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[DRAFT] Repeal Resolution #128 on Abortion

Postby Staypuftonia » Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:56 am

The World Assembly,

ASSERTING that it is the duty of all nations to protect their most innocent citizens,

ACCEPTING the controversy around banning abortion,

NEVERTHELESS convinced that it is inappropriate for innocent babies to be killed because they were conceived of rape or the reason that "it's not the right time", et cetera...;

NOTING that the resolution in question allows innocent people to be killed for being conceived of rape;

THEREFORE:

REQUIRES the World Assembly to repeal Resolution #128.
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Postby La xinga » Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:57 am

Support for the repeal, but repeals cannot make legislation.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:58 am

Repeals cannot legislate.
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Postby Staypuftonia » Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:58 am

Good point.

I've removed the legislation bit and I will put the legislation bit in a separate draft I will be making soon.

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Postby Ardiveds » Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:59 am

Edit: big mistake. Mistook this for a repeal of access to abortion
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Postby Morover » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:02 am

"Repealing GA 128 does not actually get rid of the requirement to legalize abortion."

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:03 am

Morover wrote:"Repealing GA 128 does not actually get rid of the requirement to legalize abortion."

"No, but it would be a necessary part of his agenda. I, for one, look forward to seeing this fail to make quorum. Or vote. I'm not picky about which."
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Postby Morover » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:05 am

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Morover wrote:"Repealing GA 128 does not actually get rid of the requirement to legalize abortion."

"No, but it would be a necessary part of his agenda. I, for one, look forward to seeing this fail to make quorum. Or vote. I'm not picky about which."

"Seems like a backwards way to accomplish that agenda, honestly."

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:06 am

Morover wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:"No, but it would be a necessary part of his agenda. I, for one, look forward to seeing this fail to make quorum. Or vote. I'm not picky about which."

"Seems like a backwards way to accomplish that agenda, honestly."

"Hush now, ambassador. Let the new guy work out the sheer magnitude of and odds against his task."

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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:15 am

"Fetuses are not people, and they certainly are not citizens. Beyond my office's support for protecting abortion services, this repeal argument receives my opposition for its nonsensical arguments."
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Postby Staypuftonia » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:19 am

"Babies, or "fetuses" as you call them, are certainly people and citizens; what are they, if not people, and what are they, if not citizens?"
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:23 am

Staypuftonia wrote:"Babies, or "fetuses" as you call them, are certainly people and citizens; what are they, if not people, and what are they, if not citizens?"

"Citizenship is conferred at birth in the C.D.S.P., which makes fetuses not citizens. This is an odd argument, ambassador."

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Postby Middle Barael » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:24 am

Staypuftonia wrote:"Babies, or "fetuses" as you call them, are certainly people and citizens; what are they, if not people, and what are they, if not citizens?"

Fetus and babies are two different things. A baby is a living, sapient, organism that can have simple emotions, and that usually starts in the 3rd trimester. A fetus is a child in the womb after the embryo stage and before the baby stage. And fetuses are NOT citizens in all nations, so please do not assume this. For example, in MB you become a citizen upon birth, not conception.
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Postby Staypuftonia » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:26 am

Middle Barael wrote:
Staypuftonia wrote:"Babies, or "fetuses" as you call them, are certainly people and citizens; what are they, if not people, and what are they, if not citizens?"

Fetus and babies are two different things. A baby is a living, sapient, organism that can have simple emotions, and that usually starts in the 3rd trimester. A fetus is a child in the womb after the embryo stage and before the baby stage. And fetuses are NOT citizens in all nations, so please do not assume this. For example, in MB you become a citizen upon birth, not conception.




You admit that it is a child in the womb. Therefore you admit that they are people.

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Postby Morover » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:27 am

Staypuftonia wrote:
Middle Barael wrote:Fetus and babies are two different things. A baby is a living, sapient, organism that can have simple emotions, and that usually starts in the 3rd trimester. A fetus is a child in the womb after the embryo stage and before the baby stage. And fetuses are NOT citizens in all nations, so please do not assume this. For example, in MB you become a citizen upon birth, not conception.




You admit that it is a child in the womb. Therefore you admit that they are people.

OOC: You're omitting an incredibly important part of their argument, lol

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Postby Draganisia » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:28 am

Staypuftonia wrote:"Babies, or "fetuses" as you call them, are certainly people and citizens; what are they, if not people, and what are they, if not citizens?"


"Exactly why we fully support this repeal and will even use force against those who try to enforce it until it is repealed."

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Postby Staypuftonia » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:32 am

Morover wrote:
Staypuftonia wrote:


You admit that it is a child in the womb. Therefore you admit that they are people.

OOC: You're omitting an incredibly important part of their argument, lol


What part am I missing about this?

I know I was missing the part about the citizens, but I said that because in Staypuftonia that's how it works.

I was not missing the part about the child in the womb.
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Postby Ardiveds » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:34 am

Draganisia wrote:
Staypuftonia wrote:"Babies, or "fetuses" as you call them, are certainly people and citizens; what are they, if not people, and what are they, if not citizens?"


"Exactly why we fully support this repeal and will even use force against those who try to enforce it until it is repealed."

"Ambassador, this resolution passed because a majority voted for it yet, you will voluntarily stay part of this assembly while also using force against any effort to enforce this assembly's laws? You seem to be actively seeking hostility with the WA."

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Postby Middle Barael » Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:07 pm

Staypuftonia wrote:
Morover wrote:

Yes, but not in all WA nations. Please don't make a law that completely disregards already existing laws in other nations. In MB, you are only a citizen upon birth, no later, no earlier.

And I misspoke, I meant the fetus is the pre-child in the womb (not yet a person)
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Postby Draganisia » Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:08 pm

OOC: I have to stay in the WA for founderless region security reasons.

IC: "There is a reason I am still here which you will never fully understand. Let's just say it's a deal that I made with someone else in a much higher position here than you or me.

I don't seek hostility against all of the WA but these "laws" are still a breach of National Sovereignty more than most others that have been passed so far. Or is National Sovereignty not something you care about anymore?"

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Draganisia wrote:OOC: I have to stay in the WA for founderless region security reasons.

IC: "There is a reason I am still here which you will never fully understand. Let's just say it's a deal that I made with someone else in a much higher position here than you or me.

I don't seek hostility against all of the WA but these "laws" are still a breach of National Sovereignty more than most others that have been passed so far. Or is National Sovereignty not something you care about anymore?"

OOC: Has any Conservative bill been passed in the GA ever?
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Postby Morover » Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:11 pm

Draganisia wrote:OOC: I have to stay in the WA for founderless region security reasons.

IC: "There is a reason I am still here which you will never fully understand. Let's just say it's a deal that I made with someone else in a much higher position here than you or me.

I don't seek hostility against all of the WA but these "laws" are still a breach of National Sovereignty more than most others that have been passed so far. Or is National Sovereignty not something you care about anymore?"

"You gave up national sovereignty when you entered the World Assembly"

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Draganisia wrote:OOC: I have to stay in the WA for founderless region security reasons.

IC: "There is a reason I am still here which you will never fully understand. Let's just say it's a deal that I made with someone else in a much higher position here than you or me.

I don't seek hostility against all of the WA but these "laws" are still a breach of National Sovereignty more than most others that have been passed so far. Or is National Sovereignty not something you care about anymore?"


"National sovereignty is not a justifiable rationale to challenge existing legislation. If that were the sole basis for your argument, you could easily just take your 'national sovereignty' into your own hands and depart the WA. If you are forced to participate in this august body for reasons you claim we cannot comprehend, then very apparently your own nation does not place much of a priority on its purported sovereignty."

OOC: Has any Conservative bill been passed in the GA ever?


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Postby Separatist Peoples » Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:30 pm

La xinga wrote:
Draganisia wrote:OOC: I have to stay in the WA for founderless region security reasons.

IC: "There is a reason I am still here which you will never fully understand. Let's just say it's a deal that I made with someone else in a much higher position here than you or me.

I don't seek hostility against all of the WA but these "laws" are still a breach of National Sovereignty more than most others that have been passed so far. Or is National Sovereignty not something you care about anymore?"

OOC: Has any Conservative bill been passed in the GA ever?


Ooc: yes. We protected your right to own nukes. Your welcome.

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:31 pm

Draganisia wrote:OOC: I have to stay in the WA for founderless region security reasons.

IC: "There is a reason I am still here which you will never fully understand. Let's just say it's a deal that I made with someone else in a much higher position here than you or me.

I don't seek hostility against all of the WA but these "laws" are still a breach of National Sovereignty more than most others that have been passed so far. Or is National Sovereignty not something you care about anymore?"

OOC: NatSov has been an intellectually defunct concept for some time

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