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by Seven Seas » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:47 am
Ardiveds wrote:OOC: Out of curiosity, what is stopping a nation from simply substituting the dynamite in dynamite fishing with some other explosive, like a grenade?
by Barfleur » Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:37 am
The World Assembly,
Aware of the fragility of aquatic species population in the face of modern fishing techniques;
Seeking to help aquatic species continue to thrive and provide a sustainable source of food;
Noticing with sadness the use of harmful fishing methods;
Resolved to protect aquatic species and their habitats from unnecessary harm;
Hereby:
1. Defines a "harmful fishing method" as any method of harvesting or catching aquatic species in a manner that significantly endangers any species or any marine habitat, and further defines—
a. "explosion fishing" as the stunning and/or killing of fish by means of an explosive device being detonated among a school, shoal, or habitat of fish, followed by the collecting of stunned and/or dead fish once they rise to the surface;
b. "bottom trawling" as the dragging of a trawl net across the seafloor from a fishing vessel; and
c. "drift net" as a net put out and left unattended to catch any fish that attempts to swim through it; and
2. Bans the use of explosion fishing, bottom trawling, drift nets, and all other harmful fishing methods in all member nations and the territorial waters thereof.
by Kenmoria » Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:22 pm
Seven Seas wrote:Ok, I made some edits. Out of interest, how do the WA voting blocks work? I am more well versed in regional politics, but I don't really know the goings on on the interregional stage.
by Seven Seas » Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:38 pm
Kenmoria wrote:“This looks like a good draft, and a good topic to cover. Your clause 2 has a few grammar mistakes, though: ‘register’ should be ‘registered’ and ‘nations’ should have an apostrophe. Although it is quite simple currently, that isn’t necessarily a bad thing.”Seven Seas wrote:Ok, I made some edits. Out of interest, how do the WA voting blocks work? I am more well versed in regional politics, but I don't really know the goings on on the interregional stage.
(OOC: When delegates vote in the WA, they have a number of votes equal to their endorsements plus one.)
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by Araraukar » Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:37 am
Seven Seas wrote:1. Defines "Harmful Fishing Methods" (for the purpose of this Act): as any method of harvesting or catching aquatic species in a manner that destroys habitat or significantly endangers non targeted species.
1. Defines, for the purposes of this resolution, "harmful fishing methods" as any methods for harvesting or capturing non-sapient members aquatic species in a manner that causes significant damage to the local habitat, or causes multiple deaths or fatal injuries to members of non-targeted species.
Especially the following:
a. Dynamite Fishing: being defined as the killing and/or stunning of fish by dynamite being lighted and thrown into a school, shoal, or habitat of the targeted fish and collecting the fish that float to the surface of the water. Noting that more fish sink to the bottom than float to the top and that all species and their habitat in the blasted area are destroyed.
b. Bottom Trawling: being defined as the dragging of a trawl net across the seafloor from a fishing vessel. Noting that this destroys habitat, and make fish populations rapidly decline.
c. Gill nets/Drift nets: being defined as nets put out by boats and left unattended to catch fish that try to swim through them. Noting that this catches all aquatic species that attempt to swim through it.
2. Bans the use ofthese "Harmful Fishing Methods"harmful fishing methods within the jurisdiction of any member nation, as well as for all vessels registeredunderin member nations.
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Seven Seas » Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:42 am
Araraukar wrote:Seven Seas wrote:1. Defines "Harmful Fishing Methods" (for the purpose of this Act): as any method of harvesting or catching aquatic species in a manner that destroys habitat or significantly endangers non targeted species.
OOC: This should likely be re-worded something like this:1. Defines, for the purposes of this resolution, "harmful fishing methods" as any methods for harvesting or capturing non-sapient members aquatic species in a manner that causes significant damage to the local habitat, or causes multiple deaths or fatal injuries to members of non-targeted species.
The above alteration catches everything you've specifically spelled out (which list, btw, bafflingly lacks longlines), prevents loopholes (such as swtching TNT for any other explosive), specifies you're talking about animals and plants and such, not people (the "non-sapient" bit), and because "destroys habitat" is loopholeable, I changed it to "significant damage" and added "local", so that nations can't claim that destroying a coral reef doesn't matter, because there are other reefs elsewhere. I also took out "endangers" because that sounds like something that'd be caught by the endangered species protection resolution, and to both occasions of "species", I added "members of" so that it doesn't sound like you're talking about the entire species.Especially the following:
a. Dynamite Fishing: being defined as the killing and/or stunning of fish by dynamite being lighted and thrown into a school, shoal, or habitat of the targeted fish and collecting the fish that float to the surface of the water. Noting that more fish sink to the bottom than float to the top and that all species and their habitat in the blasted area are destroyed.
b. Bottom Trawling: being defined as the dragging of a trawl net across the seafloor from a fishing vessel. Noting that this destroys habitat, and make fish populations rapidly decline.
c. Gill nets/Drift nets: being defined as nets put out by boats and left unattended to catch fish that try to swim through them. Noting that this catches all aquatic species that attempt to swim through it.
If you make the changes I suggested above, you don't need any of these as they'll all be included in the changed definition. Also, do you know how to use list code? The tab code makes the formatting weird.2. Bans the use ofthese "Harmful Fishing Methods"harmful fishing methods within the jurisdiction of any member nation, as well as for all vessels registeredunderin member nations.
Edits to make it sound more like law text rather than forum chat.
by Araraukar » Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:07 am
Seven Seas wrote:Long lining is hard to ban because it is used so often
and ways are being developed to make it more sustainable
And it can be argued that some aquatic creatures are indeed sapient.
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Ardiveds » Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:28 am
Araraukar wrote:Which is kinda my point. In RL some nations may think it's okay to hunt dolphins and whales for food, but in the WA that would count as murder. However, murder shouldn't be something invoked to protect non-targeted catches which for the largest part even in RL are going to be definitely non-sapient fish.
by Seven Seas » Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:26 am
by Keswickholt » Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:30 am
Seven Seas wrote:For clarification, the examples of dynamite fishing and the others are there to show mainly which methods are harmful and the ones being targeted. Other methods are also harmful, but are not specifically covered.
by Seven Seas » Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:43 am
Keswickholt wrote:Seven Seas wrote:For clarification, the examples of dynamite fishing and the others are there to show mainly which methods are harmful and the ones being targeted. Other methods are also harmful, but are not specifically covered.
I am pretty sure people have got Darwin Awards for that ridiculous way of fishing
by Minskiev » Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:58 am
by Seven Seas » Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:08 am
by Minskiev » Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:33 am
by Seven Seas » Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:58 am
Minskiev wrote:I’m not telling you to fish, I’m asking you if you fish. I’m also guiding those who want to fish but don’t know how.
by Minskiev » Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:02 pm
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