, they're just Catholic :p

You can test this hypothesis by asking them to eat beaver.
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If it's caught from the ocean, is it seafood?
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Culinary terms aren't really about technical details like the difference between a sea and a lake or the botanical definition of a fruit.
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Ethel mermania wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Or Jewish. You can excuse them if they think dried gefilte fish is not actually fish.


A poem:

No fins, no flippers
the gefilte fish swims with
some difficulty


Move the “with” to the third line and make it a haiku.
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