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NCFM Vice President Murdered

Postby Ostroeuropa » Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:12 am

https://ncfm.org/2020/07/news/uncategor ... -murdered/

Marc Angelucci, 1968-2020
Marc Etienne Angelucci, Vice-President and Board Member of the National Coalition for Men (NCFM) and longtime President and Founder of the Los Angeles Chapter of NCFM, was tragically murdered early in the morning of July 11, 2020, in front of his home in Crestline, California.
Marc Angelucci was truly beloved, with a personality that had a magnetism that many of his friends and colleagues found to be truly magical. Marc was an unbelievably generous man, living on a shoestring despite some personal health challenges so he could donate many millions of dollars of his time to mostly voluntary legal work on behalf of men’s rights and the genuine gender equality that is so badly needed in this country and this world.
The motive behind Marc’s murder is not yet determined though the San Bernardino County Sheriff deserves our gratefulness for diligently working to determine the facts, including driving to Marc’s family’s home in Los Angeles and to NCFM President Harry Crouch’s home near San Diego to investigate Marc’s death.
Marc compiled a truly legendary set of legal achievements, including recently winning an equal protection case against the Selective Service Administration overturning male-only draft registration. In 2008 Marc won a landmark appellate case against the State of California (Woods v. Horton) which held it is unconstitutional to exclude male victims of domestic violence from state funding for victim services. Marc also helped draft and enact legislation to stop paternity fraud, served on the California DCSS Paternity Committee, served on the Training Committee of the L.A. County Domestic Violence Council, and testified before the California Senate and Assembly Judiciary Committees. In a remarkable tribute to Marc’s skill at building bridges and remedying discrimination, the Southern Poverty Law Center, which some might think would be opposed to much of his work, invited him to be an Honoree on their Wall of Tolerance.
Marc graduated Phi Beta Kappa from the University of California at Berkeley in 1996 with a Bachelor’s Degree in Philosophy and received a law degree from UCLA School of Law in 2000, where he received several public interest awards and founded two student bar associations. While at UCLA, Marc also started a student chapter of NCFM.
Marc joined NCFM as a law student in 1997 after seeing his friend physically abused for years by his wife and then denied domestic violence services because he is male. In 2001 he formed the L.A. chapter of NCFM and served as its president until 2008, during which time NCFM-LA became an active chapter that organized rallies, filed lawsuits and received significant media attention.
Marc was extremely well-spoken and a skilled publicist for men’s issues, appearing on the Phil Donahue show, on Dr. Phil, and in countless other television, radio, and newspaper outlets. Marc published op-ed opinion pieces in the Los Angeles Times and numerous other press outlets, tirelessly speaking out for a fairer, kinder world.
Marc was a man full of joy and love, a true pleasure to know for all of us fortunate enough to be able to call him our colleague and/or friend. If Marc Etienne Angelucci didn’t exist, we would need to invent him, though honestly the man so far exceeded any dreams any of us could possibly have for an unbelievable combination of shining personal qualities and amazing professional achievements. While wildly successful on the legal front, he was a fabulously down-to-earth, loving man when not demolishing opponents in courtrooms to promote justice. Rest In peace, our dear fallen soldier. No finer man ever walked the planet.
We will post here more information about his murder and memorial services here when the information is known.
Here is a brief article about Marc’s death: http://local.nixle.com/alert/8111458/
RIP Mr. Angelucci. You are loved and leave a huge hole in our hearts.


Marc was one of the most active and prominent leaders of the MRM and we'll sorely miss him and his contributions. Left out of this article is that he donated almost all of his income to MRA organizations and lived modestly.

As the article notes the motive is currently unknown, but given the location (A park) I would wager it is unrelated to his activism and may well be just a mugging gone wrong. The man who overturned the sexist draft and forced the government to include male victims of domestic violence to even a small extent is dead, but I expect he'll go more quietly than other civil rights activists with similar levels of accomplishment. I figured i'd post it here so it can be discussed.

Here is Marc discussing mens rights;
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Postby Soiled fruit roll ups » Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:17 am

Damn man, every activist needs to be remembered.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:22 am

Soiled fruit roll ups wrote:Damn man, every activist needs to be remembered.


Marc was one of our best. Hopefully the juniors he trained over the years for NCFM can keep up his work.
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Postby James_xenoland » Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:03 am

RIP.. A true hero.


Also.... His major current case. The timing on this and scope/potential cost to the powers that be here... hmmm

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Postby Purpelia » Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:48 am

I am not surprised. He was a fighter for the rights of men. And men are in this day and age a hated class. I will be shocked if this is ever cleared up.
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Postby Greed and Death » Mon Jul 13, 2020 5:02 am

Wow This bad.

Who wants to needless speculate on the who, how, and why ?
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Jul 13, 2020 5:06 am

Purpelia wrote:And men are in this day and age a hated class.


Not really?
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Postby Greed and Death » Mon Jul 13, 2020 5:10 am

Vassenor wrote:
Purpelia wrote:And men are in this day and age a hated class.


Not really?

Hmm where were you the morning of July 11th 2020?
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While I disagree with his philosophical outlook, he will surely be in my prayers.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:29 am

Vassenor wrote:
Purpelia wrote:And men are in this day and age a hated class.


Not really?


Yeah, you're right, it's not like you need a high profile lawyer to uphold their civil rights and routinely overturn laws that discriminate their human rights.

Oh.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:33 am

Greed and Death wrote:Wow This bad.

Who wants to needless speculate on the who, how, and why ?


I don't want this thread to speculate on those questions. Mostly just to discuss his career and the gap left in MRM advocacy by it and so on, the other stuff relevant to the topic.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:55 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:I would wager it is unrelated to his activism and may well be just a mugging gone wrong.


Despite many people's hostilities towards MRAs, I agree that it should not be assumed that it was due to his politics without evidence.

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Postby Soiled fruit roll ups » Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:46 am

Vassenor wrote:
Purpelia wrote:And men are in this day and age a hated class.


Not really?


And that's why what he did was necessary.
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Postby Tolopel » Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:54 am

RIP

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Postby Gormwood » Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:55 am

Soiled fruit roll ups wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Not really?


And that's why what he did was necessary.

Oh right, we keep forgetting that women were the true rulers of civilization throughout human history and their chattel status was just an elaborate deception.
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Postby Fedel » Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:57 am

Gormwood wrote:
Soiled fruit roll ups wrote:
And that's why what he did was necessary.

Oh right, we keep forgetting that women were the true rulers of civilization throughout human history and their chattel status was just an elaborate deception.


You know, at one point in time, the entire human race was black so they were technically the "ruling class."

Just because something WAS does not mean it still IS my friend.
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Gormwood wrote:
Soiled fruit roll ups wrote:
And that's why what he did was necessary.

Oh right, we keep forgetting that women were the true rulers of civilization throughout human history and their chattel status was just an elaborate deception.


Men haven't stopped being chattel.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:18 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Soiled fruit roll ups wrote:
And that's why what he did was necessary.

Oh right, we keep forgetting that women were the true rulers of civilization throughout human history and their chattel status was just an elaborate deception.


Yeah, you've convinced me, let's bomb Berlin since nothings changed, and ramp up naval production to secure our interests from the French.
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Postby Gormwood » Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:18 pm

Soiled fruit roll ups wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Oh right, we keep forgetting that women were the true rulers of civilization throughout human history and their chattel status was just an elaborate deception.


Men haven't stopped being chattel.

And women are still the tyrannical overladies. Sure.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:19 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Soiled fruit roll ups wrote:
Men haven't stopped being chattel.

And women are still the tyrannical overladies. Sure.


Hmm.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_incredulity

"Arguments from incredulity can sometimes arise from inappropriate emotional involvement, the conflation of fantasy and reality, a lack of understanding, or an instinctive 'gut' reaction"

Hmm.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:21 pm

Soiled fruit roll ups wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Oh right, we keep forgetting that women were the true rulers of civilization throughout human history and their chattel status was just an elaborate deception.


Men haven't stopped being chattel.


They're a little less so thanks to the work of people like Marc and other MRAs. Stuff can be done to change it, it just takes work.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:55 pm

Greed and Death wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Not really?

Hmm where were you the morning of July 11th 2020?

Or October 2, 2011.
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Postby Gormwood » Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:02 pm

Soiled fruit roll ups wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Oh right, we keep forgetting that women were the true rulers of civilization throughout human history and their chattel status was just an elaborate deception.


Men haven't stopped being chattel.

Ignoring that practically all modern governments are male dominated plus or minus a few token women figureheads, ranting about men "still" being chattel is grounded in the dogwhistle implication that they're forced into that position by female domination.
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Postby Soiled fruit roll ups » Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:10 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Soiled fruit roll ups wrote:
Men haven't stopped being chattel.

Ignoring that practically all modern governments are male dominated plus or minus a few token women figureheads, ranting about men "still" being chattel is grounded in the dogwhistle implication that they're forced into that position by female domination.


Do you work to come up with this stuff?
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