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[DRAFT] Driving Under the Illumination

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[DRAFT] Driving Under the Illumination

Postby Cretox State » Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:57 pm

An issue about litter on the side of highways poorly lit roads. Any suggestions regarding the title would be especially appreciated.

Draft 2: Reworked the premise.

Driving Under the Illumination

Validity: Must have cars.

Description
While traveling through the rainy @@DEMONYM@@ countryside at night on your way to visit some extended family, you notice your driver struggling to see the road ahead of you due to the absence of any form of road lighting.

Option 1
"Holy Violet!" shrieks your driver, almost swerving into a ditch after narrowly missing a deer that ran across the road. "Unlit roads are plain unsafe and near-impossible to drive on at night, especially in remote areas! People need to be able to drive without risking their lives. Reflective markers and poles on every road along with lighting equipment on the major ones should do the trick."

Effect: seizures are the leading cause of car accidents
Alternate: wearing sunglasses while driving at night is a must

Option 2
"Covering every road in the country with big lights and traffic markers? Are you nuts?" asks Finance Minister @@RANDOMNAME@@, crawling out from underneath your seat. "The rational choice would be to mandate that every car in @@NAME@@ be fitted with powerful headlights and advanced safety features. That way, people can drive safely without us having to fund infrastructure that won't even be needed most of the time."

Effect: next-generation cars are covered in glow-in-the-dark bubble wrap

Option 3
Suddenly, the car screeches to a halt as you see what looks like your Environmental Minister standing on the road ahead of you. She says, "You didn't need any fancy lights to see me! And what about all the light pollution? If anything, we should remove all lights from our nation's roads, so they stop being so disruptive to local wildlife and people living nearby. Also, can I have a lift?"

Effect: vehicle collision reports have never been darker

Option 4
"Now hold on there just a minute!" yells your Minister of Creative Solutions as he hops out of the trunk. "It seems to me the issue is people driving at night. So why don't we just ban people from driving at night? Problem solved!"

Effect: the future of roadside motels is looking bright


Driven to Panic

Validity: Must have cars.

Description
While driving across @@NAME@@ earlier this month, two Brancalandian diplomats noticed a huge amount of garbage littering the sides of nearly every highway they traveled on. Naturally, they decided to bring it up with you directly.

Option 1
"@@LEADER@@, this is a travesty!" exclaims one of the diplomats, comforting himself by chugging maple syrup straight from the bottle. "You simply must take action. We counted three @@ANIMALPLURAL@@ on one exit ramp just outside of @@CAPITAL@@! In Brancaland, we have a public service tasked with ensuring our nation's roads are spotless. We implore you to implement the same here. Do it for your people!"

Effect: driving tourists are trailed by government agents specializing in garbage disposal

Option 2a
Validity: Must not have digital currency.

"Bah! Do these Brancs think we're made of money?" scoffs Treasury Minister @@RANDOMNAME@@, pinching a coin so hard it's beginning to fuse with @@HIS@@ skin. "What we need are strict laws against highway littering, with crushing fines for anyone who disobeys. If we task existing traffic cops with enforcement, and use sanitation workers to clean up any big messes, we'll be making a tidy profit!"

Effect: throwing a bug out of a car is considered a heinous crime
Alternate: government employees are made to write reports on why they're overworked

Option 2b
Validity: Must have digital currency.

"Bah! Do these Brancs think we're made of money?" scoffs Treasury Minister @@RANDOMNAME@@, pinching a worthless coin so hard it's beginning to fuse with @@HIS@@ skin. "What we need are strict laws against highway littering, with crushing fines for anyone who disobeys. If we task existing traffic cops with enforcement, and use sanitation workers to clean up any big messes, we'll be making a tidy profit!"

Effect: throwing a bug out of a car is considered a heinous crime
Alternate: government employees are made to write reports on why they're overworked

Option 3
Validity: Must have market economy.

"Once again, business has the answer!" exclaims your Minister of Conflict Resolution, who's also on the board of the nation's biggest @@MAJORINDUSTRY@@ company. "If you let private corporations take up the responsibility of keeping certain areas of highway clean, it'll be cheaper and more efficient than doing it ourselves or passing some frankly unenforceable laws. I'm certain companies will jump at the chance to do it in exchange for some incentives, like plenty of advertising space on that section of road."

Effect: the nation's roads are littered with so much advertising it blots out the sun

Option 4
"Why don't we just make prisoners do it?" asks the head of the nation's largest prison, using your secretary as a footstool. "I mean, we have a huge manpower pool to draw from, and we don't have to pay them squat! Sure, some might call it slavery, but they won't be complaining once everyone sees how spotless our roads are and how little their taxes went up."

Effect: former mob bosses work in garbage disposal once more

Option 5
"Talk about solving a problem that doesn't exist," sighs your often-overlooked Minister of Wasted Management, whose title remains unfixed since his appointment. "Our nation's dumps are, well, a dump! They're overflowing with garbage, and all that space around highways? It's the perfect spot to leave our trash! If you boost my department's funding, we can convert every highway in @@NAME@@ into an easy place to dump waste. Sure, it might stink a bit, but isn't the convenience worth it?"

Effect: the nation's roads are the biggest thing stinking up its image
Alternate: people are flocking to cities to avoid driving at any cost
Last edited by Cretox State on Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:57 pm, edited 8 times in total.

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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:44 am

Why does 3b require a state-run economy?

IRL, one of the biggest employer of state-sanctioned slave labour penal workers is also the most capitalist nation on Earth...
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Postby Cretox State » Wed Jul 15, 2020 7:30 am

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:Why does 3b require a state-run economy?

IRL, one of the biggest employer of state-sanctioned slave labour penal workers is also the most capitalist nation on Earth...

It's because I felt that letting private companies do cleanup as an option is a no-brainer, and I wanted a version of that option for non-capitalists.

However, I could just as well change 3b to a full-fledged option 4.

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Postby Australian rePublic » Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:15 am

Option 1- Bracenlandians wouldn't think that @@NAME@@ is "our" country
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Postby Cretox State » Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:19 am

Australian rePublic wrote:Option 1- Bracenlandians wouldn't think that @@NAME@@ is "our" country

Of course not: "In Brancaland, we have a national service tasked with ensuring our nation's roads are spotless. We implore you to implement the same here." Is there an issue with the wording I'm not seeing?

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Postby Australian rePublic » Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:21 am

Cretox State wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:Option 1- Bracenlandians wouldn't think that @@NAME@@ is "our" country

Of course not: "In Brancaland, we have a national service tasked with ensuring our nation's roads are spotless. We implore you to implement the same here." Is there an issue with the wording I'm not seeing?

My bad. It's worded fine, save for the fact that "national service" means conscription
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Postby Cretox State » Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:26 am

Australian rePublic wrote:My bad. It's worded fine, save for the fact that "national service" means conscription

Really? Merriam-Webster defines a public service as "the business of supplying a commodity (such as electricity or gas) or service (such as transportation) to any or all members of a community."

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Postby Cretox State » Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:50 am

Alright, I made option 4 into a standalone option rather than an alternate version of option 3.

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Postby Australian rePublic » Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:56 pm

Cretox State wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:My bad. It's worded fine, save for the fact that "national service" means conscription

Really? Merriam-Webster defines a public service as "the business of supplying a commodity (such as electricity or gas) or service (such as transportation) to any or all members of a community."

National service or public service? They're two very different things
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Postby Cretox State » Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:37 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:National service or public service? They're two very different things

Changed.

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Postby Cretox State » Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:51 pm

Bumping this.

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Postby Westinor » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:28 pm

The draft feels like a mashup of several environmental issues (I'm thinking particularly #97 and #344. How does the fact that the litter is on the highways make it any different from being anywhere else?
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:07 am

344 is a pretty strong overlap, for sure. Yeah, that one might be a dealbreaker, unfortunately.
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Postby Cretox State » Mon Aug 03, 2020 12:49 pm

I largely swerved (hah) away from the initial premise.

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Postby Westinor » Mon Aug 03, 2020 12:58 pm

I'd suggest branching this off from Issue #462.1/3.
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Postby Cretox State » Mon Aug 03, 2020 1:01 pm

Westinor wrote:I'd suggest branching this off from Issue #462.1/3.

Isn't that one specifically about pedestrian street lights, not road lights?

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Postby Westinor » Mon Aug 03, 2020 2:03 pm

Cretox State wrote:
Westinor wrote:I'd suggest branching this off from Issue #462.1/3.

Isn't that one specifically about pedestrian street lights, not road lights?


Misread that, my bad
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Postby Australian rePublic » Mon Aug 03, 2020 2:59 pm

There's a simple solution to all this. These pole thingies (I forgot what they're called)

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They reflect headlights on major highways where street lights aren't justified. They exist on all major highways in Australia where there aren't street lights. Apparently, in other countries, those pole thingies are there to guide snow plows
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Postby Cretox State » Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:57 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:There's a simple solution to all this. These pole thingies (I forgot what they're called)



They reflect headlights on major highways where street lights aren't justified. They exist on all major highways in Australia where there aren't street lights. Apparently, in other countries, those pole thingies are there to guide snow plows

I tried to incorporate that into options 1 and 2.

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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:00 am

462 came to my mind to. Whether pedestrian or highway lights, I think the issue is broadly the same. Light pollution vs safety.

I'm not convinced it's different enough to be needed.
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